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Walleye
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      23rd Aug 2003
I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win Me. I
reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and now the pc
never really comes up successfully.
It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of 'Windows
has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It mentions the video
driver as the possible culprit. I went to the MS KB article 318023 which is
specifically for this error but still nothing works.

I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the ATI site
with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts about the same
thing and people said to try various back-leveled versions of the ATI
drivers. Nothing works for me.

Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I guess this
is ok.

I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless someone
has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.

HELP!?

Thanks,
Walter


 
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Kent_Diego
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      24th Aug 2003
Make sure to test RAM by running memtest86. WinXP is a lot more picky about
hardware problems. Try different BIOS settings and look for newer BIOS for
motherboard. Be sure to install motherboard chipset and AGP drivers.

Post back when problem is fixed. Kent


 
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Walleye
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      24th Aug 2003
No virus but thanks for asking.

Walter

"JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:IuS1b.4877$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Gotta ask cause lately this has been the case and most fail to say whether
> or not they checked for virii. Virus?!
>
>
> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win Me. I
> > reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and now the pc
> > never really comes up successfully.
> > It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of

'Windows
> > has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It mentions the

video
> > driver as the possible culprit. I went to the MS KB article 318023

which
> is
> > specifically for this error but still nothing works.
> >
> > I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the ATI

site
> > with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts about the

same
> > thing and people said to try various back-leveled versions of the ATI
> > drivers. Nothing works for me.
> >
> > Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I guess

> this
> > is ok.
> >
> > I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless

someone
> > has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
> >
> > HELP!?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Walter
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Strontium
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      24th Aug 2003
What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers, and DX?
In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and most
importantly which card?

I found, as well as another person I know, that this is the most
trouble-free order: Install winblows. Install motherboard drivers.
***Install DX9***. Install video card drivers. Install latest ATI control
panel. Do NOT let winblows install the drivers for the card, at all. Use
the setup utility that comes with the drivers. I've, also, found that once
you are at the point that you are at...you need to start over. From the
beginning of the sequence. No driver removal tool, is going to work, at
that point.

Try it, and get back to us.


-
Walleye stood up at show-n-tell, in
QFT1b.171773$_(E-Mail Removed), and said:

> No virus but thanks for asking.
>
> Walter
>
> "JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:IuS1b.4877$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Gotta ask cause lately this has been the case and most fail to say
>> whether or not they checked for virii. Virus?!
>>
>>
>> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win
>>> Me. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and
>>> now the pc never really comes up successfully.
>>> It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of
>>> 'Windows has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It
>>> mentions the video driver as the possible culprit. I went to the
>>> MS KB article 318023 which is specifically for this error but still
>>> nothing works.
>>>
>>> I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the
>>> ATI site with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts
>>> about the same thing and people said to try various back-leveled
>>> versions of the ATI drivers. Nothing works for me.
>>>
>>> Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I
>>> guess this is ok.
>>>
>>> I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless
>>> someone has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
>>>
>>> HELP!?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Walter


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


 
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Walleye
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      24th Aug 2003
> What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers, and
DX?
> In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

most
> importantly which card?


What I did was take an exisiting pc setup that had Win ME on it and I
formatted the hard drive before loading Win XP Pro on it. So the XP Pro
setup installed whatever drivers it needed based on interrogating my
existing hw configuration. It wasn't until after the first reboot after
SETUP completed that it choked on the video card.

I installed DX 9B from MS based on trying to install the very latest ATI
Radeon driver set (when I first tried it the ATI setup choked on DX9 not
being there).

I have the Iwill KK266 mobo with VIA KT133A chipset, North Bridge VT8363A,
and South Bridge VT82C686B chipset. The cpu is an AMD Duron 700. The video
card is an OEM AGP Radeon LE (again which worked fine on Win Me). The card
gets identified by Windows as a Radeon 64MB DDE AGP.

