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RedFox8391
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      14th Mar 2007
Malke,
I guess I was a bit premature in reporting that your link to Ramesh
solved the problem (I don't think the solution is the *problem*), I now
get a error message stating that it can not work that way, make sure
that user/password is correct, etc.
I used the *control userpassword2* and then tried the *tweakui* and both
get the same error, is there a place that I can go to verify my
password?? I know that I'm using it correctly but I would like to look
it up just to make sure. As you know, I'm described in user accounts as
the Adm/user (my name), I tried one and then the other with same
results, any ideas??

Thanks

RedFox
 
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      14th Mar 2007
Redfox,

Are you the person who wants to boot straight into Windows rather than
typing a username/password?

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      14th Mar 2007
Newbie Coder wrote:
> Redfox,
>
> Are you the person who wants to boot straight into Windows rather than
> typing a username/password?
>

Yes

TIA

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      14th Mar 2007
RedFox8391 wrote:
> Malke,
> I guess I was a bit premature in reporting that your link to Ramesh
> solved the problem (I don't think the solution is the *problem*), I now
> get a error message stating that it can not work that way, make sure
> that user/password is correct, etc.
> I used the *control userpassword2* and then tried the *tweakui* and both
> get the same error, is there a place that I can go to verify my
> password?? I know that I'm using it correctly but I would like to look
> it up just to make sure. As you know, I'm described in user accounts as
> the Adm/user (my name), I tried one and then the other with same
> results, any ideas??


It would have been better to keep your post in the same thread. IIRC,
you wanted to boot directly to the Desktop without entering your
password. Is this correct?

If you are getting an error that the password or username is incorrect,
then the password or username is incorrect. When you set up the
automatic logon, did you use the correct username? Go to the User
Accounts Applet and look at the user name(s). Then go to C:\Documents
and Settings and see what users are listed. Do they match the names in
User Accounts? Very often people will get a machine from HP or Dell with
the default user set up as "Owner" or the like. If you just renamed
"Owner" to "RedFox", then your real user account is "Owner" and not
"RedFox". See where I'm going with this?

So that's your first step - check that you have the correct username
entered in the Automatic Logon.

If the usernames match, then go to the User Accounts applet and change
your password. Write it down. Then go back to the Automatic Logon either
by using TweakUI or control userpasswords2 and put in the new password.


Malke
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      14th Mar 2007
Hello Again RedFox:

Click START
Click RUN
Type 'regedit' (without quotes) & press OK
Navigate to:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\WindowsNT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

Right-click in the right pane & create a new string value 'DefaultUserName'
(without quotes)
Double-click the above key & enter the username you login to Windows with


Right-click in the right pane & create a new string value 'DefaultPassword'
(without quotes)
Double-click the above key & enter the password you login to Windows with

If you logon to a domain then right-click in the right pane & create a new
string value 'DefaultDomainName'
Double-click the above key & enter the domain you logon to

Right-click in the right pane & create a new string value 'AutoAdminLogon'
(without quotes)
Double-click the above key & enter '1' (one (without quotes))

Not sure if you are using 2000 or XP. If Windows 2000 then do this step too:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Right-click in the right pane & create a new string value
'ForceAutoLogon' (without quotes)
Double-click the above key & enter '1' (one (without quotes))

Lastly in the registry:
--------------------

Navigate to:
------------

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\policies\system

Check in the right pane that 'DontDisplayLastUserName' is set to '0' (zero
(without quotes)). If not, double-click it & change to '0' (zero (without
quotes))

Exit the registry editor

The next time you restart Windows you won't be asked for a
username/password.

Note:
-----

1) You are leaving a plain text password in the registry which can be a
security risk
2) Holding down SHIFT whilst booting will bypass it


I hope this helps,

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      14th Mar 2007
Newbie Coder wrote:
> Hello Again RedFox:


(snip long post filled with registry work)

Before you take a poster on a journey into the registry, you should make
sure that 1) it is really necessary; 2) that there is not a safer way
for an end user to make desired changes.

