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ATI 9200 won't synch above 75 hertz...why?

 
 
Don Enderton
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      4th Oct 2003
My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can run at
a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button on
the monitor.

The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200 (through
Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's System
Information confirms the 9200 settings.

Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75, when
the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?

Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with my
older cards).


 
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JAD
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      4th Oct 2003
what is the description of your monitor in display properties.

"Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can run at
> a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button on
> the monitor.
>
> The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200 (through
> Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's System
> Information confirms the 9200 settings.
>
> Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75, when
> the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
>
> Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with my
> older cards).
>
>



 
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Don Enderton
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      4th Oct 2003
"Dell 1726T-HS/D1025HT" is the description of my monitor in display
properties. For location, the same tab says "on RADEON 9200."

-- Don

"JAD" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> what is the description of your monitor in display properties.
>
> "Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can

run at
> > a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> > cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button

on
> > the monitor.
> >
> > The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200

(through
> > Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's

System
> > Information confirms the 9200 settings.
> >
> > Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75,

when
> > the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
> >
> > Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with

my
> > older cards).
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Daniel Tonks
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      4th Oct 2003
"Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can run

at
> a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button on
> the monitor.
>
> The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200

(through
> Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's

System
> Information confirms the 9200 settings.
>
> Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75,

when
> the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
>
> Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with

my
> older cards).



Nothing wrong with the card. This is a known issue with XP. Instead of
hacking through the registry, what I suggest is you download a program
called "Reforce" (http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/) which will allow you to
modify your monitor's profile. What the program does is fool the computer
into thinking that the lowest refresh rate your monitor will run is the one
you want it to run at - be it 75Hz, 85Hz, 100Hz, etc.

When you load it up the program displays a list of all possible resolutions
and the maximum refresh rate supported by your monitor profile. Just change
any that are too high to a lower value (like if it says 150Hz at 640x480 you
might want to make that 100Hz instead) then apply and reboot. Another tip -
go to Display Properties - Settings - Advanced - Monitor and make sure the
"Hide modes that this monitor cannot display" option is ticked, otherwise
this may not work.

This forces your refresh rate in all 2D and 3D applications. Note that the
number you enter has to be supported by the video driver - so don't enter
odd numbers like "96Hz", stick with what you know is an option like 85Hz,
90Hz, 100Hz, etc.

This has worked well for me for over a year...

- Daniel


 
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DaveW
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      4th Oct 2003
What resolution is your graphics card set to? That may be the problem.

--
DaveW



"Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can run

at
> a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button on
> the monitor.
>
> The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200

(through
> Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's

System
> Information confirms the 9200 settings.
>
> Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75,

when
> the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
>
> Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with

my
> older cards).
>
>



 
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Don Enderton
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      4th Oct 2003
800 x 600, 100 hertz

-- Don

"DaveW" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What resolution is your graphics card set to? That may be the problem.
>
> --
> DaveW
>
>
>
> "Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can

run
> at
> > a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> > cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button

on
> > the monitor.
> >
> > The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200

> (through
> > Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's

> System
> > Information confirms the 9200 settings.
> >
> > Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75,

> when
> > the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
> >
> > Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with

> my
> > older cards).
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Don Enderton
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      4th Oct 2003
But Daniel, XP is reporting it is supporting the refresh rate I want, 100
hertz. It's the MONITOR which says it's only at 75 hertz even though XP is
reporting 100.

In view of that, do you still think "Reforce" would help?

- Don

"Daniel Tonks" <dtonks@sunstormADD-DOT-COM> wrote in message
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> "Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:QeDfb.163868$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My monitor is a Dell (Sony) Trinitron D1025HT which per its specs can

run
> at
> > a vertical synch rate of 100 hertz, and has done so with two older video
> > cards. The monitor reports its synch rate if I press a certain button

on
> > the monitor.
> >
> > The monitor reports a synch rate of only 75 hertz, whether the 9200

> (through
> > Settings in Display Properties) is set to 75, 85, or 100 hertz. XP's

> System
> > Information confirms the 9200 settings.
> >
> > Why won't the ATI brand 9200 synch with my monitor at higher than 75,

> when
> > the monitor runs at 100 with other cards?
> >
> > Is the card defective? The monitor is not defective (not when used with

> my
> > older cards).

