I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no proper
responses...

Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into the
Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before ALL
area codes?

Example Screen Shots in order....

http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg

http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg

http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg

Big Question - WHY?
If you are calling within the US, then most likely you need to include a 1
before a long distance call. The 1 tells the phone system that you are
calling outside of your area code. It used to be the 2nd number was limited
to [0,1] for area codes and [2-9] for prefixes. However, with the need for
more phone numbers, they changed things to just a 1 as the first number
means long distance.

Windows determines it is a long distance call by looking at the full number
you are calling (415) 555-1212 and the number from your Phone /Modem options
(830) and deciding they are different and therefore a long distance call.
If you are calling a number with the same AC as your settings, then it will
not put in the number.

It doesn't cause problems (other than maybe more beeps when it dials). Some
of our users use Earthlink for Dialup. Instead of loading the Earthlink
software, we just create a dial-up connection (j20-30 Meg and causes
conflicts) and put in the numbers we think they will need. We also include
instructions for them to be able to change the phone number they call. This
they can do as an average user. The Earthlink Software requires them to be a
member of Administrators, which is against our policy. We have the numbers
programmed in and we include a comment indicating where that number is for.
When you hover over the number, it will tell you where it is for. The
listing deeper into the dial-up will list the number and the location, as
such:
14155551212 - San Francisco
18305551212 - Monterey
918305551212 - Monterey 9 First (Like in a Hotel)

Similarly, you (probably) program your cell phone to include 1 and the AC on
your phone numbers in your address book. If you are in that area code, no
problem. If you are out of that AC, then it dials properly and, again, no
problem.

"Mark B" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:59337BAA-FC27-4AB4-BD51-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no
>proper
> responses...
>
> Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
> through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into
> the
> Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
> Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before
> ALL
> area codes?
>
> Example Screen Shots in order....
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg
>

Frankly Scarlett wrote:
> Big Question - WHY?
> If you are calling within the US, then most likely you need to
> include a 1 before a long distance call. The 1 tells the phone system
> that you are calling outside of your area code. It used to be the 2nd
> number was limited to [0,1] for area codes and [2-9] for prefixes.
> However, with the need for more phone numbers, they changed things to
> just a 1 as the first number means long distance.
>
> Windows determines it is a long distance call by looking at the full
> number you are calling (415) 555-1212 and the number from your Phone
> /Modem options (830) and deciding they are different and therefore a
> long distance call. If you are calling a number with the same AC as
> your settings, then it will not put in the number.
>
> It doesn't cause problems (other than maybe more beeps when it
> dials). Some of our users use Earthlink for Dialup. Instead of
> loading the Earthlink software, we just create a dial-up connection
> (j20-30 Meg and causes conflicts) and put in the numbers we think
> they will need. We also include instructions for them to be able to
> change the phone number they call. This they can do as an average
> user. The Earthlink Software requires them to be a member of
> Administrators, which is against our policy. We have the numbers
> programmed in and we include a comment indicating where that number
> is for. When you hover over the number, it will tell you where it is
> for. The listing deeper into the dial-up will list the number and the
> location, as such: 14155551212 - San Francisco
> 18305551212 - Monterey
> 918305551212 - Monterey 9 First (Like in a Hotel)
>
> Similarly, you (probably) program your cell phone to include 1 and
> the AC on your phone numbers in your address book. If you are in that
> area code, no problem. If you are out of that AC, then it dials
> properly and, again, no problem.
>

Not true.

I'm in a city with multiple area codes (Houston). My 'phone number begins
with area code 713. If I try to dial another number within the city, say,
832-555-1212 by placing a "1" in front of the number, I get an intercept
with the message "It is not necessary to dial one before the number. Please
try your call again," then a disconnect.

To further complicate the issue, my VoIP lines don't care whether I put a
"1" in front of the number. If I want to call New York, whether I dial
"1212555...." or "212555...." is immaterial.

Perhaps this "workaround"? and just use "FG" for all catagories and then
use the fake "calling card" to make all calls?

How to Create Custom Calling Card Rules
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167220/EN-US/

Mark B wrote:
> I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no proper
> responses...
>
> Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
> through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into the
> Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
> Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before ALL
> area codes?
>
> Example Screen Shots in order....
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg
>
> http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg
>

Not sure why I cant just have someone answer the question, but if you are
just dying to know WHY, the reason is our users have placed too many 911
calls by mistake and we've set up our phone system to prepend the 1
automatically, so with Windows ALSO prepending 1 to every long distance call,
dialing does not work through Outlook.

