As part of a college assignment, my colleague and I were asked to do
research on Apple switching to the Intel microprocessor. Here is a
result of our findings
http://www.mochima.com/net/apple_intel

In brief, we found that there is a lot of speculation in regards to the
implications of the switch. It could hurt sales until the Apple Intel
machines are made available. It may also hurt Apple's share price on
the Stock Market. In either case it could cause severe damage to Apple
in the short term and long term.

Although we agree on some aspects of this switch, we fundamentally
disagree on Apple's direction. I believe that the switch is the first
step of a master plan of putting their operating system, OS X on
Windows machines even though Apple vehemently denies this. Whereas my
colleague Robert believes that Apple's decision is actually much more
about moving away from IBM, rather than switching to Intel. This is due
to the fact that Apple's dependency on IBM has been hurting Apple and
the entire Macintosh community for quite some time.

Which viewpoint do you agree with, if any? Please provide appropriate
criticisms and arguments, as this assignment will be evaluated based on
the quality of discussion and feedback.

Seydou Bangoura
Robert Sones

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Seydou Bangoura" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Which viewpoint do you agree with, if any? Please provide appropriate
> criticisms and arguments, as this assignment will be evaluated based on
> the quality of discussion and feedback.

What did "Deep Throat" say? "Follow the money." Where does Apple make
its money?

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Tom Stiller

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Seydou Bangoura wrote:

> I believe that the switch is the first step of a master plan of
> putting their operating system, OS X on Windows machines even though
> Apple vehemently denies this.

What's a "Windows machine" ?

How do you "put" an OS on a "Windows machine" ?

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Seydou Bangoura <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> this assignment will be evaluated based on
> the quality of discussion and feedback.

So you're soliciting opinions on USEnet? LOL!

I'lll give you a D- right now...

LMAO!

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On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 04:58:16 -0700, Grumble wrote
(in article <d9gsgp$3ru$(E-Mail Removed)>):

> Seydou Bangoura wrote:
>
>> I believe that the switch is the first step of a master plan of
>> putting their operating system, OS X on Windows machines even though
>> Apple vehemently denies this.
>
> What's a "Windows machine" ?
>
> How do you "put" an OS on a "Windows machine" ?

Its hardware not software where they make their money. 50% of computer
sales are laptops. They can't put G5 chips in laptops due to heat so in
the near future laptop sales were going to be hurt. Macs are reliable at
least partly because they only have to configure the software to a few
configurations that they control so there are fewer conflicts. I can't
see them wanting to try to make it compatible to everything out there,
that is a nightmare.

Seydou Bangoura wrote:

>
> Which viewpoint do you agree with, if any? Please provide appropriate
> criticisms and arguments, as this assignment will be evaluated based on
> the quality of discussion and feedback.
>

Hmmmm. Did your instructor tell you if you were expected to get all
your feedback from your original post, or if you were expected to
engage in a dialoge to elicit comment?

Trying to craft an original post to

a. Get in all your points and have them heard.
b. Elicit intelligent comment.

is sometimes just about impossible. One strategy is to hold back one
or more points and/or supporting arguments until they arise naturally
in an exchange. That way, the point or the argument will be framed not
only by the outline of your thought, but by the outline of the
discussion thread. Just as in chess, it pays to think more than one
move ahead.

RM

Do have a better solution to offer? This is all new to both of us.

Robert

RobertS wrote:

> Do have a better solution to offer? This is all new to both of us.
>

Stick to your own agenda. Don't respond to abusive posts (which the
previous one was) unless you have some reason for thinking the exchange
can be salvaged (you know the poster, for example, and the abusiveness
is part of the act or you know the poster and the abusiveness seems
like an aberration).

There are some very bright people on usenet, some of whom are eager to
be helpful or to exchange knowledge, information, or opinions. There
are also not-so-bright people and pure trolls.

RM

<What's a "Windows machine" ?

I'm glad you pointed that out Grumble. That was one of our concerns
when we were writing this paper. What term do you use for a computer
that runs Windows? You can't use the term IBM compatible or IBM clone
anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions?

<How do you "put" an OS on a "Windows machine"?

A little bit of sarcasm doesn't hurt. Yes, our terminolgy in regards to
a "Windows Machine" was poor. But as stated in our paper Apple could
possibly "put" their operating system on a "A PC that has traditionally
run Windows" if they unlocked their OS from their hardware.

Seydou Bangoura

Seydou Bangoura wrote:
> <What's a "Windows machine" ?
>
> I'm glad you pointed that out Grumble. That was one of our concerns
> when we were writing this paper. What term do you use for a computer
> that runs Windows? You can't use the term IBM compatible or IBM clone
> anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Shouldn't you know that from your course? :-)

To aggravate even further the issue, Windows (certain versions of
Windows, at least) run on a variety of hardware that goes beyond
the PC/Intel architecture.

So no, saying a "machine that traditionally runs Windows" doesn't
solve the problem.

I think the term "PC" (or "PC architecture") reflects what you were
trying to say -- saying Intel, or x86 architecture may be misleading
nowadays, given that AMD jumped in with their AMD64 architecture,
which fits with the PC.

Carlos
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