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Richard
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      1st Dec 2003
Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
the promise of the card and would like to use it.


 
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JAD
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      1st Dec 2003
<Returned card.>


story over


almost guarantee it was a dll,vxd,act left behind from nvidea, or a defective card. There is no reason that a vid card won't work
in one system and not another. provided the MB/PSU meet the specs. Did you look to see that the 'INF' file was removed from
X:/windows/INF/other that was associated with the prior card ? Did you reset the configuration data of the MB?


"Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:JMyyb.134326$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
> the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
> 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
> the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
> boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
> lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
> card back in and all is fine. Any ideas? I really liked
> the promise of the card and would like to use it.
>
>



 
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Richard
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      1st Dec 2003
PSU is 300 watts. No problem with the GF3. By resetting the MB info do you
mean resetting the ESCD(?) in the bios setup. If so, yes. I was not aware
of the inf file in windows/INF/other. Thought the uninstall of the Nvidia
drivers would clear all up<g>. The fact that it booted as VGA and hard disk
write errors later made me think of something lower level (IRQ or I/O
addresses).
"JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:fVyyb.32591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> <Returned card.>
>
>
> story over
>
>
> almost guarantee it was a dll,vxd,act left behind from nvidea, or a

defective card. There is no reason that a vid card won't work
> in one system and not another. provided the MB/PSU meet the specs. Did you

look to see that the 'INF' file was removed from
> X:/windows/INF/other that was associated with the prior card ? Did you

reset the configuration data of the MB?
>
>
> "Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:JMyyb.134326$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set.

Uninstalled
> > the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> > VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of

DDR
> > 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special.

Uninstalled
> > the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> > good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> > died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C:

on
> > boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data

was
> > lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> > NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> > Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the

Nvidia
> > card back in and all is fine. Any ideas? I really liked
> > the promise of the card and would like to use it.
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Brett Simmers
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      1st Dec 2003
Richard wrote:
> Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
> the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
> 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
> the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
> boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
> lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
> card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
> the promise of the card and would like to use it.
>
>

I had the same problem, delayed write errors after installing an AIW 9600 pro.
I installed the drivers for my IDE controller and that fixed it, card works
great now. You shouldn't have returned it so soon .

Brett
 
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JAD
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      1st Dec 2003
The fact that it booted as VGA and hard disk
> write errors later made me think of something lower level (IRQ or I/O
> addresses).


that's where I was going with the ESCD in the bios, what about the PnP OS installed setting? No?

Although it booted to VGA if you were to look at the bootlog I would bet there is a series of 'failed to load properly' entries
This is because the INF file gets left behind and do to some reg entries/driver files also left behind. There are a few free
utilities out there specifically designed to remove nvidia drivers, I highly recommend using them.

Also boot to safe mode and goto the Device manager check the list for obsolete hardware that is no longer on the system or
duplicates and remove them.

"Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news0zyb.134396$(E-Mail Removed)...
> PSU is 300 watts. No problem with the GF3. By resetting the MB info do you
> mean resetting the ESCD(?) in the bios setup. If so, yes. I was not aware
> of the inf file in windows/INF/other. Thought the uninstall of the Nvidia
> drivers would clear all up<g>. > "JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:fVyyb.32591$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > <Returned card.>
> >
> >
> > story over
> >
> >
> > almost guarantee it was a dll,vxd,act left behind from nvidea, or a

> defective card. There is no reason that a vid card won't work
> > in one system and not another. provided the MB/PSU meet the specs. Did you

> look to see that the 'INF' file was removed from
> > X:/windows/INF/other that was associated with the prior card ? Did you

> reset the configuration data of the MB?
> >
> >
> > "Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

> news:JMyyb.134326$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set.

> Uninstalled
> > > the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> > > VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of

> DDR
> > > 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special.

> Uninstalled
> > > the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> > > good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> > > died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C:

> on
> > > boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data

> was
> > > lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> > > NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> > > Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the

> Nvidia
> > > card back in and all is fine. Any ideas? I really liked
> > > the promise of the card and would like to use it.
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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JAD
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      1st Dec 2003
hmmm said he had the latest VIA's what drivers did you use?

