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LurfysMa
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      23rd May 2007
Suppose I have three contacts named "Joe":

Joe Brown
Joe Jones
Joe Smith

In Outlook 2000, I used to get "suggestions" when I clicked on Send if
an entry I typed in the To... field was ambiguous. In the example, it
would show me the three joe's and I could pick the one I wanted for
that email.

Just upgraded to Outlook 2007. Now when I type "joe" the first time,
it works like it did on Outlook 2000. Let's say I select Joe Jones.
Now the next time I type "joe" in the To... field, it automaticlaly
fills in "Joe Jones" and does not offer me the other choices. I can't
see how to get it to offer me all three choices.

What would be really helpful is for it to show all matching contacts,
but with the most common ones at the top.

How can I at least get it to show me all of the alternatives?

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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      23rd May 2007
After Outlook 2000, autocompletion replaced autoresolution as the first line
feature for automating recipient entry. The autocompletion cache has nothing
to do with your Contacts and uses a separate cache that becomes populated as
you send messages.
Decide which feature you prefer. You can disable either if you want to use
only one of these two features. Most people prefer autocompletion after they
populate their cache. You can always invoke autoresolution at any time by
clicking on "Check Names" or hitting CTRL-K.
If you don't understand, read this:
http://home.indy.rr.com/russval/autocompletion.htm
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"LurfysMa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Suppose I have three contacts named "Joe":
>
> Joe Brown
> Joe Jones
> Joe Smith
>
> In Outlook 2000, I used to get "suggestions" when I clicked on Send if
> an entry I typed in the To... field was ambiguous. In the example, it
> would show me the three joe's and I could pick the one I wanted for
> that email.
>
> Just upgraded to Outlook 2007. Now when I type "joe" the first time,
> it works like it did on Outlook 2000. Let's say I select Joe Jones.
> Now the next time I type "joe" in the To... field, it automaticlaly
> fills in "Joe Jones" and does not offer me the other choices. I can't
> see how to get it to offer me all three choices.
>
> What would be really helpful is for it to show all matching contacts,
> but with the most common ones at the top.
>
> How can I at least get it to show me all of the alternatives?
>
> --
> Using Outlook 2000 on Windows 2000



 
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LurfysMa
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      24th May 2007
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:56:55 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>After Outlook 2000, autocompletion replaced autoresolution as the first line
>feature for automating recipient entry. The autocompletion cache has nothing
>to do with your Contacts and uses a separate cache that becomes populated as
>you send messages.
>Decide which feature you prefer. You can disable either if you want to use
>only one of these two features. Most people prefer autocompletion after they
>populate their cache. You can always invoke autoresolution at any time by
>clicking on "Check Names" or hitting CTRL-K.
>If you don't understand, read this:
>http://home.indy.rr.com/russval/autocompletion.htm


Very helpful tutorial. Thanks

What I would really like, and apparently is not available, is an
option in the autoresolution feature to use the contact list either in
addition to or instead of the separate cache. It is very annoying that
I type "joe" and I am offered only one choice when I know there is
another "joe' in my contact list. I hope the genius who devised this
ill-designed feature didn't get a huge award.

PS: There is a typo in the first autoresolution paragraph: CTRK+K.

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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      24th May 2007
The autoresolution feature has not changed. What makes you think it has? If
you invoke autoresolution, all valid matches in your Contacts Folder will be
displayed.
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"LurfysMa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:56:55 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>After Outlook 2000, autocompletion replaced autoresolution as the first
>>line
>>feature for automating recipient entry. The autocompletion cache has
>>nothing
>>to do with your Contacts and uses a separate cache that becomes populated
>>as
>>you send messages.
>>Decide which feature you prefer. You can disable either if you want to use
>>only one of these two features. Most people prefer autocompletion after
>>they
>>populate their cache. You can always invoke autoresolution at any time by
>>clicking on "Check Names" or hitting CTRL-K.
>>If you don't understand, read this:
>>http://home.indy.rr.com/russval/autocompletion.htm

>
> Very helpful tutorial. Thanks
>
> What I would really like, and apparently is not available, is an
> option in the autoresolution feature to use the contact list either in
> addition to or instead of the separate cache. It is very annoying that
> I type "joe" and I am offered only one choice when I know there is
> another "joe' in my contact list. I hope the genius who devised this
> ill-designed feature didn't get a huge award.
>
> PS: There is a typo in the first autoresolution paragraph: CTRK+K.
>
> --
> Using Outlook 2000 on Windows 2000



 
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LurfysMa
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      25th May 2007
On Thu, 24 May 2007 05:12:58 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
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>The autoresolution feature has not changed. What makes you think it has? If
>you invoke autoresolution, all valid matches in your Contacts Folder will be
>displayed.


I didn't say it had changed -- except that it gets preempted by the
autocompetion feature with is very badly designed.

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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      25th May 2007
As I said, you can turn off autocompletion and just use autoresolution.
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"LurfysMa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 May 2007 05:12:58 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>The autoresolution feature has not changed. What makes you think it has?
>>If
>>you invoke autoresolution, all valid matches in your Contacts Folder will
>>be
>>displayed.