Thanks,
Walter

"Strontium" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers, and

DX?
> In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

most
> importantly which card?
>
> I found, as well as another person I know, that this is the most
> trouble-free order: Install winblows. Install motherboard drivers.
> ***Install DX9***. Install video card drivers. Install latest ATI

control
> panel. Do NOT let winblows install the drivers for the card, at all. Use
> the setup utility that comes with the drivers. I've, also, found that

once
> you are at the point that you are at...you need to start over. From the
> beginning of the sequence. No driver removal tool, is going to work, at
> that point.
>
> Try it, and get back to us.
>
>
> -
> Walleye stood up at show-n-tell, in
> QFT1b.171773$_(E-Mail Removed), and said:
>
> > No virus but thanks for asking.
> >
> > Walter
> >
> > "JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:IuS1b.4877$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Gotta ask cause lately this has been the case and most fail to say
> >> whether or not they checked for virii. Virus?!
> >>
> >>
> >> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win
> >>> Me. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and
> >>> now the pc never really comes up successfully.
> >>> It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of
> >>> 'Windows has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It
> >>> mentions the video driver as the possible culprit. I went to the
> >>> MS KB article 318023 which is specifically for this error but still
> >>> nothing works.
> >>>
> >>> I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the
> >>> ATI site with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts
> >>> about the same thing and people said to try various back-leveled
> >>> versions of the ATI drivers. Nothing works for me.
> >>>
> >>> Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I
> >>> guess this is ok.
> >>>
> >>> I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless
> >>> someone has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
> >>>
> >>> HELP!?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Walter

>
> --
> Strontium
>
> "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
> now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit
>
>



 
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Arthur Ricker
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      24th Aug 2003
Did you ever install the VIA 4in1 chipset drivers?
I did that once and had similar issues.
The reason I ask is I didn't see you mention installing them.
Art.
"Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:ao52b.177822$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers, and

> DX?
> > In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

> most
> > importantly which card?

>
> What I did was take an exisiting pc setup that had Win ME on it and I
> formatted the hard drive before loading Win XP Pro on it. So the XP Pro
> setup installed whatever drivers it needed based on interrogating my
> existing hw configuration. It wasn't until after the first reboot after
> SETUP completed that it choked on the video card.
>
> I installed DX 9B from MS based on trying to install the very latest ATI
> Radeon driver set (when I first tried it the ATI setup choked on DX9 not
> being there).
>
> I have the Iwill KK266 mobo with VIA KT133A chipset, North Bridge VT8363A,
> and South Bridge VT82C686B chipset. The cpu is an AMD Duron 700. The

video
> card is an OEM AGP Radeon LE (again which worked fine on Win Me). The

card
> gets identified by Windows as a Radeon 64MB DDE AGP.
>
> Thanks,
> Walter
>
> "Strontium" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers, and

> DX?
> > In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

> most
> > importantly which card?
> >
> > I found, as well as another person I know, that this is the most
> > trouble-free order: Install winblows. Install motherboard drivers.
> > ***Install DX9***. Install video card drivers. Install latest ATI

> control
> > panel. Do NOT let winblows install the drivers for the card, at all.

Use
> > the setup utility that comes with the drivers. I've, also, found that

> once
> > you are at the point that you are at...you need to start over. From the
> > beginning of the sequence. No driver removal tool, is going to work, at
> > that point.
> >
> > Try it, and get back to us.
> >
> >
> > -
> > Walleye stood up at show-n-tell, in
> > QFT1b.171773$_(E-Mail Removed), and said:
> >
> > > No virus but thanks for asking.
> > >
> > > Walter
> > >
> > > "JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:IuS1b.4877$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> Gotta ask cause lately this has been the case and most fail to say
> > >> whether or not they checked for virii. Virus?!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > >> news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >>> I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win
> > >>> Me. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and
> > >>> now the pc never really comes up successfully.
> > >>> It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of
> > >>> 'Windows has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It
> > >>> mentions the video driver as the possible culprit. I went to the
> > >>> MS KB article 318023 which is specifically for this error but still
> > >>> nothing works.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the
> > >>> ATI site with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts
> > >>> about the same thing and people said to try various back-leveled
> > >>> versions of the ATI drivers. Nothing works for me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I
> > >>> guess this is ok.
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless
> > >>> someone has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
> > >>>
> > >>> HELP!?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Walter

