Ha! No kidding, who woulda thought?

ATI loses bus license from Intel | TG Daily
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/24/at...l_bus_license/

Yousuf Khan

"Yousuf Khan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ha! No kidding, who woulda thought?
>
> ATI loses bus license from Intel | TG Daily
> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/24/at...l_bus_license/
>
> Yousuf Khan

Wow,that was fast.New company,new agreements I suppose.

"Yousuf Khan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Ha! No kidding, who woulda thought?
>
> ATI loses bus license from Intel | TG Daily
> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/24/at...l_bus_license/
>
> Yousuf Khan.

According to the daily tech the agreement is still in place:

http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494

Carlo Razzeto wrote:
> According to the daily tech the agreement is still in place:
>
> http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494

Looks like Intel is still trying to grapple with the issue. It's a
highly emotion-driven company, and it's probably in the middle of its
laughing and crying stage right now.

It got all uptight when somebody asked about ATI being locked out of
the Conroe launch.

"Sean Maloney, Intel senior vice president for sales and marketing, cut
in and said: "Listen, this is a big day for us here ... what kind of a
question is that? No, the rumors are not true ... there are about five
ATI systems out there right now ..." His voice trailed off."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1995545,00.asp

But were ATI systems de-emphasized or reduced in number from before?

Row flares over ATI's role at Conroe launch
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33323

On 28 Jul 2006 05:50:24 -0700, "bbbl67" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Carlo Razzeto wrote:
>> According to the daily tech the agreement is still in place:
>>
>> http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494
>
>Looks like Intel is still trying to grapple with the issue. It's a
>highly emotion-driven company, and it's probably in the middle of its
>laughing and crying stage right now.
>
>It got all uptight when somebody asked about ATI being locked out of
>the Conroe launch.
>
>"Sean Maloney, Intel senior vice president for sales and marketing, cut
>in and said: "Listen, this is a big day for us here ... what kind of a
>question is that? No, the rumors are not true ... there are about five
>ATI systems out there right now ..." His voice trailed off."
>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1995545,00.asp
>
>But were ATI systems de-emphasized or reduced in number from before?
>
>Row flares over ATI's role at Conroe launch
>http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33323

I was at the launch after the journalists and analysts left, and I saw
about an even mix of SLI (dual and quad) and Crossfire systems. I
didn't pay much attention to the lesser boxes, so can't speak for the
single-board systems.

The box that was claimed to be the most powerful had quad SLI and a
Core 2 Duo Extreme CPU, with water cooling shared by CPU and GPUs.
Even with big watercooled heatsinks, the quad SLI cards were giving
off considerable heat, while the heatsink on the CPU was cool to the
touch.

The demo guy for this box was repeatedly asked about the aggressive
CPU cooling for a chip marketed as lower power, and he replied that
the CPU wasn't overclocked, but the system was marketed towards people
who wanted to be able to overclock.

Nobody I spoke to seemed particularly concerned about what GPUs were
used, but the CPUs were the focus of the day, after all.



--
Neil Maxwell - I don't speak for my employer

On 28 Jul 2006 05:50:24 -0700, "bbbl67" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Carlo Razzeto wrote:
>> According to the daily tech the agreement is still in place:
>>
>> http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494
>
>Looks like Intel is still trying to grapple with the issue. It's a
>highly emotion-driven company, and it's probably in the middle of its
>laughing and crying stage right now.
>
>It got all uptight when somebody asked about ATI being locked out of
>the Conroe launch.
>
>"Sean Maloney, Intel senior vice president for sales and marketing, cut
>in and said: "Listen, this is a big day for us here ... what kind of a
>question is that? No, the rumors are not true ... there are about five
>ATI systems out there right now ..." His voice trailed off."
>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1995545,00.asp

This article is full of errors. I guess he didn't have his tape
recorder going. He totally bungled every quote in the article,
paraphrasing everyone in a way that supported the article's theme.

For the most obvious parts, Otellini didn't glare when asked about the
whether he saw elements of graphics going into the microprocessor, he
glanced at Maloney, then smiled after he answered, and joked about it
on the next question, getting a laugh from the audience. He also
didn't say "Next question". Maloney, while irked, didn't say "What
kind of question is that? No, the rumors are not true", and his voice
didn't trail off - he said "There are 5 ATI systems out there" in a
strong way, ending with a "You connect the dots" shrug.

The guy who wrote this article is obviously spinning it from a faulty
memory. That's the polite version, anyway.

max

max wrote:
> The guy who wrote this article is obviously spinning it from a faulty
> memory. That's the polite version, anyway.
>

Quite likely.

Yousuf Khan

On 28 Jul 2006 05:50:24 -0700, "bbbl67" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Carlo Razzeto wrote:
>> According to the daily tech the agreement is still in place:
>>
>> http://dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494
>
>Looks like Intel is still trying to grapple with the issue. It's a
>highly emotion-driven company, and it's probably in the middle of its
>laughing and crying stage right now.

One thing I've been wondering about in this: does Intel need a license from
ATI to make Crossfire work with the i975 chipset? That'd kinda complicate
things and cheer up nVidia rather nicely.:-)

>It got all uptight when somebody asked about ATI being locked out of
>the Conroe launch.
>
>"Sean Maloney, Intel senior vice president for sales and marketing, cut
>in and said: "Listen, this is a big day for us here ... what kind of a
>question is that? No, the rumors are not true ... there are about five
>ATI systems out there right now ..." His voice trailed off."
>http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1995545,00.asp
>
>But were ATI systems de-emphasized or reduced in number from before?
>
>Row flares over ATI's role at Conroe launch
>http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33323

Since ATI was "kicked off the stage"... seems like that satisfies
"de-emphasized" - no?:-) What a petty, puerile move from an industry umm,
giant. Now they'll have to remove all that buck-shot from their feet.

--
Rgds, George Macdonald

George Macdonald wrote:
> Since ATI was "kicked off the stage"... seems like that satisfies
> "de-emphasized" - no?:-) What a petty, puerile move from an industry umm,
> giant. Now they'll have to remove all that buck-shot from their feet.
>

Even if the reporter's take on Intel's reactions isn't right, as some of
the Intel folks around here are saying, just the fact that ATI was
pulled out of the onstage demos is quite telling.

Yousuf Khan

max wrote:
> This article is full of errors. I guess he didn't have his tape
> recorder going. He totally bungled every quote in the article,
> paraphrasing everyone in a way that supported the article's theme.

Okay, be that as it may, if reporters are taking liberties with their
stories, then do you have an explanation for this story?

PC World PC World's Techlog
http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/002494.html

> PC World's Harry McCracken:
>
> "For me, though, the most memorable moment of the morning was a completely unexpected one. The event kicked off with a speech by Intel CEO Paul Ottelini in which he talked, among other things, about the era in which the CPU wars were about clockspeed. To make his point, he had a slide in which he showed covers of old computer magazines, going all the way back to the days when a 90-MHz machine was a hot rod.
>
> Here's the slide (which is a bit fuzzy because it's a still from a video I shot with my little Canon Elph)
>
> I wasn't surprised by the old covers, since we'd given Intel some images of old PCWs to help them out. But I was startled, to say the least, by that PC World on the far right, showing the January, 2003 issue with its great big "First 3-GHz PCs for 2003" line.
>
> How come I was flummoxed by a PCW cover? Well, we never did that one. Here's the real January, 2003 issue, which did mention 3-Ghz PCs, but as a text-only line above our logo."

Sounds like liberties with the truth are being taken all around here,
doesn't it?

Yousuf Khan