On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:39:52 GMT, "matthew utt"
<(E-Mail Removed)> enlightened us by scribbling this gem of
wisdom:

>frank your a faggot

And you're a stupid ass high school jerk...if even that.
Typical kid with no listening comprehension skills or patience...so
many these days 8^


<Gibs> When you kill 6 people in Unreal Tournament
it is "MonsterKill", In Quake3 it is "Excellent",
in Counter-Strike it is "Kicked by console"

I'm shopping for a new computer and trying to decide what kind of video card I
need. Your rant pointed out a problem I have on my current machine about Outlook
Express freezing up. I have a PII 350 Mhz, with an AIW Rage Pro Turbo AGP 2X,
8MB (maybe a driver update changed its name?).

I want to be able to record with a TV Tuner (HDTV capable?), and have S-Video
inputs and outputs for my old analog 27" TV/VCR while using a sound card for
sound. I thought an ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV would be a good choice, but the
salesman warned me that this card was old (been out for 18 months at least) and
that ATI recommends trading in for better cards instead of issuing new patches.
Problems with the cards are best fixed by replacement (kind of like VCR's?) to
the higher models available for sale. He suggested I get a Radeon 9000 and buy a
separate mpeg capture card ($90 + $60) if I want to burn VHS or S-VHS to HD to
DVD. After reading the November 13th, 2002 and December 20th, 2002 press
releases at the www.ati.com site under company info, it says that ATI is
committed to DirectX 9.0 and HLSL using the Radeon 9500 and 9700 series boards
(no mention on 9600?).

Now you tell me that Windows XP has to support functions the ATI software was
supposed to function but won't. I am confused. Hit me again with the bad news
about this one.

I've been to another discussion board this morning that says that the Intel 875
mobo has to have the hyperthreading turned off in order for the ati videocard to
work. Why would I buy the mobo with all the features if the ati card demands
those features not exist?!

What videocard should I use for both Win 98 SE and Win XP? I suppose I'd want
Win XP in Fat 32 on the HD if Win 98SE was not supported by any currently
existing cards, or if I can't find another copy of Win 98 SE cheap.

My budget for a video/capture card is $150 to $200. What is good? Brand not yet
an issue, until a good rant comes along to sway me away.

Now that was /is a stupid comment! We ALL know that there is no problem
with AMD.




"ernie samulaitis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Pine.GSO.4.21.0310160122300.13814-(E-Mail Removed)...
> you're first mistake is putting a lame-ass AMD processor in there.
>
> have fun heating your house...
> zax0n
>
>

Try simply un-installing an Nvidia card and drivers and slapping in an ATI
card and drivers.

You have a 50/50 chance of your system going tits up. eradicate the Nvidia
driver via the reg and using 3rd party tools and all will be fine.

Things should be simple but they are not.

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:11:44 GMT, tonto <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> > You literally have to be a computer
> >programer to install and or update their drivers.
> lol
> What exactly is the difference in installing their drivers and the
> drivers of any other card ?
> Answer ...NONE
>
> Download driver
> click on file
> Drivers installed
>
> Look ma I'm a computer programmer ! NOT

Tim,

It looks like no one may have an answer to your problem with regards to your
ATi card.

All I can say is that there may not be an answer with the revision of the
card you have. A long time ago I owned a Creative Labs 3D Blaster that used
a Power VR chip. This card, tested in three PCs, with differing drivers and
clean installs etc simply did not work. Reading the newsgroup at the time
it was suggested that nearly all the cards did not work. (It was sold at $45
after being reduced a month after it's release! Wonder why....)

Obviously you had the odd post of people saying that their card worked and
that I must be a tosser with a crap PC etc. If you have tried varying PCs
and the software then all I can suggest is to wait for an updated driver or
put the card in as many PCs as you can find until the damn thing talks
properly to that machines hardware config.

Good luck and I must say that not all ATI hardware sucks, just some.

Dam6

O
>
>My machine:
>V-Card: AIW Radeon
>ASUS A7M266 w/AMD 1.333 GHz Athlon
>RAM: 512 MB
>Scratch drive: Has 65Gb free
>System: Recent *clean* install WinXP Pro
>Drivers: Latest from ATI (6.14.10.6387)
>

Is this a VIA chipset. If so have you installed the latest 4 in one
drivers? You should install in this manner in order to properly setup
the AGP/ PCI bridge
The OS
Any Service Packs
The chipset drivers. If chipset is VIA use the 4 in 1 drivers
Latest version of Direct X
Now install the video drivers
then install the other drivers


>Some scenarios:
>1. Set up PVR record. Come home later to either (a) MC is frozen, Windows
>crash notification, or (b) freshly-rebooted system, no recording. Happens
>MORE THAN HALF of the time!
>2. Sometimes MC crashes while just watching TV. Frequent.
>3. Sometimes while watching TV, picture spontaneously "zooms" (upper 1/4 of
>picture fills screen, no way to restore). Not common, but not rare either;
>may be more common while watching TV-on-demand.
>4. Use the jog feature more than once or twice & the picture freezes.
>5. Just got MC to crash by resetting screen res & turning off TV display,
>them moving the TV window (I can still hear the audio, but the player app is
>gone).
>
>There are *plenty* more, these are just the most recent/frequent.
>
>pant, pant ... Sorry to bitch but this POS has been a thorn in my side for
>years. I've been lurking here occasionally and haven't seen anything likely
>to help ...
>