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Doug D.
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      8th Oct 2003
Hi,

Let's say I have a Windows 2000 Server and I obtain 10
Terminal Server CALs to cover 10 client connections and
10 users.

Now, 2 of my users wish to run Microsoft Project via
Terminal Services, but the other 8 users do not need
access to Project. If I lock down the Terminal Server
according to the Microsoft article
(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q
278/2/95.ASP&NoWebContent=1) AND change the permissions
on the Project executable and its home directory so that
only the 2 users can run Project and no one else can, do
I still need to get 10 Project licenses?

Remember, Microsoft usually wants you to get a desktop
application license for each client that can access the
server.

Thanks for any help!

- Doug -
 
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Matthew Harris [MVP]
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      8th Oct 2003

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>
>Let's say I have a Windows 2000 Server and I obtain 10
>Terminal Server CALs to cover 10 client connections and
>10 users.
>
>Now, 2 of my users wish to run Microsoft Project via
>Terminal Services, but the other 8 users do not need
>access to Project. If I lock down the Terminal Server
>according to the Microsoft article
>(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q
>278/2/95.ASP&NoWebContent=1) AND change the permissions
>on the Project executable and its home directory so that
>only the 2 users can run Project and no one else can, do
>I still need to get 10 Project licenses?


No. Microsoft Office (and Project) are licensed based on
use. If you have 100 users, but only 2 specific people
use it, then you need 2 licenses, but only those 2 people
can use it. On the flip side, if you have 100 users, and
only 2 of those 100 use it at any one time, but all your
users will use it eventually, then you need 100 licenses.
Does this clear it up?

>Remember, Microsoft usually wants you to get a desktop
>application license for each client that can access the
>server.
>
>Thanks for any help!
>
> - Doug -


Right, this is correct. Every device that uses terminal
services requires you to have a license. If you connect
with only one device, but you have 100 people connecting
to the system, then you only need one TSCAL. However, if
you have one user who connects through 100 devices, then
you need to buy 100 TSCALs.

-M
 
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Doug D.
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      8th Oct 2003
Hi Matthew,

Thanks for your reply. Actually, I think the following
link somewhat answers my question:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...howtobuy/prici
ng/licensoffice.asp

The key phrase here is "Microsoft licenses its desktop
application products on a per-computer basis" not per
user. This means that, given my scenario, if my 2
Project users only access Project on the server from 2
separate terminals, I'm fine. However, if they need to
access Project on the server from more than 2 terminals,
I need to purchase additional Project licenses.

Thanks again!

- Doug -


>-----Original Message-----
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi,
>>
>>Let's say I have a Windows 2000 Server and I obtain 10
>>Terminal Server CALs to cover 10 client connections and
>>10 users.
>>
>>Now, 2 of my users wish to run Microsoft Project via
>>Terminal Services, but the other 8 users do not need
>>access to Project. If I lock down the Terminal Server
>>according to the Microsoft article
>>(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>>scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles

/Q
>>278/2/95.ASP&NoWebContent=1) AND change the permissions
>>on the Project executable and its home directory so

that
>>only the 2 users can run Project and no one else can,

do
>>I still need to get 10 Project licenses?

>
>No. Microsoft Office (and Project) are licensed based

on
>use. If you have 100 users, but only 2 specific people
>use it, then you need 2 licenses, but only those 2

people
>can use it. On the flip side, if you have 100 users,

and
>only 2 of those 100 use it at any one time, but all your
>users will use it eventually, then you need 100

licenses.
>Does this clear it up?
>
>>Remember, Microsoft usually wants you to get a desktop
>>application license for each client that can access the
>>server.
>>
>>Thanks for any help!
>>
>> - Doug -

>
>Right, this is correct. Every device that uses terminal
>services requires you to have a license. If you connect
>with only one device, but you have 100 people connecting
>to the system, then you only need one TSCAL. However,

if
>you have one user who connects through 100 devices, then
>you need to buy 100 TSCALs.
>
>-M
>.
>

 
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Matthew Harris [MVP]
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      8th Oct 2003
Ah...should have checked there first.

-M

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Matthew,
>
>Thanks for your reply. Actually, I think the following
>link somewhat answers my question:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000...howtobuy/prici
>ng/licensoffice.asp
>
>The key phrase here is "Microsoft licenses its desktop
>application products on a per-computer basis" not per
>user. This means that, given my scenario, if my 2
>Project users only access Project on the server from 2
>separate terminals, I'm fine. However, if they need to
>access Project on the server from more than 2 terminals,
>I need to purchase additional Project licenses.
>
>Thanks again!
>
> - Doug -
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Let's say I have a Windows 2000 Server and I obtain 10
>>>Terminal Server CALs to cover 10 client connections and
>>>10 users.
>>>
>>>Now, 2 of my users wish to run Microsoft Project via
>>>Terminal Services, but the other 8 users do not need
>>>access to Project. If I lock down the Terminal Server
>>>according to the Microsoft article
>>>(http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
>>>scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles

>/Q
>>>278/2/95.ASP&NoWebContent=1) AND change the permissions
>>>on the Project executable and its home directory so

>that
>>>only the 2 users can run Project and no one else can,

>do
>>>I still need to get 10 Project licenses?

>>
>>No. Microsoft Office (and Project) are licensed based

>on
>>use. If you have 100 users, but only 2 specific people
>>use it, then you need 2 licenses, but only those 2

>people
>>can use it. On the flip side, if you have 100 users,

>and
>>only 2 of those 100 use it at any one time, but all your
>>users will use it eventually, then you need 100

>licenses.
>>Does this clear it up?
>>
>>>Remember, Microsoft usually wants you to get a desktop
>>>application license for each client that can access the
>>>server.
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help!
>>>
>>> - Doug -

>>
>>Right, this is correct. Every device that uses terminal
>>services requires you to have a license. If you connect
>>with only one device, but you have 100 people connecting
>>to the system, then you only need one TSCAL. However,

>if
>>you have one user who connects through 100 devices, then
>>you need to buy 100 TSCALs.
>>
>>-M
>>.
>>

>.
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