If you'll read my reply to the poster, you will see that there is
probably a simple explanation for why his attempts to autologon failed.
Until the poster answers that, it is irresponsible to plunge him into
registry editing.


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      14th Mar 2007
Malke wrote:
> RedFox8391 wrote:
>> Malke,
>> I guess I was a bit premature in reporting that your link to Ramesh
>> solved the problem (I don't think the solution is the *problem*), I
>> now get a error message stating that it can not work that way, make
>> sure that user/password is correct, etc.
>> I used the *control userpassword2* and then tried the *tweakui* and
>> both get the same error, is there a place that I can go to verify my
>> password?? I know that I'm using it correctly but I would like to look
>> it up just to make sure. As you know, I'm described in user accounts
>> as the Adm/user (my name), I tried one and then the other with same
>> results, any ideas??

>
> It would have been better to keep your post in the same thread.


Sorry about that.

IIRC,
> you wanted to boot directly to the Desktop without entering your
> password. Is this correct?


Again, you are correct.

>
> If you are getting an error that the password or username is incorrect,
> then the password or username is incorrect. When you set up the
> automatic logon, did you use the correct username? Go to the User
> Accounts Applet and look at the user name(s). Then go to C:\Documents
> and Settings and see what users are listed. Do they match the names in
> User Accounts? Very often people will get a machine from HP or Dell with
> the default user set up as "Owner" or the like. If you just renamed
> "Owner" to "RedFox", then your real user account is "Owner" and not
> "RedFox". See where I'm going with this?
>

Checked names on both User accounts & D&S
User accounts=My name (RedFox), plus Guest (OFF)
D&S=2 Names>>RedFox (Computer Administrator) & Administrator (Adm)

> So that's your first step - check that you have the correct username
> entered in the Automatic Logon.


Both names in Logon, Administrator on *top* and RedFox (administrator) next.

>
> If the usernames match, then go to the User Accounts applet and change
> your password. Write it down. Then go back to the Automatic Logon either
> by using TweakUI or control userpasswords2 and put in the new password.
>
>
> Malke


Should I delete Administrator account in *Auto Logon*? or RedFox's??

I do believe that I'm correct on the password (10
alphanumerics//letters&numbers) but would change if you think it necessary?

When I tried to change autologon on the ADM account it took to a
different desktop setup, did the same again to RedFox and got the right
desktop back.

Thanks

RedFox
 
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Malke
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      14th Mar 2007
RedFox8391 wrote:

>> If you are getting an error that the password or username is
>> incorrect, then the password or username is incorrect. When you set up
>> the automatic logon, did you use the correct username? Go to the User
>> Accounts Applet and look at the user name(s). Then go to C:\Documents
>> and Settings and see what users are listed. Do they match the names in
>> User Accounts? Very often people will get a machine from HP or Dell
>> with the default user set up as "Owner" or the like. If you just
>> renamed "Owner" to "RedFox", then your real user account is "Owner"
>> and not "RedFox". See where I'm going with this?
>>

> Checked names on both User accounts & D&S
> User accounts=My name (RedFox), plus Guest (OFF)
> D&S=2 Names>>RedFox (Computer Administrator) & Administrator (Adm)
>
>> So that's your first step - check that you have the correct username
>> entered in the Automatic Logon.

>
> Both names in Logon, Administrator on *top* and RedFox (administrator)
> next.
>
>>
>> If the usernames match, then go to the User Accounts applet and change
>> your password. Write it down. Then go back to the Automatic Logon
>> either by using TweakUI or control userpasswords2 and put in the new
>> password.
>>
>>
>> Malke

>
> Should I delete Administrator account in *Auto Logon*? or RedFox's??
>
> I do believe that I'm correct on the password (10
> alphanumerics//letters&numbers) but would change if you think it necessary?
>
> When I tried to change autologon on the ADM account it took to a
> different desktop setup, did the same again to RedFox and got the right
> desktop back.


