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Appying para styles overrides character formatting - sometimes

 
 
Paul B.
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      11th Jun 2010
Hi,

I'm trying to figure out the rationale here. In Word '03 on WinXP,
when I press CTRL-A and then the hotkey for a paragraph style, I lose
all existing character mark-up, such as bold, colors, etc.

But if the cursor is in a paragraph and I invoke the new paragraph
style, the existing character mark-up is preserved.

It would be nice if there is a way to apply styles to selected text
without changing existing font mark-up, and indeed, my memory tells me
I have done this before. But it doesn't happen with CTRL-A, and I'm
trying to figure out what's going on and how I might get around this
behavior.

Thanks,
p.
 
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Stefan Blom
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      11th Jun 2010
As you apply a style, direct formatting will be preserved if it has been applied
to less than 50% of the text in the paragraph.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
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"Paul B." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:054a04b4-77b7-486b-96bc-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to figure out the rationale here. In Word '03 on WinXP,
> when I press CTRL-A and then the hotkey for a paragraph style, I lose
> all existing character mark-up, such as bold, colors, etc.
>
> But if the cursor is in a paragraph and I invoke the new paragraph
> style, the existing character mark-up is preserved.
>
> It would be nice if there is a way to apply styles to selected text
> without changing existing font mark-up, and indeed, my memory tells me
> I have done this before. But it doesn't happen with CTRL-A, and I'm
> trying to figure out what's going on and how I might get around this
> behavior.
>
> Thanks,
> p.



 
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Paul B.
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      11th Jun 2010
Ok, then, I see the problem. The text that I dropped into the document
was virtually all non-standard, in that its size that differed from
the Normal style. So the 50% Rule kicked in.

I note, however, that that rule applies only when the paragraph is
Selected. If the cursor is merely Inserted, the mark-up is preserved,
while basic font characteristics, like size, are changed to conform to
the new style. And that's basically just how I would like it. So I
guess the way to get at this is a macro to proceed through the
paragraphs and change them one by one.

Thanks,
p.

On Jun 11, 2:47*pm, "Stefan Blom"
<StefanB...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> As you apply a style, direct formatting will be preserved if it has been applied
> to less than 50% of the text in the paragraph.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
> (Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)
>
> "Paul B." <pb_pub...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:054a04b4-77b7-486b-96bc-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Hi,

>
> > I'm trying to figure out the rationale here. In Word '03 on WinXP,
> > when I press CTRL-A and then the hotkey for a paragraph style, I lose
> > all existing character mark-up, such as bold, colors, etc.

>
> > But if the cursor is in a paragraph and I invoke the new paragraph
> > style, the existing character mark-up is preserved.

>
> > It would be nice if there is a way to apply styles to selected text
> > without changing existing font mark-up, and indeed, my memory tells me
> > I have done this before. But it doesn't happen with CTRL-A, and I'm
> > trying to figure out what's going on and how I might get around this
> > behavior.

>
> > Thanks,
> > p.


 
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Stefan Blom
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      12th Jun 2010
> I note, however, that that rule applies only when the paragraph is
> Selected. If the cursor is merely Inserted, the mark-up is preserved,
> while basic font characteristics, like size, are changed to conform to
> the new style. And that's basically just how I would like it. So I
> guess the way to get at this is a macro to proceed through the
> paragraphs and change them one by one.


Interesting! I can't reproduce the behavior you are describing, though. If more
than 50% of a paragraph has direct formatting, that formatting is cleared when I
apply a paragraph style, no matter if the paragraph is selected or not.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
(Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)



"Paul B." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:13491fa5-4718-46e7-9c39-(E-Mail Removed)...
Ok, then, I see the problem. The text that I dropped into the document
was virtually all non-standard, in that its size that differed from
the Normal style. So the 50% Rule kicked in.

