If that is not a stupid question?

Bill

From: "Bill Ross" <(E-Mail Removed)>

| If that is not a stupid question?
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| Bill
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I use both a ATI video card (VGA) and an ATI video capture card.

I have always been happy with ATI.

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:05:49 -0000, "Bill Ross" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>If that is not a stupid question?
>
>Bill

I'm probably not the person to ask, as I use video boards mostly for
2D graphics and text, mostly for software development. Over the
years I've had horrible luck with ATI. It's always a driver or
firmware problem or something, and it inevitably costs me $40 or
so on long distance calls, listening to hold music, and finally being
told that the firmware on that particular (new) board has a problem.

I've heard lots of similar stories, so I've never understood the
popularity of ATI. However, some must have good luck with them or
they would not be selling at all.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:29:01 -0500, _R <_(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>I'm probably not the person to ask, as I use video boards mostly for
>>2D graphics and text, mostly for software development. Over the
>>years I've had horrible luck with ATI. It's always a driver or
>>firmware problem or something, and it inevitably costs me $40 or
>>so on long distance calls, listening to hold music, and finally being
>>told that the firmware on that particular (new) board has a problem.
>>
>>I've heard lots of similar stories, so I've never understood the
>>popularity of ATI. However, some must have good luck with them or
>>they would not be selling at all.
I've heard similar stories from my co-workers...they've had horrible
luck with compatability issues.

Both of the have had no problems with nVidia based video cards.

Bill Ross wrote:
>
> If that is not a stupid question?
>
> Bill

I've used ATI cards for years and years.
There are those that swear up and down about problems, but then again
they might not know how to follow directions.
As a rule I find a stable set of drivers and dont upgrade to the latest
just because they are newer. Unless the newer drivers are fixing a
specific problem your having, or adding a feature you want/use then be
lean in your driver upgrading.
I suggest you DONT install the catalyst control centre. ATI has a habit
of adding features thjat THEY think ppl want, which end up messing up
other things, when they should spend their time fixing what is already in
need of fixing. Personally i think thier application writing ppl are
sadists. But I love thier products and graphics. I'm just not really fond
of thier inhouse software.

Anyone who spends $40 on phone calls to tech support, hasn't heard of a
clean system build, is too lazy to search an faq, too busy to ask in a
newsgroup, or has too much money to waste.

ATI 2d is way more easy on the eyes than any nvidia offering ever.

Hi, got to any NVidia forums and you'll find an equal number of references
to buggy drivers as well. It's all down to a matter of personal choice
really, no one manufacturer is worse than the other. Post up some system
specs and we'll see if we can help you further. What you want to run as
software will help as well, i.e games programmes.....
ChrisC
"Gordon Scott" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Bill Ross wrote:
>>
>> If that is not a stupid question?
>>
>> Bill
>
> I've used ATI cards for years and years.
> There are those that swear up and down about problems, but then again
> they might not know how to follow directions.
> As a rule I find a stable set of drivers and dont upgrade to the latest
> just because they are newer. Unless the newer drivers are fixing a
> specific problem your having, or adding a feature you want/use then be
> lean in your driver upgrading.
> I suggest you DONT install the catalyst control centre. ATI has a habit
> of adding features thjat THEY think ppl want, which end up messing up
> other things, when they should spend their time fixing what is already in
> need of fixing. Personally i think thier application writing ppl are
> sadists. But I love thier products and graphics. I'm just not really fond
> of thier inhouse software.
>
> Anyone who spends $40 on phone calls to tech support, hasn't heard of a
> clean system build, is too lazy to search an faq, too busy to ask in a
> newsgroup, or has too much money to waste.
>
> ATI 2d is way more easy on the eyes than any nvidia offering ever.

Bill Ross wrote:
> If that is not a stupid question?

My 9800 Pro has treate me well enough to just go out (well, stay in -
gotta love the internet) and buy an X800XL.

Thats despite using Linux a bit and having wafty 3D drivers for Linux,
but they are working on them, and they are getting closer to the Windows
drivers in performance.

Ben
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Gordon Scott wrote:
> Bill Ross wrote:
>>
>> If that is not a stupid question?
>>
>> Bill
>
> I've used ATI cards for years and years.
> There are those that swear up and down about problems, but then again
> they might not know how to follow directions.
> As a rule I find a stable set of drivers and dont upgrade to the
> latest just because they are newer. Unless the newer drivers are
> fixing a specific problem your having, or adding a feature you
> want/use then be lean in your driver upgrading.
> I suggest you DONT install the catalyst control centre. ATI has a
> habit of adding features thjat THEY think ppl want, which end up
> messing up other things, when they should spend their time fixing
> what is already in need of fixing. Personally i think thier
> application writing ppl are sadists. But I love thier products and
> graphics. I'm just not really fond of thier inhouse software.
>
> Anyone who spends $40 on phone calls to tech support, hasn't heard of
> a clean system build, is too lazy to search an faq, too busy to ask
> in a newsgroup, or has too much money to waste.
>
> ATI 2d is way more easy on the eyes than any nvidia offering ever.


I have to agree with Gordon on all three points. Just yesterday I upgraded
to the 6.14.10.6517 for Windows XP. They didn't work as well as previous
drivers, so I rolled them back. No call to tech support, no need to perform
a clean install.


2D is better than Nvidia although not as good as Matrox.

ati / nvidia on intel platform work quite well...I'de recomend an
nvidia card with amd platform, especially if it's nforce.
fyi


On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 02:05:49 -0000, "Bill Ross" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>If that is not a stupid question?
>
>Bill
>

ya, and don't you hate that "mmc" software crap ?
it's so top heavy with all that "dao" install crap...
Im using intervideo windvr3 with my aiw and it records straight to
mpeg and doesn't require "anet" and doesn't create a blooted database
of files of which I know where to find...oh ya and it doesn't crash!

nice product and drivers, but as you said...poor inhouse software,
it's crap...and like "GS" said, definately stay away from "ccc"
fyi

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:54:00 GMT, Gordon Scott
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Bill Ross wrote:
>>
>> If that is not a stupid question?
>>
>> Bill
>
>I've used ATI cards for years and years.
>There are those that swear up and down about problems, but then again
>they might not know how to follow directions.
>As a rule I find a stable set of drivers and dont upgrade to the latest
>just because they are newer. Unless the newer drivers are fixing a
>specific problem your having, or adding a feature you want/use then be
>lean in your driver upgrading.
>I suggest you DONT install the catalyst control centre. ATI has a habit
>of adding features thjat THEY think ppl want, which end up messing up
>other things, when they should spend their time fixing what is already in
>need of fixing. Personally i think thier application writing ppl are
>sadists. But I love thier products and graphics. I'm just not really fond
>of thier inhouse software.
>
>Anyone who spends $40 on phone calls to tech support, hasn't heard of a
>clean system build, is too lazy to search an faq, too busy to ask in a
>newsgroup, or has too much money to waste.
>
>ATI 2d is way more easy on the eyes than any nvidia offering ever.