PC Review


Reply
Thread Tools Rate Thread

Is anyone considering Visual Web Developer?

 
 
Birk Binnard
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      8th May 2006
MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).

VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to
import/convert a FrontPage web?

I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities
to handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone
at MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration
path from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with
FrontPage styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from
Navigation View.
--
Birk Binnard
http://www.birkbinnard.com
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      8th May 2006
Why not just stick with FP 2003? It will be supported for quite some time.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
"Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
| year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
|
| VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
| interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
| FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to
| import/convert a FrontPage web?
|
| I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities
| to handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone
| at MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration
| path from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with
| FrontPage styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from
| Navigation View.
| --
| Birk Binnard
| http://www.birkbinnard.com


 
Reply With Quote
 
Ronx
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      8th May 2006
In my opinion, "Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition"
is an introduction to Visual Studio 2005. The successor to FrontPage
(for most webmasters) will be Expressions Web Designer.
See (as recently mentioned by Tom [Pepper] Willet):
-----------------------------------------
Microsoft Expression: Latest Plans for the future of FrontPage:

1) http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...205221033.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/products/ex...r/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/prev...ighlights.mspx

2) Microsoft Expression Newsgroups:
microsoft.public.expression.dicussion
microsoft.public.expression.interactivedesigner

**Continued support for FrontPage 2003:
Currently, mainstream support will not be retired until 1-13-2009.
Extended
support will not be retired until 1-14-2014.
--------------
--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/



"Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of
> this year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer
> (VWD).
>
> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to
> import/convert a FrontPage web?
>
> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's
> abilities to handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as
> though someone at MS was asleep at the switch when it came to
> providing a migration path from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on
> anything associated with FrontPage styles, webbots such as hit
> counters, and links created from Navigation View.
> --
> Birk Binnard
> http://www.birkbinnard.com



 
Reply With Quote
 
Steve Easton
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      8th May 2006
1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be either to
Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.

If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
Expression.


--
Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer



"Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
>
> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to import/convert
> a FrontPage web?
>
> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities to
> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone at
> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with FrontPage
> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from Navigation
> View.
> --
> Birk Binnard
> http://www.birkbinnard.com



 
Reply With Quote
 
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      8th May 2006
Thanks, Ron. I think this whole change is confusing to people, at best.

--
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
----------
"Ronx" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In my opinion, "Microsoft Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition" is
> an introduction to Visual Studio 2005. The successor to FrontPage (for
> most webmasters) will be Expressions Web Designer.
> See (as recently mentioned by Tom [Pepper] Willet):
> -----------------------------------------
> Microsoft Expression: Latest Plans for the future of FrontPage:
>
> 1) http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/as...205221033.aspx
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/products/ex...r/default.mspx
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/prev...ighlights.mspx
>
> 2) Microsoft Expression Newsgroups:
> microsoft.public.expression.dicussion
> microsoft.public.expression.interactivedesigner
>
> **Continued support for FrontPage 2003:
> Currently, mainstream support will not be retired until 1-13-2009.
> Extended
> support will not be retired until 1-14-2014.
> --------------
> --
> Tom [Pepper] Willett
> Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
>
>
> "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
>> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
>>
>> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
>> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
>> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to import/convert
>> a FrontPage web?
>>
>> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities to
>> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone at
>> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
>> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with FrontPage
>> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from Navigation
>> View.
>> --
>> Birk Binnard
>> http://www.birkbinnard.com

>
>



 
Reply With Quote
 
You Know Who ~
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      11th May 2006
My hosting site will discontinue frontpage extensions in two months. Does
expressions import the webs created by FP2002?
thanks
b


"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> 1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
> 2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be either
> to Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.
>
> If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
> Expression.
>
>
> --
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
> This site is best viewed............
> .......................with a computer
>
>
>
> "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
>> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
>>
>> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
>> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
>> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to import/convert
>> a FrontPage web?
>>
>> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities to
>> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone at
>> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
>> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with FrontPage
>> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from Navigation
>> View.
>> --
>> Birk Binnard
>> http://www.birkbinnard.com

>
>



 
Reply With Quote
 
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      11th May 2006
At this point, we are unable to provide you with any specific information
about EWD, and are not allowed to do so.
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
===
"You Know Who ~" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| My hosting site will discontinue frontpage extensions in two months. Does
| expressions import the webs created by FP2002?
| thanks
| b
|
|
| "Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| > 1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
| > 2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be either
| > to Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.
| >
| > If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
| > Expression.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Steve Easton
| > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
| > 95isalive
| > This site is best viewed............
| > .......................with a computer
| >
| >
| >
| > "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
| >> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
| >> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
| >>
| >> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
| >> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
| >> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to
import/convert
| >> a FrontPage web?
| >>
| >> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities
to
| >> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone
at
| >> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
| >> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with FrontPage
| >> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from Navigation
| >> View.
| >> --
| >> Birk Binnard
| >> http://www.birkbinnard.com
| >
| >
|
|


 
Reply With Quote
 
Clark
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12th May 2006
That sounds like a short-sighted hosting company. How can they even
consider doing that given the replacement (if in fact it is a
replacement, backward compatible etc) isnt even out!

