Good morning

I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up till
today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its flaws).
Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email, something I
do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of taking me to the
web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page, and could go no
further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in my settings for
months, and installed no new software in ages, so it looks like it is one of
those many updates that Microsoft makes that is the culprit.

I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how I
get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel happier,
consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this is just one
more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is slowly driving
me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they once had from me
and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.

All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone dead,
so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone tell me
where to find the setting?

If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new" live
mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to just log
on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web site, and want
no part of what is no more than just another layer of interference, and
*most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.

And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of Windows I
stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.

Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting your
bandwidth as it won't be read.

Romane

Good morning

Have spent some time digging, and though still very frustrated by Vista in
general (and still seriously considering dumping it altogether for Linux,
which would be regretful as there are some very good points in Vista), have
resolved the issue I posted about below. The sender of some of my emails has
been sending these links with the redirection to the "Outlook Web Access"
server included in their emails. Have written to them requesting that they
change their process, as these particular emails go to a huge selection of
recipients, none of whom have access to this persons server.

Romane


"Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uXaRRO$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Good morning
>
> I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up
> till today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its
> flaws). Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email,
> something I do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of
> taking me to the web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page, and
> could go no further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in my
> settings for months, and installed no new software in ages, so it looks
> like it is one of those many updates that Microsoft makes that is the
> culprit.
>
> I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how I
> get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel happier,
> consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this is just one
> more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is slowly
> driving me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they once had
> from me and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.
>
> All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone
> dead, so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone
> tell me where to find the setting?
>
> If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new"
> live mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to
> just log on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web site,
> and want no part of what is no more than just another layer of
> interference, and *most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.
>
> And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of Windows
> I stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.
>
> Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting your
> bandwidth as it won't be read.
>
> Romane
>

Thanks for the update.
In the future, please respond in the same thread that you started.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Om8m%23Z$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Good morning
>
> Have spent some time digging, and though still very frustrated by Vista in
> general (and still seriously considering dumping it altogether for Linux,
> which would be regretful as there are some very good points in Vista), have
> resolved the issue I posted about below. The sender of some of my emails has
> been sending these links with the redirection to the "Outlook Web Access"
> server included in their emails. Have written to them requesting that they
> change their process, as these particular emails go to a huge selection of
> recipients, none of whom have access to this persons server.
>
> Romane
>
>
> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:uXaRRO$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Good morning
>>
>> I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up
>> till today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its
>> flaws). Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email,
>> something I do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of
>> taking me to the web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page, and
>> could go no further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in my
>> settings for months, and installed no new software in ages, so it looks
>> like it is one of those many updates that Microsoft makes that is the
>> culprit.
>>
>> I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how I
>> get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel happier,
>> consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this is just one
>> more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is slowly
>> driving me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they once had
>> from me and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.
>>
>> All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone
>> dead, so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone
>> tell me where to find the setting?
>>
>> If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new"
>> live mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to
>> just log on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web site,
>> and want no part of what is no more than just another layer of
>> interference, and *most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.
>>
>> And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of Windows
>> I stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.
>>
>> Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting your
>> bandwidth as it won't be read.
>>
>> Romane
>>
>

Gary

Many thanks for the chastisement - unneeded, unasked for, unwarranted and
one I find personally offensive. My response was made as a reply to my own
original posting, and if your reader system gets its twisteds in a nicker,
please do use that as an excuse to berate me - I am not a child to be
lectured by some self-important MVP.

Romane


"Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks for the update.
> In the future, please respond in the same thread that you started.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>
>
> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Om8m%23Z$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Good morning
>>
>> Have spent some time digging, and though still very frustrated by Vista
>> in general (and still seriously considering dumping it altogether for
>> Linux, which would be regretful as there are some very good points in
>> Vista), have resolved the issue I posted about below. The sender of some
>> of my emails has been sending these links with the redirection to the
>> "Outlook Web Access" server included in their emails. Have written to
>> them requesting that they change their process, as these particular
>> emails go to a huge selection of recipients, none of whom have access to
>> this persons server.
>>
>> Romane
>>
>>
>> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:uXaRRO$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up
>>> till today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its
>>> flaws). Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email,
>>> something I do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of
>>> taking me to the web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page,
>>> and could go no further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in
>>> my settings for months, and installed no new software in ages, so it
>>> looks like it is one of those many updates that Microsoft makes that is
>>> the culprit.
>>>
>>> I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how
>>> I get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel
>>> happier, consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this
>>> is just one more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is
>>> slowly driving me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they
>>> once had from me and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.
>>>
>>> All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone
>>> dead, so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone
>>> tell me where to find the setting?
>>>
>>> If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new"
>>> live mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to
>>> just log on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web
>>> site, and want no part of what is no more than just another layer of
>>> interference, and *most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.
>>>
>>> And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of
>>> Windows I stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.
>>>
>>> Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting
>>> your bandwidth as it won't be read.
>>>
>>> Romane
>>>
>>

Understood, but most of the users here just sort by Subject line.
For the purpose of this newsgroup it is better to accommodate the
lowest common denominator. ;-)

