hello. this is a very weird, and slightly long, problem. hope someone can
help.

I am in the UK, I have 2 computers, 1 laptop and 1 desktop. both running on
a BT phone line with aol as the broadband (512Kbps) isp. both connect
wirelessly to a belkin modem/router (b/g MIMO) using a notebook adapter and
a usb adapter respectively, (both b/g MIMO). both run win xp; laptop pro,
desktop home.

basically when anything other than the aol software tries to use the
internet the whole computer locks up. i.e. no mouse input or ctrlaltdel, no
autorestart. just frozen. this happens on both machines. usually just as it
finds a website the computer locks up. occasionally it will freeze after a
few seconds... the aol software works fine, no lock ups and generally a good
connection.

I then have to manually restart to get access to the computer again.

I have even moved the laptop, router and the notebook adapter, up the road
to another house running a bt phone line with bt as isp. the laptop,
unsurprisingly, worked perfectly.

I even replaced the router. so i have ruled out the hardware as the problem,
as it works fine on another phone line. the laptop works fine through
another phone line.

both machines lock up, which must be impossible? so it must be the phone
line somehow crashing the computers? or, my bet is placed firmly on aol...

but how could aol broadband manage to lock up 2 computers through a router
and wireless adapters??

does it realise that windows or a third party program tries to use the
internet and punishes the machine by locking it up?

I have reset the winsock. reinstalled the belkin hardware. the only thing I
haven't done is uninstall the aol software...

I really hope that someone might have some ideas...

steve

watercress_soup wrote:
> hello. this is a very weird, and slightly long, problem. hope someone
> can help.
>
> I am in the UK, I have 2 computers, 1 laptop and 1 desktop. both running
> on a BT phone line with aol as the broadband (512Kbps) isp. both connect
> wirelessly to a belkin modem/router (b/g MIMO) using a notebook adapter
> and a usb adapter respectively, (both b/g MIMO). both run win xp; laptop
> pro, desktop home.
>
> basically when anything other than the aol software tries to use the
> internet the whole computer locks up. i.e. no mouse input or ctrlaltdel,
> no autorestart. just frozen. this happens on both machines. usually just
> as it finds a website the computer locks up. occasionally it will freeze
> after a few seconds... the aol software works fine, no lock ups and
> generally a good connection.
>
> I then have to manually restart to get access to the computer again.
>
> I have even moved the laptop, router and the notebook adapter, up the
> road to another house running a bt phone line with bt as isp. the
> laptop, unsurprisingly, worked perfectly.
>
> I even replaced the router. so i have ruled out the hardware as the
> problem, as it works fine on another phone line. the laptop works fine
> through another phone line.
>
> both machines lock up, which must be impossible? so it must be the phone
> line somehow crashing the computers? or, my bet is placed firmly on aol...
>
> but how could aol broadband manage to lock up 2 computers through a
> router and wireless adapters??
>
> does it realise that windows or a third party program tries to use the
> internet and punishes the machine by locking it up?
>
> I have reset the winsock. reinstalled the belkin hardware. the only
> thing I haven't done is uninstall the aol software...
>
> I really hope that someone might have some ideas...
>
> steve

Unfortunately, to completely rid yourself of AOL, you need to do a clean
install. You will, however, be very glad you did it.

Alias

steve

AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live with it. If you would like to have normal working access with your computers then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from your system involves a complete clean re-install since that software has taken over most if not all of your Windows system.