On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:13:20 -0400, "You Know Who ~"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>My hosting site will discontinue frontpage extensions in two months. Does
>expressions import the webs created by FP2002?
>thanks
>b
>
>
>"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> 1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
>> 2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be either
>> to Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.
>>
>> If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
>> Expression.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Easton
>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> 95isalive
>> This site is best viewed............
>> .......................with a computer
>>
>>
>>
>> "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of this
>>> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
>>>
>>> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
>>> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
>>> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to import/convert
>>> a FrontPage web?
>>>
>>> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities to
>>> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone at
>>> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
>>> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with FrontPage
>>> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from Navigation
>>> View.
>>> --
>>> Birk Binnard
>>> http://www.birkbinnard.com

>>
>>

>


 
Reply With Quote
 
You Know Who
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12th May 2006
Obviously we will have to fire them (BostonDataCenter) but that doesn't
really help my problem much....

b

"Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> That sounds like a short-sighted hosting company. How can they even
> consider doing that given the replacement (if in fact it is a
> replacement, backward compatible etc) isnt even out!
>
> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:13:20 -0400, "You Know Who ~"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >My hosting site will discontinue frontpage extensions in two months.

Does
> >expressions import the webs created by FP2002?
> >thanks
> >b
> >
> >
> >"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> 1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
> >> 2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be

either
> >> to Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.
> >>
> >> If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
> >> Expression.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Steve Easton
> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> >> 95isalive
> >> This site is best viewed............
> >> .......................with a computer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of

this
> >>> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
> >>>
> >>> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
> >>> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
> >>> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to

import/convert
> >>> a FrontPage web?
> >>>
> >>> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities

to
> >>> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone

at
> >>> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
> >>> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with

FrontPage
> >>> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from

Navigation
> >>> View.
> >>> --
> >>> Birk Binnard
> >>> http://www.birkbinnard.com
> >>
> >>

> >

>


 
Reply With Quote
 
Thomas A. Rowe
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
      12th May 2006
Any HTML Editor can open any page/site created in FP.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

"You Know Who" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Obviously we will have to fire them (BostonDataCenter) but that doesn't
> really help my problem much....
>
> b
>
> "Clark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> That sounds like a short-sighted hosting company. How can they even
>> consider doing that given the replacement (if in fact it is a
>> replacement, backward compatible etc) isnt even out!
>>
>> On Thu, 11 May 2006 12:13:20 -0400, "You Know Who ~"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >My hosting site will discontinue frontpage extensions in two months.

> Does
>> >expressions import the webs created by FP2002?
>> >thanks
>> >b
>> >
>> >
>> >"Steve Easton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> 1. Support for FrontPage will be around for awhile.
>> >> 2. For people familiar with FrontPage, the migration path will be

> either
>> >> to Expression Web Designer or SharePoint Designer.
>> >>
>> >> If you don't use WSS or any SharePoint features, then the path would be
>> >> Expression.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Steve Easton
>> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> >> 95isalive
>> >> This site is best viewed............
>> >> .......................with a computer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Birk Binnard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>> MS has announced that FrontPage will be discontinued by the end of

> this
>> >>> year and is suggesting people migrate to Visual Web Developer (VWD).
>> >>>
>> >>> VWD is free (at least the "Express version is free) and it has some
>> >>> interesting features, but it doesn't seem to be able to deal with a
>> >>> FrontPage web much at all. Has anyone tried to use VWD to

> import/convert
>> >>> a FrontPage web?
>> >>>
>> >>> I downloaded VWD a few days ago and am unimpressed with it's abilities

> to
>> >>> handle anything other than straight HTML. It seems as though someone

> at
>> >>> MS was asleep at the switch when it came to providing a migration path
>> >>> from FrontPage to VWD. VWD chokes on anything associated with

> FrontPage
>> >>> styles, webbots such as hit counters, and links created from

> Navigation
>> >>> View.
>> >>> --
>> >>> Birk Binnard
>> >>> http://www.birkbinnard.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >

>>

>



 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Relationship Between Visual Studio and Visual Web Developer Cramer Microsoft ASP .NET 2 10th Jul 2008 06:32 AM
Visual Studio vs Visual Web Developer Kevin Microsoft ASP .NET 2 13th Sep 2007 09:42 AM
Visual Studio 2005 or Visual Web Developer ? Bit Byte Microsoft ASP .NET 16 5th Feb 2007 03:18 AM
Visual Studio 2005 versus Visual Web Developer MPA Microsoft Dot NET 1 20th Sep 2006 05:57 AM
visual studio 2005 or visual web developer? Jessica Weiner Microsoft C# .NET 1 19th May 2006 11:24 PM


Features
 

Advertising
 

Newsgroups
 


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:20 PM.