I note, however, that that rule applies only when the paragraph is
Selected. If the cursor is merely Inserted, the mark-up is preserved,
while basic font characteristics, like size, are changed to conform to
the new style. And that's basically just how I would like it. So I
guess the way to get at this is a macro to proceed through the
paragraphs and change them one by one.

Thanks,
p.

On Jun 11, 2:47 pm, "Stefan Blom"
<StefanB...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> As you apply a style, direct formatting will be preserved if it has been
> applied
> to less than 50% of the text in the paragraph.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
> (Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)
>
> "Paul B." <pb_pub...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:054a04b4-77b7-486b-96bc-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>
>
> > Hi,

>
> > I'm trying to figure out the rationale here. In Word '03 on WinXP,
> > when I press CTRL-A and then the hotkey for a paragraph style, I lose
> > all existing character mark-up, such as bold, colors, etc.

>
> > But if the cursor is in a paragraph and I invoke the new paragraph
> > style, the existing character mark-up is preserved.

>
> > It would be nice if there is a way to apply styles to selected text
> > without changing existing font mark-up, and indeed, my memory tells me
> > I have done this before. But it doesn't happen with CTRL-A, and I'm
> > trying to figure out what's going on and how I might get around this
> > behavior.

>
> > Thanks,
> > p.





 
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Paul B.
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      15th Jun 2010
Thanks, Stefan. I need to give this more attention. I'm not 100% sure
what's going on. If I find something I'll tack it on here.

Thanks much,
p.

On Jun 12, 3:38*pm, "Stefan Blom"
<StefanB...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > I note, however, that that rule applies only when the paragraph is
> > Selected. If the cursor is merely Inserted, the mark-up is preserved,
> > while basic font characteristics, like size, are changed to conform to
> > the new style. And that's basically just how I would like it. So I
> > guess the way to get at this is a macro to proceed through the
> > paragraphs and change them one by one.

>
> Interesting! I can't reproduce the behavior you are describing, though. If more
> than 50% of a paragraph has direct formatting, that formatting is clearedwhen I
> apply a paragraph style, no matter if the paragraph is selected or not.
>
> --
> Stefan Blom
> Microsoft Word MVP
> (Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)
>
> "Paul B." <pb_pub...@operamail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:13491fa5-4718-46e7-9c39-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok, then, I see the problem. The text that I dropped into the document
> was virtually all non-standard, in that its size that differed from
> the Normal style. So the 50% Rule kicked in.
>
> I note, however, that that rule applies only when the paragraph is
> Selected. If the cursor is merely Inserted, the mark-up is preserved,
> while basic font characteristics, like size, are changed to conform to
> the new style. And that's basically just how I would like it. So I
> guess the way to get at this is a macro to proceed through the
> paragraphs and change them one by one.
>
> Thanks,
> p.
>
> On Jun 11, 2:47 pm, "Stefan Blom"
>
>
>
> <StefanB...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > As you apply a style, direct formatting will be preserved if it has been
> > applied
> > to less than 50% of the text in the paragraph.

>
> > --
> > Stefan Blom
> > Microsoft Word MVP
> > (Message posted via news.eternal-september.org)

>
> > "Paul B." <pb_pub...@operamail.com> wrote in message

>
> >news:054a04b4-77b7-486b-96bc-(E-Mail Removed)...

>
> > > Hi,

>
> > > I'm trying to figure out the rationale here. In Word '03 on WinXP,
> > > when I press CTRL-A and then the hotkey for a paragraph style, I lose
> > > all existing character mark-up, such as bold, colors, etc.

>
> > > But if the cursor is in a paragraph and I invoke the new paragraph
> > > style, the existing character mark-up is preserved.

>
> > > It would be nice if there is a way to apply styles to selected text
> > > without changing existing font mark-up, and indeed, my memory tells me
> > > I have done this before. But it doesn't happen with CTRL-A, and I'm
> > > trying to figure out what's going on and how I might get around this
> > > behavior.

>
> > > Thanks,
> > > p.


 
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