> >
> > --
> > Strontium
> >
> > "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
> > now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit
> >
> >

>
>



 
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JAD
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      24th Aug 2003
<I installed DX 9B from MS based on trying to install the very latest ATI
Radeon driver set (when I first tried it the ATI setup choked on DX9 not
being there).>

Isn't this also a symptom of the DX9b install


"Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win Me. I
> reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it and now the pc
> never really comes up successfully.
> It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of 'Windows
> has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It mentions the video
> driver as the possible culprit. I went to the MS KB article 318023 which

is
> specifically for this error but still nothing works.
>
> I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the ATI site
> with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some posts about the same
> thing and people said to try various back-leveled versions of the ATI
> drivers. Nothing works for me.
>
> Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I guess

this
> is ok.
>
> I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless someone
> has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
>
> HELP!?
>
> Thanks,
> Walter
>
>



 
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Walleye
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      24th Aug 2003
Yes, I did install them.
I grabbed the latest version of the 4 in 1 drivers off the Iwill site along
with the onbaord audio drivers.

Thanks,
Walter

"Arthur Ricker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:UN52b.244666$YN5.164681@sccrnsc01...
> Did you ever install the VIA 4in1 chipset drivers?
> I did that once and had similar issues.
> The reason I ask is I didn't see you mention installing them.
> Art.
> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ao52b.177822$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers,

and
> > DX?
> > > In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

> > most
> > > importantly which card?

> >
> > What I did was take an exisiting pc setup that had Win ME on it and I
> > formatted the hard drive before loading Win XP Pro on it. So the XP Pro
> > setup installed whatever drivers it needed based on interrogating my
> > existing hw configuration. It wasn't until after the first reboot after
> > SETUP completed that it choked on the video card.
> >
> > I installed DX 9B from MS based on trying to install the very latest ATI
> > Radeon driver set (when I first tried it the ATI setup choked on DX9 not
> > being there).
> >
> > I have the Iwill KK266 mobo with VIA KT133A chipset, North Bridge

VT8363A,
> > and South Bridge VT82C686B chipset. The cpu is an AMD Duron 700. The

> video
> > card is an OEM AGP Radeon LE (again which worked fine on Win Me). The

> card
> > gets identified by Windows as a Radeon 64MB DDE AGP.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Walter
> >
> > "Strontium" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > What order did you install your motherboard drivers, video drivers,

and
> > DX?
> > > In fact, what motherboard are you running, what processor/chipset, and

> > most
> > > importantly which card?
> > >
> > > I found, as well as another person I know, that this is the most
> > > trouble-free order: Install winblows. Install motherboard drivers.
> > > ***Install DX9***. Install video card drivers. Install latest ATI

> > control
> > > panel. Do NOT let winblows install the drivers for the card, at all.

> Use
> > > the setup utility that comes with the drivers. I've, also, found that

> > once
> > > you are at the point that you are at...you need to start over. From

the
> > > beginning of the sequence. No driver removal tool, is going to work,

at
> > > that point.
> > >
> > > Try it, and get back to us.
> > >
> > >
> > > -
> > > Walleye stood up at show-n-tell, in
> > > QFT1b.171773$_(E-Mail Removed), and said:
> > >
> > > > No virus but thanks for asking.
> > > >
> > > > Walter
> > > >
> > > > "JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:IuS1b.4877$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >> Gotta ask cause lately this has been the case and most fail to say
> > > >> whether or not they checked for virii. Virus?!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Walleye" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > >> news3Q1b.169406$_(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > >>> I had my OEM ATI Radeon 64mb DDR AGP working perfectly under Win
> > > >>> Me. I reformatted my hard drive and installed Win XP Pro on it

and
> > > >>> now the pc never really comes up successfully.
> > > >>> It keeps shutting down and restarting with the usual XP pop-up of
> > > >>> 'Windows has recovered from a serious error ...blah..blah'. It
> > > >>> mentions the video driver as the possible culprit. I went to the
> > > >>> MS KB article 318023 which is specifically for this error but

