I have ordered an artic cooler for my 9800 Pro. Will I lose the use of one
PCI slot with this? Are the supplied instructions easy to follow or is
there a good guide to follow?

Thanks

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On Wed, 19 May 2004 00:40:14 +0100, "KerplunKuK"
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>I have ordered an artic cooler for my 9800 Pro. Will I lose the use of one
>PCI slot with this? Are the supplied instructions easy to follow or is
>there a good guide to follow?

Yes you do lose a slot but hadn't you already lost one with the
original fan anyway? Installation is simple enough although a little
nerve racking if you stop to think about the consequences of making a
hash of it.
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"Julian Richards" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Yes you do lose a slot but hadn't you already lost one with the
> original fan anyway? Installation is simple enough

No I did not lose a slot. I have a network card below the VGA card, so it
does not take up much room. Would I still be able to fit the network card
in? It literally is 1.5cm deep?
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"KerplunKuK" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Julian Richards" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> > Yes you do lose a slot but hadn't you already lost one with the
> > original fan anyway? Installation is simple enough
>
> No I did not lose a slot. I have a network card below the VGA card, so it
> does not take up much room. Would I still be able to fit the network card
> in? It literally is 1.5cm deep?
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> Victoria Concordia Crescit
>
Nope.

KerplunKuK wrote:
> I have ordered an artic cooler for my 9800 Pro. Will I lose the use
> of one PCI slot with this? Are the supplied instructions easy to
> follow or is there a good guide to follow?
>
> Thanks

The instructions are easy. The only things you can do wrong are
- overtighten the screws that hold the cooler on (you only need to tighten until the clip starts to
bend and the cooler seems firm, and not as 'far as it will go'), or
- attempt to remove the shim around the GPU (bad move)

You wont be able to use the PCI slot next to the AGP port after the artic is fitted.


S

"Sham B" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> KerplunKuK wrote:
> > I have ordered an artic cooler for my 9800 Pro. Will I lose the use
> > of one PCI slot with this? Are the supplied instructions easy to
> > follow or is there a good guide to follow?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> The instructions are easy. The only things you can do wrong are
> - overtighten the screws that hold the cooler on (you only need to tighten
until the clip starts to
> bend and the cooler seems firm, and not as 'far as it will go'), or
> - attempt to remove the shim around the GPU (bad move)
>
> You wont be able to use the PCI slot next to the AGP port after the artic
is fitted.
>
>
> S
>
>

Arguably:

Putting an Arctic cooler on **without** removing the shim
is wasting your good money, unless you are one of the few
where too much solder paste was placed when mounting the
GPU on the board, in which case the top of the core and the
shim will be level and even. Otherwise there will be a nasty
gap between the shim and the top of the core which will remain
when you mount your Arctic Cooler, significantly decreasing
or negating the cooling efficiency improvement. Filling the space
with goo, goop or chuzz won't help much either.

The Arctic Cooler also comes with serious concentric machining
marks on the contact plate. I would read up on how to "lap" the
contact plate smooth to take these off and spend the couple hours
it takes to eliminate them as this will increase contact to core thermal
transfer efficiency.

Lastly, the top of the GPU, once you get your heatsink off,
will have a bunch of "flyspecK" sized SMT devices scattered around
on it. I suggest covering these devices with a thin film of gell type
superglue to protect them damage and also from potentuallty shorting
to your heat sink (if mounted without the shim).

Slip a razor under the shim and gently pry and it will pop right off,
pick your spot and be careful not to cut any traces of course.

The AC is a nice unit when properly installed. Good luck.


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What is this "shim" everyone keeps talking about ?


On Wed, 19 May 2004 07:46:05 -0400, "Mudfish\(Co30\)"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Sham B" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:40ab1e6b$0$2315$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> KerplunKuK wrote:
>> > I have ordered an artic cooler for my 9800 Pro. Will I lose the use
>> > of one PCI slot with this? Are the supplied instructions easy to
>> > follow or is there a good guide to follow?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>> The instructions are easy. The only things you can do wrong are
>> - overtighten the screws that hold the cooler on (you only need to tighten
>until the clip starts to
>> bend and the cooler seems firm, and not as 'far as it will go'), or
>> - attempt to remove the shim around the GPU (bad move)
>>
>> You wont be able to use the PCI slot next to the AGP port after the artic
>is fitted.
>>
>>
>> S
>>
>>
>
>Arguably:
>
>Putting an Arctic cooler on **without** removing the shim
>is wasting your good money, unless you are one of the few
>where too much solder paste was placed when mounting the
>GPU on the board, in which case the top of the core and the
>shim will be level and even. Otherwise there will be a nasty
>gap between the shim and the top of the core which will remain
>when you mount your Arctic Cooler, significantly decreasing
>or negating the cooling efficiency improvement. Filling the space
>with goo, goop or chuzz won't help much either.
>
>The Arctic Cooler also comes with serious concentric machining
>marks on the contact plate. I would read up on how to "lap" the
>contact plate smooth to take these off and spend the couple hours
>it takes to eliminate them as this will increase contact to core thermal
>transfer efficiency.
>
>Lastly, the top of the GPU, once you get your heatsink off,
>will have a bunch of "flyspecK" sized SMT devices scattered around
>on it. I suggest covering these devices with a thin film of gell type
>superglue to protect them damage and also from potentuallty shorting
>to your heat sink (if mounted without the shim).
>
>Slip a razor under the shim and gently pry and it will pop right off,
>pick your spot and be careful not to cut any traces of course.
>
>The AC is a nice unit when properly installed. Good luck.

Thank you for spelling Arctic correctly. The semi-literates before you were
shitting me.

On Thu, 20 May 2004 00:34:15 -0700, killer bee wrote:

>
>What is this "shim" everyone keeps talking about ?
>
>

The shim is a square plate which fits over the GPU so it provides support when
fitting the heatsink... it trys to ensure the core is not damaged in the event
uneven pressure is applied to the core itself.

Some ATI 9800 Pro cards and no doubt other cards too have the shim fitted on the
high side so in effect the shim is preventing the heatsink from making a good
contact with the core.
The original ATI heatsink had a slightly raised centre which ensured good
contact, however the Arctic Cooler is dead flat so if the shim was slightly
higher than the core one may end up with a slight gap between the core and the
heatsink, and in such cases the shim would need to be removed.

On my 9800 Pro the shim is exactly the same height as the core so it was
un-necessary to remove the shim.

Regards

Mike

"jamie anderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thank you for spelling Arctic correctly. The semi-literates before you
were
> shitting me.

But there is "Arctic Silver" and "Artic Silver"

Both exist and they are not the same thing.