--
Peter

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"watercress_soup" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello. this is a very weird, and slightly long, problem. hope someone can
> help.
>
> I am in the UK, I have 2 computers, 1 laptop and 1 desktop. both running on
> a BT phone line with aol as the broadband (512Kbps) isp. both connect
> wirelessly to a belkin modem/router (b/g MIMO) using a notebook adapter and
> a usb adapter respectively, (both b/g MIMO). both run win xp; laptop pro,
> desktop home.
>
> basically when anything other than the aol software tries to use the
> internet the whole computer locks up. i.e. no mouse input or ctrlaltdel, no
> autorestart. just frozen. this happens on both machines. usually just as it
> finds a website the computer locks up. occasionally it will freeze after a
> few seconds... the aol software works fine, no lock ups and generally a good
> connection.
>
> I then have to manually restart to get access to the computer again.
>
> I have even moved the laptop, router and the notebook adapter, up the road
> to another house running a bt phone line with bt as isp. the laptop,
> unsurprisingly, worked perfectly.
>
> I even replaced the router. so i have ruled out the hardware as the problem,
> as it works fine on another phone line. the laptop works fine through
> another phone line.
>
> both machines lock up, which must be impossible? so it must be the phone
> line somehow crashing the computers? or, my bet is placed firmly on aol...
>
> but how could aol broadband manage to lock up 2 computers through a router
> and wireless adapters??
>
> does it realise that windows or a third party program tries to use the
> internet and punishes the machine by locking it up?
>
> I have reset the winsock. reinstalled the belkin hardware. the only thing I
> haven't done is uninstall the aol software...
>
> I really hope that someone might have some ideas...
>
> steve
>

thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
computers. it is not fun.

is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers? even
though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?

i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?

a removal of aol is the answer?

steve

"Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
steve

AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live with it.
If you would like to have normal working access with your computers then I
suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a different
ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from your system
involves a complete clean re-install since that software has taken over most
if not all of your Windows system.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"watercress_soup" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> hello. this is a very weird, and slightly long, problem. hope someone can
> help.
>
> I am in the UK, I have 2 computers, 1 laptop and 1 desktop. both running
> on
> a BT phone line with aol as the broadband (512Kbps) isp. both connect
> wirelessly to a belkin modem/router (b/g MIMO) using a notebook adapter
> and
> a usb adapter respectively, (both b/g MIMO). both run win xp; laptop pro,
> desktop home.
>
> basically when anything other than the aol software tries to use the
> internet the whole computer locks up. i.e. no mouse input or ctrlaltdel,
> no
> autorestart. just frozen. this happens on both machines. usually just as
> it
> finds a website the computer locks up. occasionally it will freeze after a
> few seconds... the aol software works fine, no lock ups and generally a
> good
> connection.
>
> I then have to manually restart to get access to the computer again.
>
> I have even moved the laptop, router and the notebook adapter, up the road
> to another house running a bt phone line with bt as isp. the laptop,
> unsurprisingly, worked perfectly.
>
> I even replaced the router. so i have ruled out the hardware as the
> problem,
> as it works fine on another phone line. the laptop works fine through
> another phone line.
>
> both machines lock up, which must be impossible? so it must be the phone
> line somehow crashing the computers? or, my bet is placed firmly on aol...
>
> but how could aol broadband manage to lock up 2 computers through a router
> and wireless adapters??
>
> does it realise that windows or a third party program tries to use the
> internet and punishes the machine by locking it up?
>
> I have reset the winsock. reinstalled the belkin hardware. the only thing
> I
> haven't done is uninstall the aol software...
>
> I really hope that someone might have some ideas...
>
> steve
>

watercress_soup wrote:
> thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
> computers. it is not fun.
>
> is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers?
> even though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?
>
> i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?
>
> a removal of aol is the answer?
>
> steve

If AOL works, it isn't the hardware ... I tried AOL once and ran into
the same problems and it only got fixed with a clean install.

Alias
>
> "Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> steve
>
> AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live with
> it. If you would like to have normal working access with your computers
> then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a
> different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from
> your system involves a complete clean re-install since that software has
> taken over most if not all of your Windows system.
>

you signed on to aol with the same name on both computers
change 1 name home free



"Alias" wrote:

> watercress_soup wrote:
> > thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
> > computers. it is not fun.
> >
> > is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers?
> > even though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?
> >
> > i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?
> >
> > a removal of aol is the answer?
> >
> > steve
>
> If AOL works, it isn't the hardware ... I tried AOL once and ran into
> the same problems and it only got fixed with a clean install.
>
> Alias
> >
> > "Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > steve
> >
> > AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live with
> > it. If you would like to have normal working access with your computers
> > then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a
> > different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from
> > your system involves a complete clean re-install since that software has
> > taken over most if not all of your Windows system.
> >
>

it locks up whether aol is open and running or not. it will lock up if one
machine is on and the other off and if both are on. (they will lock up
indepentently of each other) its always as soon as ie7 or firefox accesses
the internet. actually when either starts to download the webpage...