still
> > > >>> nothing works.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've tried SAFE mode and installing the latest drivers off of the
> > > >>> ATI site with no success, I went to DRIVERS.COM and saw some

posts
> > > >>> about the same thing and people said to try various back-leveled
> > > >>> versions of the ATI drivers. Nothing works for me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Win XP seems to call the driver the Radeon 7000/7200 series but I
> > > >>> guess this is ok.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm ready to trash the damn ATI card and buy a non-ATI card unless
> > > >>> someone has any suggestions for me on how to get it to work.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> HELP!?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks,
> > > >>> Walter
> > >
> > > --
> > > Strontium
> > >
> > > "It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
> > > now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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Walleye
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      26th Aug 2003
Go figure. I managed to get a relatively stable system. Here's what I have
now:

Build 2600 of XP Pro (didn't d/l SP1 yet).
ATI drivers:
atidvag.dll version 5.10.2280.105
atimtag.sys version 5.13.01.3120

I went into my Award Bios Advanced Chipset Features and changed the AGP
Aperture Setting from 64M (default) down to 16M. I also changed the AGP-4X
Mode to disabled. I was able to boot up the pc at this point without it
crashing or giving me the 'Windows would like to report an error to MS'
pop-up.

I then went back to the bios and enabled AGP-4X mode (still at 16M) and was
still ok.
I then went back and changed the AGP Aperture Setting to 32M and was still
ok.
I then went back and changed the AGP Aperture Setting to 64M and was still
ok.

Windows identifies my card as ATI Radeon DDR (AGP) and details of the card
say it has 32M memory.

I don't know what was going on before but it seems like the settings are
back to optimized defaults in the bios.

Weird....
I want to run the system through some tests so what is a good proggie to
exercise it...Sisoft Sandra, anything else?


Thanks,
Walter
"Kent_Diego" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:qfT1b.17310$cj1.4712@fed1read06...
> Make sure to test RAM by running memtest86. WinXP is a lot more picky

about
> hardware problems. Try different BIOS settings and look for newer BIOS for
> motherboard. Be sure to install motherboard chipset and AGP drivers.
>
> Post back when problem is fixed. Kent
>
>



 
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Strontium
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      26th Aug 2003
Sandra is crap. Try a Google for 'prime95'.

-
Walleye stood up at show-n-tell, in
Ucy2b.195290$_(E-Mail Removed), and said:

> Go figure. I managed to get a relatively stable system. Here's what
> I have now:
>
> Build 2600 of XP Pro (didn't d/l SP1 yet).
> ATI drivers:
> atidvag.dll version 5.10.2280.105
> atimtag.sys version 5.13.01.3120
>
> I went into my Award Bios Advanced Chipset Features and changed the
> AGP Aperture Setting from 64M (default) down to 16M. I also changed
> the AGP-4X Mode to disabled. I was able to boot up the pc at this
> point without it crashing or giving me the 'Windows would like to
> report an error to MS' pop-up.
>
> I then went back to the bios and enabled AGP-4X mode (still at 16M)
> and was still ok.
> I then went back and changed the AGP Aperture Setting to 32M and was
> still ok.
> I then went back and changed the AGP Aperture Setting to 64M and was
> still ok.
>
> Windows identifies my card as ATI Radeon DDR (AGP) and details of the
> card say it has 32M memory.
>
> I don't know what was going on before but it seems like the settings
> are back to optimized defaults in the bios.
>
> Weird....
> I want to run the system through some tests so what is a good proggie
> to exercise it...Sisoft Sandra, anything else?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Walter
> "Kent_Diego" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:qfT1b.17310$cj1.4712@fed1read06...
>> Make sure to test RAM by running memtest86. WinXP is a lot more
>> picky about hardware problems. Try different BIOS settings and look
>> for newer BIOS for motherboard. Be sure to install motherboard
>> chipset and AGP drivers.
>>
>> Post back when problem is fixed. Kent


--
Strontium

"It's no surprise, to me. I am my own worst enemy. `Cause every
now, and then, I kick the livin' **** `outta me." - Lit


 
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