>
> I didn't say it had changed -- except that it gets preempted by the
> autocompetion feature with is very badly designed.
>
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LurfysMa
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      30th May 2007
On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:01:42 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
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>As I said, you can turn off autocompletion and just use autoresolution.


And as I said, that's a poor solution for a crappy design.

Autocompletion is needed. It should have been in the product from day
1. Now that they have added it, they botched the design. As a result,
my choices are use it badly or not use it at all. Worse, it has
crippled the autoresolution feature, which was working pretty well
except for the insane feature of including fax numbers in teh choices
for email recipients.

In case any of the geniuses at M$FT are listening, here's some free
product design:

Implement autocompletion with three options: Contacts, Cache, Both:

1. Contacts: Use the contents of the Contacts folder.

2. Cache: Use the Cache (current implementation).

3. Both: Use both the Contacts and the Cache. Show the cache entries
first and identify with

Give the lists in 1 and 2 a unique look so that when they are merged,
it is clear which is which.

Provide an optional pop-up to add any contacts to the cache.

I'd bet that no one would choose option 2, the current implementation.
So, I'd also bet that that would be the installation default.

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]
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      30th May 2007
You are in a very small minority. Almost no one has any problems with the
way autocompletion and autoresolution work. I would not be expecting any
changes in this area.
Most users simply invoke autoresolution to select an entry that is not yet
in their autocompletion cache. From then on, that entry is in their cache.
Once the cache is robust, it obviates the need for autoresolution.
For those who are impatient to build their cache, they can simply populate
their cache all at once by resolving their entire address book.
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"LurfysMa" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 May 2007 21:01:42 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>As I said, you can turn off autocompletion and just use autoresolution.

>
> And as I said, that's a poor solution for a crappy design.
>
> Autocompletion is needed. It should have been in the product from day
> 1. Now that they have added it, they botched the design. As a result,
> my choices are use it badly or not use it at all. Worse, it has
> crippled the autoresolution feature, which was working pretty well
> except for the insane feature of including fax numbers in teh choices
> for email recipients.
>
> In case any of the geniuses at M$FT are listening, here's some free
> product design:
>
> Implement autocompletion with three options: Contacts, Cache, Both:
>
> 1. Contacts: Use the contents of the Contacts folder.
>
> 2. Cache: Use the Cache (current implementation).
>
> 3. Both: Use both the Contacts and the Cache. Show the cache entries
> first and identify with
>
> Give the lists in 1 and 2 a unique look so that when they are merged,
> it is clear which is which.
>
> Provide an optional pop-up to add any contacts to the cache.
>
> I'd bet that no one would choose option 2, the current implementation.
> So, I'd also bet that that would be the installation default.
>
> --
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LurfysMa
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      31st May 2007
On Wed, 30 May 2007 17:26:28 -0400, "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]"
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>You are in a very small minority. Almost no one has any problems with the
>way autocompletion and autoresolution work.


You mean you don't agree with me. ;-)

>I would not be expecting any changes in this area.


Nor do I. Not sure that says much, though.

>Most users simply invoke autoresolution to select an entry that is not yet
>in their autocompletion cache.


Oh, yeah? How do they do that? How do they get autocompletion to leave
a string alone that matches something already in the cache?

Suppose I have 3 Russ's. The first time I type "russ", autocompletion
will leave it for autoresolution to complete. Say I choose Russ1. The
next time, it will give me Russ1 and not allow me to choose any other
Russ. It will NOT leave "russ" in the field for autoresolution to
handle. Autocompletion interferes with autoresolution.

>From then on, that entry is in their cache.
>Once the cache is robust, it obviates the need for autoresolution.
>For those who are impatient to build their cache, they can simply populate
>their cache all at once by resolving their entire address book.


How can I "populate" the cache with my entire address book?

But even then, if I add a 4th Russ, I will have the same problem
described above. Autocompletion will force me to choose one of the
first three or go to the address book manually.

Or are you suggesting that I should repopulate the cache every time I
add a contact?

Bottom line, this is a poor design.

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F.H. Muffman
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      31st May 2007
LurfysMa wrote:
>> Most users simply invoke autoresolution to select an entry that is
>> not yet in their autocompletion cache.

>
> Oh, yeah? How do they do that? How do they get autocompletion to leave
> a string alone that matches something already in the cache?


By not hitting Enter or Tab.

Hit control-k and pick the right person...
or hit ; and continue adding names...
or continue typing until you have unique information to match the person you
want to mail.

There, three ways to get autocomplete to leave a string alone.

> Suppose I have 3 Russ's. The first time I type "russ", autocompletion
> will leave it for autoresolution to complete. Say I choose Russ1. The
> next time, it will give me Russ1 and not allow me to choose any other
> Russ. It will NOT leave "russ" in the field for autoresolution to
> handle. Autocompletion interferes with autoresolution.


It can, sort of, but now you know how to make it work for you.

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