steve


"john" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:39709E12-24B9-491F-BFA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> you signed on to aol with the same name on both computers
> change 1 name home free
>
>
>
> "Alias" wrote:
>
>> watercress_soup wrote:
>> > thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
>> > computers. it is not fun.
>> >
>> > is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers?
>> > even though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?
>> >
>> > i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?
>> >
>> > a removal of aol is the answer?
>> >
>> > steve
>>
>> If AOL works, it isn't the hardware ... I tried AOL once and ran into
>> the same problems and it only got fixed with a clean install.
>>
>> Alias
>> >
>> > "Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > steve
>> >
>> > AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live
>> > with
>> > it. If you would like to have normal working access with your computers
>> > then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a
>> > different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from
>> > your system involves a complete clean re-install since that software
>> > has
>> > taken over most if not all of your Windows system.
>> >
>>

watercress_soup wrote:
> it locks up whether aol is open and running or not. it will lock up if
> one machine is on and the other off and if both are on. (they will lock
> up indepentently of each other) its always as soon as ie7 or firefox
> accesses the internet. actually when either starts to download the
> webpage...
>
> steve

Time to back up data, reformat and clean install. Rid yourself of the
AOHell infection. You'll be glad you did. You can still keep the email
addresses and access them on aol.com

Alias
>
>
> "john" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:39709E12-24B9-491F-BFA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> you signed on to aol with the same name on both computers
>> change 1 name home free
>>
>>
>>
>> "Alias" wrote:
>>
>>> watercress_soup wrote:
>>> > thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
>>> > computers. it is not fun.
>>> >
>>> > is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers?
>>> > even though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?
>>> >
>>> > i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?
>>> >
>>> > a removal of aol is the answer?
>>> >
>>> > steve
>>>
>>> If AOL works, it isn't the hardware ... I tried AOL once and ran into
>>> the same problems and it only got fixed with a clean install.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>> >
>>> > "Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > steve
>>> >
>>> > AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live
>>> > with
>>> > it. If you would like to have normal working access with your
>>> computers
>>> > then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a
>>> > different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely
>>> from
>>> > your system involves a complete clean re-install since that
>>> software > has
>>> > taken over most if not all of your Windows system.
>>> >
>>>
>

have you ever had both up at one time before ie7 if so git rid of ie7




"watercress_soup" wrote:

> it locks up whether aol is open and running or not. it will lock up if one
> machine is on and the other off and if both are on. (they will lock up
> indepentently of each other) its always as soon as ie7 or firefox accesses
> the internet. actually when either starts to download the webpage...
>
> steve
>
>
> "john" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:39709E12-24B9-491F-BFA3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > you signed on to aol with the same name on both computers
> > change 1 name home free
> >
> >
> >
> > "Alias" wrote:
> >
> >> watercress_soup wrote:
> >> > thanks for your input. i have tried to remove aol before from other
> >> > computers. it is not fun.
> >> >
> >> > is it really possible that the software is locking up the computers?
> >> > even though the computer freezes when aol isnt running?
> >> >
> >> > i would guess aol connectivity service is one of the problems?
> >> >
> >> > a removal of aol is the answer?
> >> >
> >> > steve
> >>
> >> If AOL works, it isn't the hardware ... I tried AOL once and ran into
> >> the same problems and it only got fixed with a clean install.
> >>
> >> Alias
> >> >
> >> > "Peter Foldes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > steve
> >> >
> >> > AOL software is proprietary and unfortunately you will have to live
> >> > with
> >> > it. If you would like to have normal working access with your computers
> >> > then I suggest that you remove your AOL software and change to a
> >> > different ISP(Internet service provider). To remove AOL completely from
> >> > your system involves a complete clean re-install since that software
> >> > has
> >> > taken over most if not all of your Windows system.
> >> >
> >>
>
>