I'll be grateful for any information about what the ATI
X200 integrated video is like, as incorporated in the MSI
RS480M2-IL ? I don't expect it to be high-end, but
which popular GPU will be its approximate equivalent ?
Is it better than the nForce 2 IGP ? If so, by how much ?

I have not been able to find a proper review, and my
internet connection has been abominably slow these past
few days (download speed around 0.1 KB/s).

"Zotin Khuma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I'll be grateful for any information about what the ATI
> X200 integrated video is like, as incorporated in the MSI
> RS480M2-IL ? I don't expect it to be high-end, but
> which popular GPU will be its approximate equivalent ?
> Is it better than the nForce 2 IGP ? If so, by how much ?
>
> I have not been able to find a proper review, and my
> internet connection has been abominably slow these past
> few days (download speed around 0.1 KB/s).
>
I've been advised that its in between the performance which could be
expected from a Radeon X300 and an X300SE. Its basically an X300 which
shares system memory. Its fully DirectX 9 compliant and the info on it can
be found here: http://www.ati.com/products/radeonxp...eries/amd.html

I'm considering exactly that same board for when I build a Media Centre PC
but I wouldn't want to use it for serious gaming.

Paul

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:04:44 +0530, "Zotin Khuma"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I'll be grateful for any information about what the ATI
>X200 integrated video is like, as incorporated in the MSI
>RS480M2-IL ? I don't expect it to be high-end, but
>which popular GPU will be its approximate equivalent ?
>Is it better than the nForce 2 IGP ? If so, by how much ?
>
>I have not been able to find a proper review, and my
>internet connection has been abominably slow these past
>few days (download speed around 0.1 KB/s).
>

Doesn't really matter much does it?
I mean, neither is fast enough for current gaming but both
(any modern DDR based integrated video for that matter) is
plenty fast enough for typical 2D PC uses including DVDs,
multimedia.

"kony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:04:44 +0530, "Zotin Khuma"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >I'll be grateful for any information about what the ATI
> >X200 integrated video is like, as incorporated in the MSI
> >RS480M2-IL ? I don't expect it to be high-end, but
> >which popular GPU will be its approximate equivalent ?
> >Is it better than the nForce 2 IGP ? If so, by how much ?
> >
> >I have not been able to find a proper review, and my
> >internet connection has been abominably slow these past
> >few days (download speed around 0.1 KB/s).
> >
>
> Doesn't really matter much does it?
> I mean, neither is fast enough for current gaming but both
> (any modern DDR based integrated video for that matter) is
> plenty fast enough for typical 2D PC uses including DVDs,
> multimedia.
>
Thanks for the quick response, Paul and Kony. And kony,
I always respect your opinions, but the fact is that a lot of
people are still quite content with nForce 2 gfx because,
although they know that even a lowly FX5200 is better than
an nForce 2 IGP, they simply cannot afford anything better.
Many of these people actually gush over how well the
nForce 2 IGP lets them play Doom 3, AoE or NFSU - at
low settings of course.

The situation is a bit different with the X200 because it's
available only for S939 and even the slowest S939 CPU
costs more than an entry-level S754 mobo plus gfx card.

Still, I'd really like to know because some people need a
fast processor and would also like to have reasonable gaming
experience, but cannot afford to bundle it with a matching
video card at the same time. They could upgrade to
something like a 6600 later.

"Zotin Khuma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "kony" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 01:04:44 +0530, "Zotin Khuma"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >I'll be grateful for any information about what the ATI
>> >X200 integrated video is like, as incorporated in the MSI
>> >RS480M2-IL ? I don't expect it to be high-end, but
>> >which popular GPU will be its approximate equivalent ?
>> >Is it better than the nForce 2 IGP ? If so, by how much ?
>> >
>> >I have not been able to find a proper review, and my
>> >internet connection has been abominably slow these past
>> >few days (download speed around 0.1 KB/s).
>> >
>>
>> Doesn't really matter much does it?
>> I mean, neither is fast enough for current gaming but both
>> (any modern DDR based integrated video for that matter) is
>> plenty fast enough for typical 2D PC uses including DVDs,
>> multimedia.
>>
> Thanks for the quick response, Paul and Kony. And kony,
> I always respect your opinions, but the fact is that a lot of
> people are still quite content with nForce 2 gfx because,
> although they know that even a lowly FX5200 is better than
> an nForce 2 IGP, they simply cannot afford anything better.
> Many of these people actually gush over how well the
> nForce 2 IGP lets them play Doom 3, AoE or NFSU - at
> low settings of course.
>
> The situation is a bit different with the X200 because it's
> available only for S939 and even the slowest S939 CPU
> costs more than an entry-level S754 mobo plus gfx card.
>
> Still, I'd really like to know because some people need a
> fast processor and would also like to have reasonable gaming
> experience, but cannot afford to bundle it with a matching
> video card at the same time. They could upgrade to
> something like a 6600 later.
>
Well the price here in the UK for that MSI board is only just over what it
costs for a graphics card of similar spec to its built in graphics:
MSI RS480M2-IL motherboard for £63.67 including VAT
Radeon X300 128MB PCI Express Graphics card for £56.39 including VAT
That means the motherboard component works out at about £8 (+ the cost of
extra memory to be shared with graphics) - pretty good value if you ask me.
Sure you could get a Socket 754 Nvidea chipset motherboard for less but if
its longevity you want, chances are you're not going to be able to upgrade
it so easily down the track -a bit like S423 Pentium 4 motherboards these
days. S939 CPUs are only a little more expensive than similar speed S754
Athlon 64 CPUs here so I'm not sure you'd save much in the end by buying the
older gear.

Paul