After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and form
interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design programming
techniques.

There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me as
to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there. Maybe a
brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand their
capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.

asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????

Thanks a lot.
EdH

Hi,
You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing because
you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows server in which
case
asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might
take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
sql - you will need to know this

--
Cheers,
Jon
Microsoft MVP

"EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
> form
> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
> programming
> techniques.
>
> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me as
> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there. Maybe
> a
> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand their
> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>
> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>
> Thanks a lot.
> EdH
>

I'm almost in total agreement with Jon, except for the comparison of ASP to
ASP.Net. I would say it's more like stepping from a BMW to a Boeing 747, and
just as hard a transition to make! ;-)

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Sometimes you eat the elephant.
Sometimes the elephant eats you.

"Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing
> because you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows server
> in which case
> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might
> take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
> sql - you will need to know this
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jon
> Microsoft MVP
>
> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
>> form
>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
>> programming
>> techniques.
>>
>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me
>> as
>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there.
>> Maybe a
>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand
>> their
>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>
>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> EdH
>>
>
>

"Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...

> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows

A very small diffenrence of opinion......

Yes but all servers are not windows and a heck of a lot of the less
expensive hosting companines, if not 75 - 90% of them are nix machines. So
it is probably not to be ignored. I did for a long time and I am no longer
as I lost some work not knowing it and that will not happen any more!

Here is an interesting article I saw today....

Language of computer hobbyists hits the big time
http://news.com.com/Language+of+comp...5448&subj=news

Actually, IIS can run PHP....

At least I think it can.

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Murray
============

"Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing
> because you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows server
> in which case
> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might
> take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
> sql - you will need to know this
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jon
> Microsoft MVP
>
> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
>> form
>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
>> programming
>> techniques.
>>
>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me
>> as
>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there.
>> Maybe a
>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand
>> their
>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>
>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>> EdH
>>
>
>

All of the major technologies can be run under a Window 2000/2003 Servers with the appropriate
service installed.

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==============================================
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"Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Actually, IIS can run PHP....
>
> At least I think it can.
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing because you already have a
>> dynamic site going you're on a windows server in which case
>> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
>> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
>> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
>> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might take a morning to
>> learn. It will be a morning well spent
>> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
>> sql - you will need to know this
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>> Microsoft MVP
>>
>> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and form
>>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design programming
>>> techniques.
>>>
>>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me as
>>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there. Maybe a
>>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand their
>>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>>
>>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>> EdH
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Hi Jon et al. Thanks for good responses to broad question!

I think I'll start with asp and javascript and sql. And I forgot to mention
Virtual Basic or VBscript, are they worth it, or will I have enough with the
others?

Thanks again,
Ed

"Jon Spivey" wrote:

> Hi,
> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing because
> you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows server in which
> case
> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might
> take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
> sql - you will need to know this
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jon
> Microsoft MVP
>
> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
> > form
> > interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
> > programming
> > techniques.
> >
> > There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me as
> > to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there. Maybe
> > a
> > brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand their
> > capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
> >
> > asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> > EdH
> >
>
>
>

Yes it can. But why would you want to? If you've got a windows server, a
copy of Visual Studio, a SQL Server database and asp.net you can do anything
you'd ever want to do with a web site - the rest is up to you :-)

--
Cheers,
Jon
Microsoft MVP

"Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Actually, IIS can run PHP....
>
> At least I think it can.
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing
>> because you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows server
>> in which case
>> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
>> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
>> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
>> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript
>> might take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
>> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
>> sql - you will need to know this
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>> Microsoft MVP
>>
>> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
>>> form
>>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
>>> programming
>>> techniques.
>>>
>>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me
>>> as
>>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there.
>>> Maybe a
>>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand
>>> their
>>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>>
>>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>> EdH
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

You can also do the same by starting with ASP/VBscript and Access and then have the ability to move
up to .Net and/or MS SQL when needed.

If you start with PHP, CFM, etc. you are kind of stuck with them, unless you want to complete start
over, since they don't currently have a migration path to more advanced versions.

--
==============================================
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WebMaster Resources(tm)
http://www.ycoln-resources.com
FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
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==============================================

"Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yes it can. But why would you want to? If you've got a windows server, a copy of Visual Studio, a
> SQL Server database and asp.net you can do anything you'd ever want to do with a web site - the
> rest is up to you :-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Jon
> Microsoft MVP
>
> "Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Actually, IIS can run PHP....
>>
>> At least I think it can.
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Hi,
>>> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing because you already have a
>>> dynamic site going you're on a windows server in which case
>>> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
>>> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
>>> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
>>> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript might take a morning to
>>> learn. It will be a morning well spent
>>> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
>>> sql - you will need to know this
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jon
>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>
>>> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and form
>>>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design programming
>>>> techniques.
>>>>
>>>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten me as
>>>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there. Maybe a
>>>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand their
>>>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>>>
>>>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>> EdH
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Well, CF is really all you'd need - there is no 'advanced' version. It's a
mighty cool tag-based language and so quite different than ASP, or PHP....

--
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============

"Thomas A. Rowe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You can also do the same by starting with ASP/VBscript and Access and then
> have the ability to move up to .Net and/or MS SQL when needed.
>
> If you start with PHP, CFM, etc. you are kind of stuck with them, unless
> you want to complete start over, since they don't currently have a
> migration path to more advanced versions.
>
> --
> ==============================================
> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> WebMaster Resources(tm)
> http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
> Microsoft Product Support Services:
> http://support.microsoft.com
> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
> ==============================================
>
> "Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Yes it can. But why would you want to? If you've got a windows server, a
>> copy of Visual Studio, a SQL Server database and asp.net you can do
>> anything you'd ever want to do with a web site - the rest is up to you
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>> Microsoft MVP
>>
>> "Murray" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Actually, IIS can run PHP....
>>>
>>> At least I think it can.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Murray
>>> ============
>>>
>>> "Jon Spivey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:eYXm3g$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> You get the prize for broadest question of the day :-) I'm guessing
>>>> because you already have a dynamic site going you're on a windows
>>>> server in which case
>>>> asp - easy to learn and can do most of what you'd ever want
>>>> asp.net - like stepping from a BMW to a Ferrari
>>>> java - forget it, not well supported in browsers
>>>> javascript - client side, if you can program any language javascript
>>>> might take a morning to learn. It will be a morning well spent
>>>> php - forget it., doesn't (usually) run on windows
>>>> sql - you will need to know this
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jon
>>>> Microsoft MVP
>>>>
>>>> "EdH" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:6D130D91-8264-420E-985E-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> After painstakingly creating my first FP dynamic website (database and
>>>>> form
>>>>> interfaces) I am ready to learn some more advanced website design
>>>>> programming
>>>>> techniques.
>>>>>
>>>>> There seem to be a dozen technologies out there. Could you enlighten
>>>>> me as
>>>>> to which are the best web design/programming technologies out there.
>>>>> Maybe a
>>>>> brief definition of what is what would help us all better understand
>>>>> their
>>>>> capabilities and how they complement/enhance FP.
>>>>>
>>>>> asp - asp.net - java - javascript - DHTML - php - SQL - others ??????
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>>> EdH
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>