Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's
site. I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard
just to get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is
registering correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could
be overlooking?

Thanks

Bob

P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try
setting it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values
like the fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...

"Bob Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:_4Mhe.2987$DC2.1733@okepread01...
> Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
> 3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
> difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
> would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
> score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
> bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's site.
> I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard just to
> get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is registering
> correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could be
> overlooking?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
>
> P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
> 166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try setting
> it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values like the
> fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...

the AMD64 3400 is in reality a 2400mhz processor..........its yet another
iffy description.

Gomma Pyle wrote:
> "Bob Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:_4Mhe.2987$DC2.1733@okepread01...
>
>>Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
>>3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
>>difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
>>would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
>>score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
>>bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's site.
>>I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard just to
>>get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is registering
>>correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could be
>>overlooking?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
>>166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try setting
>>it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values like the
>>fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...
>
>
> the AMD64 3400 is in reality a 2400mhz processor..........its yet another
> iffy description.
>
>
Why's that - I mentioned that it is showing up as 2400mhz (12x200) yet
the ddr is showing up as 166 and the benchmarks aren't nearly as strong
as a 3400+ should register..

Bob

"Bob Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Gomma Pyle wrote:
>> "Bob Robertson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:_4Mhe.2987$DC2.1733@okepread01...
>>
>>>Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
>>>3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
>>>difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
>>>would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
>>>score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
>>>bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's site.
>>>I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard just to
>>>get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is registering
>>>correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could be
>>>overlooking?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>
>>>P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
>>>166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try
>>>setting it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values
>>>like the fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...
>>
>>
>> the AMD64 3400 is in reality a 2400mhz processor..........its yet another
>> iffy description.
> Why's that - I mentioned that it is showing up as 2400mhz (12x200) yet the
> ddr is showing up as 166 and the benchmarks aren't nearly as strong as a
> 3400+ should register..
>
> Bob

I bought same processor (well more a combo board and processor deal) then
did a google and found out about its true strength............I still fitted
it and am happy with speeds. I only had a 1200 before so this is much
better.

On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:58:20 -0700, Bob Robertson wrote:

from what ive heard you could have a pair of sli-ed 6800gt's and you still
wouldnt be cpu limited in stuff like doom3 but then what do i know ive an
amd64 and geforce2mx

On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:58:20 -0700, Bob Robertson wrote:

> Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
> 3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
> difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
> would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
> score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
> bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's
> site. I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard
> just to get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is
> registering correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could
> be overlooking?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob
>
> P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
> 166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try
> setting it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values
> like the fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...

You are probably running in a low power mode. It sounds like you are
using Windoze so go to the Power Options control panel. Under
Power Schemes pick Home/Desktop and see if that speeds your system up. The
A64 has Cool & Quiet which allows you to scale back the clock speed to
less then half of the max clock speed (on Linux the slow speed for a 3400+
is 800MHz, it's probably the same for XP). In the slow mode (which is
plenty fast most of the time) the system can turn off the CPU Fan which is
why it's desirable to use the Cool & Quiet feature. When you put it into
desktop mode XP cranks the CPU clock up to the full speed. On Linux
systems you want to be using the On Demand power governor which will
dynamically alter the speed depending on the CPU load. On Demand usually
requires a custom kernel, most standard kernels ship with the User Space
governor which requires you to write the speed into the
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed file.

On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:58:20 -0700, Bob Robertson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
>3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
>difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
>would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
>score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
>bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's
>site. I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard
>just to get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is
>registering correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could
>be overlooking?
>
>Thanks
>
>Bob
>
>P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
>166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try
>setting it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values
>like the fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...

yes your memory should be at 200MHz, don't use the
utility... set it in the bios.

kony wrote:
> On Sun, 15 May 2005 10:58:20 -0700, Bob Robertson
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>Hey guys, I upgraded my system this weekend from an XP 2000+ to an A64
>>3400+ and gigabyte motherboard. I ran some games and didn't see a huge
>>difference so I decided to run 3dmark on it (BTW I have a 6600GT which I
>>would have thought would be cpu limited with the XP2000+). The 3dmark
>>score is barely above what it was with my XP2000+ and the CPU mark is a
>>bit over half of what other 3400+'s are registering on futuremark's
>>site. I installed an o'clocking utility that came with the motherboard
>>just to get some visibility into the multiplier and bus speed it is
>>registering correctly - 2400Mhz (12x 200Mhz). Anyone know what I could
>>be overlooking?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>P.S. I noticed that the utility is registering my DDR3200 as running at
>>166Mhz....shouldn't this have been auto-set to 200Mhz? When I try
>>setting it to 200 with the utility, it attempts to change other values
>>like the fsb speed and the clock multiplier for some reason...
>
>
> yes your memory should be at 200MHz, don't use the
> utility... set it in the bios.
Unfortunately the Bios is fairly limited - there is nothing addressing
ram directly; all it lists is "CPU Overclock in MHz" - which is already
set to 200....other than the overclocking util not sure how to bump that
up (shouldn't the system have detected pc3200 in the first place?)

Bob

For me, with a 6600GT, going from a mobile xp o/c'd to 3000+ speed to an A64
Winchester o/c'd to 3800+, in 3d mark 03 and 05 there's not much difference
at all.

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