http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/li...pa-supporters/
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Bear <bearbottoms1+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:4f16080e$0$282$14726298
@news.sunsite.dk:

> http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/li...pa-supporters/

Boycott them, vote with your wallet! SOPA is BAD for everyone. It's
disguised to stop piracy, but it's going to do alot more!


--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

On 1/18/2012 7:18 PM, Dustin wrote:
> Bear<bearbottoms1+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:4f16080e$0$282$14726298
> @news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/li...pa-supporters/
>
> Boycott them, vote with your wallet! SOPA is BAD for everyone. It's
> disguised to stop piracy, but it's going to do alot more!
>
>
I agree Dustin. This is the biggest threat to freedom I've seen since
I've been on Earth. It's got to stop somewhere...people need to wake up
before we all lose what precious little we have left.

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Dustin wrote:

>Bear <bearbottoms1+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:4f16080e$0$282$14726298
>@news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/li...pa-supporters/
>
>Boycott them, vote with your wallet! SOPA is BAD for everyone. It's
>disguised to stop piracy, but it's going to do alot more!

If it becomes law I'm giving up all hope for our nation.

G. Morgan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Dustin wrote:
>
>>Bear <bearbottoms1+(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:4f16080e$0$282$14726298
>>@news.sunsite.dk:
>>
>>> http://venturebeat.com/2011/12/22/li...pa-supporters/
>>
>>Boycott them, vote with your wallet! SOPA is BAD for everyone. It's
>>disguised to stop piracy, but it's going to do alot more!
>
> If it becomes law I'm giving up all hope for our nation.
>
>

It seems to be losing out, Some of the supporters aren't supporting it
publically now thanks to the thousands of websites which went offline and
redirected persons to contact their elected officials.

Both of those laws are a stopgap measure to allow a small minority total
and complete control of the net. The "lets stop piracy" was the rally cry,
but the law is far more sinister.


--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

Per Dustin:
>thanks to the thousands of websites which went offline and
>redirected persons to contact their elected officials.

I liked Wikipedia's approach - but now that you have said it a
location-sensitive redirect to one's elected officials would have
been an impressive extra touch.

>Both of those laws are a stopgap measure to allow a small minority total
>and complete control of the net. The "lets stop piracy" was the rally cry,
>but the law is far more sinister.

"The best government that money can buy."
--
Pete Cresswell

In article <4f17795c$0$285$(E-Mail Removed)>, bearbottoms1
+(E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> I agree Dustin. This is the biggest threat to freedom I've seen since
> I've been on Earth. It's got to stop somewhere...people need to wake up
> before we all lose what precious little we have left.


Then you must not have been on earth for very long. I would say that
the "Patriot Act", the "war on drugs", the Soviet Union in it's heyday,
and McCarthy and his ilk, were all far larger threats to freedom. As far
as "what little we have left", have you ever lived outside of the
western world (US, Canada, Australia and Europe)? If not, I highly
recommend it! Spending a few months living (and by that I do NOT mean
living in a luxury, tourist hotel) in one of the poorer nations in
Africa, Latin America or Asia can be an eye opening experience. Getting
to know some of the locals and talking to them about their hopes,
aspirations and dreams can really be enlightening. It gives you some
perspective to judge things from.

I do agree with it being a very bad law and have contacted my Congress
critters to let them know my opinion. I stop short, however, at amping
up the hyperbole that some have put forth. Personally, I'm tired of the
theatrics on both sides of (seemingly) every issue these days.

That's just my 2 cents worth.... Having said that, I'll return to
lurking and trying to stay out of off-topic discussions.


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On 1/19/2012 7:27 AM, Whoever wrote:
> In article<4f17795c$0$285$(E-Mail Removed)>, bearbottoms1
> +(E-Mail Removed) says...
>>
>> I agree Dustin. This is the biggest threat to freedom I've seen since
>> I've been on Earth. It's got to stop somewhere...people need to wake up
>> before we all lose what precious little we have left.
>
>
> Then you must not have been on earth for very long. I would say that
> the "Patriot Act",

Not IMO

the "war on drugs",

Close

the Soviet Union in it's heyday,
They would have tried and lost

> and McCarthy and his ilk,
Not IMO...this is a direct threat to everyone in the US regarding
changing the Internet forever, probably the single most important medium
man has ever had.

were all far larger threats to freedom. As far
> as "what little we have left", have you ever lived outside of the
> western world (US, Canada, Australia and Europe)?
Yes. I spent a career traveling and living around the world as an
Airline Pilot and 17 years in the Navy as a Navy Pilot.

If not, I highly
> recommend it! Spending a few months living (and by that I do NOT mean
> living in a luxury, tourist hotel) in one of the poorer nations in
> Africa, Latin America or Asia can be an eye opening experience.
I've lived in all of those places and more and spent many months with
happier people living on dirt floors than anyone in the affluent
neighborhoods in America...open one of those home doors and you hear
nothing.
Getting
> to know some of the locals and talking to them about their hopes,
> aspirations and dreams can really be enlightening. It gives you some
> perspective to judge things from.
I think your experiences there would be dwarfed by my own and your
assumptions would be dashed.
>
> I do agree with it being a very bad law and have contacted my Congress
> critters to let them know my opinion. I stop short, however, at amping
> up the hyperbole that some have put forth. Personally, I'm tired of the
> theatrics on both sides of (seemingly) every issue these days.

This is the greatest threat to freedom man around the world is facing.
>
> That's just my 2 cents worth.... Having said that, I'll return to
> lurking and trying to stay out of off-topic discussions.
This IMO is very much on topic for anyone using the Internet and for any
forum.
>
>


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On 1/19/2012 5:58 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Bear" <bearbottoms1+(E-Mail Removed)>
>
> < snip >
>
>>>
>>> That's just my 2 cents worth.... Having said that, I'll return to
>>> lurking and trying to stay out of off-topic discussions.
> | This IMO is very much on topic for anyone using the Internet and for any
> | forum.
>
> It is Off Topic subject matter as neither legislation concerns COMSEC
> and/or malware.
>
> There are planety of Usenet groups. Find an apropos group and discuss it
> there.
>
I appreciate your concern, though I disagree on this topic.

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Bear wrote:

> > There are planety of Usenet groups. Find an apropos group and
> > discuss it there.
>
> I appreciate your concern, though I disagree on this topic.

Dave, if you notice what's happening on the wider web yesterday,
regardless what the focus that any given site has, SOPA is a common
denominator that cuts across all of the internet.

For that reason, it's entirely appropriate to discuss it in any or all
newsgroups - at least during this brief period of protest and public
awareness.