"Brett Simmers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Rt2dnYjnoaVOXFeiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Richard wrote:
> > Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
> > the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> > VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
> > 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
> > the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> > good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> > died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
> > boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
> > lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> > NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> > Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
> > card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
> > the promise of the card and would like to use it.
> >
> >

> I had the same problem, delayed write errors after installing an AIW 9600 pro.
> I installed the drivers for my IDE controller and that fixed it, card works
> great now. You shouldn't have returned it so soon .
>
> Brett



 
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Richard
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      1st Dec 2003
I know of no way I could have reinstalled the MOBO drivers. I could only
boot into safe mode. The only HD/IDE drivers I am aware of are XP native or
VIAs Hyperion and the VIA pack would not install in safe mode. I tried
booting from the XP CD and repairing but that did on help. Hoe did you do
it?
"Brett Simmers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Rt2dnYjnoaVOXFeiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Richard wrote:
> > Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set.

Uninstalled
> > the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> > VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of

DDR
> > 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special.

Uninstalled
> > the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> > good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> > died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C:

on
> > boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data

was
> > lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> > NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> > Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the

Nvidia
> > card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really

liked
> > the promise of the card and would like to use it.
> >
> >

> I had the same problem, delayed write errors after installing an AIW 9600

pro.
> I installed the drivers for my IDE controller and that fixed it, card

works
> great now. You shouldn't have returned it so soon .
>
> Brett



 
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Richard
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      1st Dec 2003
Well, I just noticed something. The VIA drivers I have are 4.50. The
current latest I NOW show on VIAs site 4.49. I wonder if the 4.50 were
buggy. This is a stretch since VIA seems to be pretty good about driver
quality.
"Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:JMyyb.134326$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
> the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
> 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
> the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
> boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
> lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
> card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
> the promise of the card and would like to use it.
>
>



 
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JAD
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      1st Dec 2003
not a far a stretch as you may think...triple check that....when the VIA isn't right the whole system goes buggy.



"Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:MDzyb.365957$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, I just noticed something. The VIA drivers I have are 4.50. The
> current latest I NOW show on VIAs site 4.49. I wonder if the 4.50 were
> buggy. This is a stretch since VIA seems to be pretty good about driver
> quality.
> "Richard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:JMyyb.134326$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
> > the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
> > VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
> > 333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
> > the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
> > good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
> > died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
> > boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
> > lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
> > NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
> > Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
> > card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
> > the promise of the card and would like to use it.
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Brett Simmers
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      1st Dec 2003
JAD wrote:
> hmmm said he had the latest VIA's what drivers did you use?


I have an ALi chipset, I used the ALi Mini IDE driver (I think that's what it's
called)

> "Brett Simmers" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Rt2dnYjnoaVOXFeiRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Richard wrote:
>>
>>>Got an ATI 9600 All-In One yesterday. Like the feature set. Uninstalled
>>>the old GF3 and installed the 9600. My system died. The gory details:
>>>VIA KT400 MB (MSI 6712). Latest VIA drivers. Athlon XP1800. 512 of DDR
>>>333 RAM. XP Pro. 20 gigs free disk space. Nothing special. Uninstalled
>>>the Nvidia drivers first. The system booted as VGA adaptor. So far so
>>>good. Installed the ATI drivers. Bad stuff happened. The on board NIC
>>>died. Worse, got major hard disk write errors. Could not write to C: on
>>>boot. Messages kept appearing that delayed writes had failed and data was
>>>lost. Got into safe mode after scandisk fixed HD errors (this is on
>>>NTFS-never saw that screen before). Uninstalled all ATI software.
>>>Downloaded latest drivers from ATI web site. Same issues. Put the Nvidia
>>>card back in and all is fine. Returned card. Any ideas? I really liked
>>>the promise of the card and would like to use it.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>I had the same problem, delayed write errors after installing an AIW 9600 pro.
>>I installed the drivers for my IDE controller and that fixed it, card works
>>great now. You shouldn't have returned it so soon .
>>
>>Brett

 
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