If you had "Administrator" in the autologon box, then that's why it
isn't working for you! You want to automatically logon to the RedFox
account. Also, you can't automatically log on to the built-in
Administrator account in XP Home.

I'm finding your explanation a little tortuous. Let's make this simple, OK?

1. Go to the User Accounts applet and change RedFox's password to
something you like and write it down.

2. Start TweakUI and go to the Autologon part. Put RedFox in for the
username and the new password.

You should now automatically be taken to the RedFox desktop when you
restart the machine.


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      14th Mar 2007
Malke wrote:
> RedFox8391 wrote:
>
>>> If you are getting an error that the password or username is
>>> incorrect, then the password or username is incorrect. When you set
>>> up the automatic logon, did you use the correct username? Go to the
>>> User Accounts Applet and look at the user name(s). Then go to
>>> C:\Documents and Settings and see what users are listed. Do they
>>> match the names in User Accounts? Very often people will get a
>>> machine from HP or Dell with the default user set up as "Owner" or
>>> the like. If you just renamed "Owner" to "RedFox", then your real
>>> user account is "Owner" and not "RedFox". See where I'm going with this?
>>>

>> Checked names on both User accounts & D&S
>> User accounts=My name (RedFox), plus Guest (OFF)
>> D&S=2 Names>>RedFox (Computer Administrator) & Administrator (Adm)
>>
>>> So that's your first step - check that you have the correct username
>>> entered in the Automatic Logon.

>>
>> Both names in Logon, Administrator on *top* and RedFox (administrator)
>> next.
>>
>>>
>>> If the usernames match, then go to the User Accounts applet and
>>> change your password. Write it down. Then go back to the Automatic
>>> Logon either by using TweakUI or control userpasswords2 and put in
>>> the new password.
>>>
>>>
>>> Malke

>>
>> Should I delete Administrator account in *Auto Logon*? or RedFox's??
>>
>> I do believe that I'm correct on the password (10
>> alphanumerics//letters&numbers) but would change if you think it
>> necessary?
>>
>> When I tried to change autologon on the ADM account it took to a
>> different desktop setup, did the same again to RedFox and got the
>> right desktop back.

>
> If you had "Administrator" in the autologon box, then that's why it
> isn't working for you! You want to automatically logon to the RedFox
> account. Also, you can't automatically log on to the built-in
> Administrator account in XP Home.
>
> I'm finding your explanation a little tortuous. Let's make this simple, OK?
>
> 1. Go to the User Accounts applet and change RedFox's password to
> something you like and write it down.
>
> 2. Start TweakUI and go to the Autologon part. Put RedFox in for the
> username and the new password.
>
> You should now automatically be taken to the RedFox desktop when you
> restart the machine.
>
>
> Malke



About my ways of writing and answering, you are not the only one to find
it unorthodox, I'm European and 70 years old, and I think I should write
with as much detail as possible, hence I create more problems for people
that are trying to help me, but enough of that.

Did things your way and **this time**, I'm happy to say that it worked,
tried it 2 times and no problems.

Thanks very much for your patience in helping this old shmuck,

RedFox


PS: I would like to thank Newbie Coder for his help also, I will make
copies of these emails and keep them.
 
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      15th Mar 2007
RedFox8391 wrote:

> About my ways of writing and answering, you are not the only one to find
> it unorthodox, I'm European and 70 years old, and I think I should write
> with as much detail as possible, hence I create more problems for people
> that are trying to help me, but enough of that.
>
> Did things your way and **this time**, I'm happy to say that it worked,
> tried it 2 times and no problems.
>
> Thanks very much for your patience in helping this old shmuck,
>
> RedFox


Please don't think I was complaining about your writing style; I just
wanted to make sure I was completely understanding you. And you're not
allowed to call yourself names. Just because you don't know this
computer stuff doesn't mean you aren't smart.

I'm very happy that I was able to help you and that things are working
the way you want now. Thanks for taking the time to let me know.


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