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Gary
>
> Many thanks for the chastisement - unneeded, unasked for, unwarranted and
> one I find personally offensive. My response was made as a reply to my own
> original posting, and if your reader system gets its twisteds in a nicker,
> please do use that as an excuse to berate me - I am not a child to be
> lectured by some self-important MVP.
>
> Romane
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the update.
>> In the future, please respond in the same thread that you started.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>>
>>
>> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:Om8m%23Z$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> Have spent some time digging, and though still very frustrated by Vista
>>> in general (and still seriously considering dumping it altogether for
>>> Linux, which would be regretful as there are some very good points in
>>> Vista), have resolved the issue I posted about below. The sender of some
>>> of my emails has been sending these links with the redirection to the
>>> "Outlook Web Access" server included in their emails. Have written to
>>> them requesting that they change their process, as these particular
>>> emails go to a huge selection of recipients, none of whom have access to
>>> this persons server.
>>>
>>> Romane
>>>
>>>
>>> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:uXaRRO$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Good morning
>>>>
>>>> I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up
>>>> till today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its
>>>> flaws). Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email,
>>>> something I do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of
>>>> taking me to the web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page,
>>>> and could go no further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in
>>>> my settings for months, and installed no new software in ages, so it
>>>> looks like it is one of those many updates that Microsoft makes that is
>>>> the culprit.
>>>>
>>>> I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how
>>>> I get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel
>>>> happier, consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this
>>>> is just one more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is
>>>> slowly driving me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they
>>>> once had from me and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.
>>>>
>>>> All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone
>>>> dead, so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone
>>>> tell me where to find the setting?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new"
>>>> live mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to
>>>> just log on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web
>>>> site, and want no part of what is no more than just another layer of
>>>> interference, and *most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.
>>>>
>>>> And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of
>>>> Windows I stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.
>>>>
>>>> Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting
>>>> your bandwidth as it won't be read.
>>>>
>>>> Romane
>>>>
>>>
>

That should be: knickers in a twist.

knickers = pants (underpants)
twist = irritatingly bunched up

"Don't get your knickers in a twist" = "don't get bent out of shape, etc."


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Gary
>
> Many thanks for the chastisement - unneeded, unasked for, unwarranted and one
> I find personally offensive. My response was made as a reply to my own
> original posting, and if your reader system gets its twisteds in a nicker,
> please do use that as an excuse to berate me - I am not a child to be lectured
> by some self-important MVP.
>
> Romane
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Thanks for the update.
>> In the future, please respond in the same thread that you started.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>>
>>
>> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:Om8m%23Z$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Good morning
>>>
>>> Have spent some time digging, and though still very frustrated by Vista in
>>> general (and still seriously considering dumping it altogether for Linux,
>>> which would be regretful as there are some very good points in Vista), have
>>> resolved the issue I posted about below. The sender of some of my emails has
>>> been sending these links with the redirection to the "Outlook Web Access"
>>> server included in their emails. Have written to them requesting that they
>>> change their process, as these particular emails go to a huge selection of
>>> recipients, none of whom have access to this persons server.
>>>
>>> Romane
>>>
>>>
>>> "Romane" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:uXaRRO$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Good morning
>>>>
>>>> I am running Visa Ultimate, using the built-in Mail program, which, up till
>>>> today I quite liked and have been very happy with (regardless its flaws).
>>>> Today when I tried to access a site via a hyperlink in an email, something
>>>> I do almost every day for a multitude of reasons, instead of taking me to
>>>> the web page, I was taken to a "Outlook Web Access" page, and could go no
>>>> further without a login. Now, I have made no changes in my settings for
>>>> months, and installed no new software in ages, so it looks like it is one
>>>> of those many updates that Microsoft makes that is the culprit.
>>>>
>>>> I could rant, once more Microsoft tries to determine where I go and how I
>>>> get there, but what is the point. You may, if it makes you feel happier,
>>>> consider me just another disgruntled Microsoft user, but this is just one
>>>> more step in the regression called Microsoft Windows that is slowly driving
>>>> me up the wall and may yet destroy the loyalty that they once had from me
>>>> and force me to reluctantly abandon Microsoft forever.
>>>>
>>>> All I want to do at this point is kill this part of Windows mail stone
>>>> dead, so I can click a link and go directly to the website. Can anyone tell
>>>> me where to find the setting?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to tell me that this is all part of their "wonderful" "new"
>>>> live mail - forget it. I have no interest in in it. And don't tell me to
>>>> just log on - *I* decide, not Microsoft, how and when I access a web site,
>>>> and want no part of what is no more than just another layer of
>>>> interference, and *most especially* a layer that is forced onto me.
>>>>
>>>> And if it can't be changed, then it will be just one more part of Windows I
>>>> stop using, and Thunderbird - here I come.
>>>>
>>>> Constructive replies only please. Anything else, you are just wasting your
>>>> bandwidth as it won't be read.
>>>>
>>>> Romane
>>>>
>>>
>

Gary

My apologies for my testiness are offered to you.

Mail is, as well as my email program, my newsgroup reader, and yes, I always
sort by subject. My reply appeared immediately beneath and slightly indented
from the original posting on my display. Looking at this thread as it stands
now, I see every response below its parent and indented by one further
measure (accompanied by the relevant '-' signs to close a level).

Obviously, going by your reply below, either not all readers do the same, or
other users have their setting made differently. Unfortunately, if replying
to a post does not place it in its proper place within that thread on
another persons display, there is nothing that I can do about that.

Romane


"Gary VanderMolen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Understood, but most of the users here just sort by Subject line.
> For the purpose of this newsgroup it is better to accommodate the
> lowest common denominator. ;-)
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>
>

(laughing) that was no getting my words accidently awry - the phrasing was
quite deliberate, and it is up to you to work out what you want to think of
as a 'twisted' (which can be quite uncomfortable in your 'knicker' if you
choose the wrong thing).

People often shake their heads at me for my sense of humour. It has come to
be expected

Romane

"Cal Bear '66" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:F3837D1C-FA26-40B6-91F2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> That should be: knickers in a twist.
>
> knickers = pants (underpants)
> twist = irritatingly bunched up
>
> "Don't get your knickers in a twist" = "don't get bent out of shape, etc."
>
>
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>