OK, there it is, hope that makes everyone happy. Can I please get an answer
to my question?



"Frankly Scarlett" wrote:

> Big Question - WHY?
> If you are calling within the US, then most likely you need to include a 1
> before a long distance call. The 1 tells the phone system that you are
> calling outside of your area code. It used to be the 2nd number was limited
> to [0,1] for area codes and [2-9] for prefixes. However, with the need for
> more phone numbers, they changed things to just a 1 as the first number
> means long distance.
>
> Windows determines it is a long distance call by looking at the full number
> you are calling (415) 555-1212 and the number from your Phone /Modem options
> (830) and deciding they are different and therefore a long distance call.
> If you are calling a number with the same AC as your settings, then it will
> not put in the number.
>
> It doesn't cause problems (other than maybe more beeps when it dials). Some
> of our users use Earthlink for Dialup. Instead of loading the Earthlink
> software, we just create a dial-up connection (j20-30 Meg and causes
> conflicts) and put in the numbers we think they will need. We also include
> instructions for them to be able to change the phone number they call. This
> they can do as an average user. The Earthlink Software requires them to be a
> member of Administrators, which is against our policy. We have the numbers
> programmed in and we include a comment indicating where that number is for.
> When you hover over the number, it will tell you where it is for. The
> listing deeper into the dial-up will list the number and the location, as
> such:
> 14155551212 - San Francisco
> 18305551212 - Monterey
> 918305551212 - Monterey 9 First (Like in a Hotel)
>
> Similarly, you (probably) program your cell phone to include 1 and the AC on
> your phone numbers in your address book. If you are in that area code, no
> problem. If you are out of that AC, then it dials properly and, again, no
> problem.
>
> "Mark B" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:59337BAA-FC27-4AB4-BD51-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no
> >proper
> > responses...
> >
> > Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
> > through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into
> > the
> > Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
> > Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before
> > ALL
> > area codes?
> >
> > Example Screen Shots in order....
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg
> >
>
>
>

WOW I think this worked!

Even though that webpage you sent me too ha sthe wrong steps for WIndows XP,
I think I figured it out, and it is working! I need to test some more, and
then try it on my boss's computer (oh joy) but WOW that seems to be working!

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



"Bob I" wrote:

> Perhaps this "workaround"? and just use "FG" for all catagories and then
> use the fake "calling card" to make all calls?
>
> How to Create Custom Calling Card Rules
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167220/EN-US/
>
> Mark B wrote:
> > I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no proper
> > responses...
> >
> > Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
> > through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into the
> > Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
> > Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before ALL
> > area codes?
> >
> > Example Screen Shots in order....
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg
> >
> > http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg
> >
>
>

You're welcome, I didn't find a "XP" specific workaround, but the
procedure was similar. So I hope it works out satisfactorily.

Mark B wrote:

> WOW I think this worked!
>
> Even though that webpage you sent me too ha sthe wrong steps for WIndows XP,
> I think I figured it out, and it is working! I need to test some more, and
> then try it on my boss's computer (oh joy) but WOW that seems to be working!
>
> THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Bob I" wrote:
>
>
>>Perhaps this "workaround"? and just use "FG" for all catagories and then
>> use the fake "calling card" to make all calls?
>>
>>How to Create Custom Calling Card Rules
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167220/EN-US/
>>
>>Mark B wrote:
>>
>>>I will try this again with Screenshots, since my first attempt got no proper
>>>responses...
>>>
>>>Seems Windows, by default, forces a 1 before every area code when dialing
>>>through Oulook, for example. Other than adding every US area code into the
>>>Area Code Rules of the Dialing Properties and unchecking the Dial 1 Before
>>>Area Code box, is there any way to get windows to stop dialing 1 before ALL
>>>area codes?
>>>
>>>Example Screen Shots in order....
>>>
>>>http://njycamps.org/temp/1.jpg
>>>
>>>http://njycamps.org/temp/2.jpg
>>>
>>>http://njycamps.org/temp/3.jpg
>>>
>>
>>