>
>
> Nothing wrong with the card. This is a known issue with XP. Instead of
> hacking through the registry, what I suggest is you download a program
> called "Reforce" (http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/) which will allow you

to
> modify your monitor's profile. What the program does is fool the computer
> into thinking that the lowest refresh rate your monitor will run is the

one
> you want it to run at - be it 75Hz, 85Hz, 100Hz, etc.
>
> When you load it up the program displays a list of all possible

resolutions
> and the maximum refresh rate supported by your monitor profile. Just

change
> any that are too high to a lower value (like if it says 150Hz at 640x480

you
> might want to make that 100Hz instead) then apply and reboot. Another

tip -
> go to Display Properties - Settings - Advanced - Monitor and make sure the
> "Hide modes that this monitor cannot display" option is ticked, otherwise
> this may not work.
>
> This forces your refresh rate in all 2D and 3D applications. Note that the
> number you enter has to be supported by the video driver - so don't enter
> odd numbers like "96Hz", stick with what you know is an option like 85Hz,
> 90Hz, 100Hz, etc.
>
> This has worked well for me for over a year...
>
> - Daniel
>
>



 
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Daniel Tonks
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      5th Oct 2003
"Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> But Daniel, XP is reporting it is supporting the refresh rate I want, 100
> hertz. It's the MONITOR which says it's only at 75 hertz even though XP

is
> reporting 100.
>
> In view of that, do you still think "Reforce" would help?



That's exactly what Reforce is designed to fix.

- Daniel


 
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Don Enderton
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      5th Oct 2003
This is not happening in just games. It's when nothing is running, except
the desktop.

Are you saying XP is programmed to tell me the card is running at 100 hertz
when it's actually running at 75? I didn't get that from reading about
Reforce and other descriptions about the "XP Refresh Problem" - instead
descriptions of the problem reference XP shifting one down to, for example,
60 hertz in certain games. They don't describe any problem when games are
not running.

"Daniel Tonks" <dtonks@sunstormADD-DOT-COM> wrote in message
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> "Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:jeIfb.164458$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > But Daniel, XP is reporting it is supporting the refresh rate I want,

100
> > hertz. It's the MONITOR which says it's only at 75 hertz even though XP

> is
> > reporting 100.
> >
> > In view of that, do you still think "Reforce" would help?

>
>
> That's exactly what Reforce is designed to fix.
>
> - Daniel
>
>



 
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JAD
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      5th Oct 2003
it would be 60 no matter what right at boot is when the 60 is enforced by XP.....
Your saying that your OSD of the monitor says 75hz when XP says 100, hmmmm who do you trust?your eyes i would guess.
is the monitor able to be adjusted from the OSD AFA hz?

"Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:YVJfb.169527$(E-Mail Removed)...
> This is not happening in just games. It's when nothing is running, except
> the desktop.
>
> Are you saying XP is programmed to tell me the card is running at 100 hertz
> when it's actually running at 75? I didn't get that from reading about
> Reforce and other descriptions about the "XP Refresh Problem" - instead
> descriptions of the problem reference XP shifting one down to, for example,
> 60 hertz in certain games. They don't describe any problem when games are
> not running.
>
> "Daniel Tonks" <dtonks@sunstormADD-DOT-COM> wrote in message
> news:3f7f5571$0$41293$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > "Don Enderton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:jeIfb.164458$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > But Daniel, XP is reporting it is supporting the refresh rate I want,

> 100
> > > hertz. It's the MONITOR which says it's only at 75 hertz even though XP

> > is
> > > reporting 100.
> > >
> > > In view of that, do you still think "Reforce" would help?

> >
> >
> > That's exactly what Reforce is designed to fix.
> >
> > - Daniel
> >
> >

>
>



 
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