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Anybody have 4 GB (ram) in their system ?

 
 
Skybuck Flying
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      3rd Dec 2005
Hi,

I read some people are having problems with the an8-sli-premium motherboard
when trying to use 4 memory sticks.

I am considering buying this motherboard because it has enough room for air
flow for two dual slot gtx 7800, 512 MB cards.

However I also want my system to be ready for 64 bit computing, like windows
vista in the future.

So who on these newsgroups is 64 bit ready ? and is already running 64 bit
linux or windows 64 bit or beta versions of windows vista with 4 GB or
memory ? !!

(I am also interested to hear about any other motherboards being able to use
4 GB/4 memory sticks in practice ! )

Bye,
Skybuck.


 
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bowgus
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      3rd Dec 2005
A8N-sli (not "premium" so I suppose this is all OT) ... 2 Kingston
KVR400X64C31K2/1G = 4, dual boot with that free trial XP64 ... only one
bfg7800gtx so far but it is tempting to get a 2nd ... all running just fine.
I went with the Seasonic 600W ATX12 V2.0 ... comes with all the right
connectors for sli.

Linux .. that reminds me ... where'd I put all those distros ???

The 4 sticks are only the result of selling off one PC without mem, else
would go with 2.

My board, PS, disks etc are sitting here on the desk ... no case. Here's a
question ... I'm using the BIOS start on spacebar, but it does not always
work. Once in a while have to power off/on the PS to get the start on
spacebar to work.???

Note ... I'm only responding only to this .asus newsgroup ... no tolerance
for cross posters.

> I read some people are having problems with the an8-sli-premium

motherboard
> when trying to use 4 memory sticks.



 
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Justice
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      3rd Dec 2005
Skybuck Flying wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I read some people are having problems with the an8-sli-premium motherboard
> when trying to use 4 memory sticks.
>
> I am considering buying this motherboard because it has enough room for air
> flow for two dual slot gtx 7800, 512 MB cards.
>
> However I also want my system to be ready for 64 bit computing, like windows
> vista in the future.
>
> So who on these newsgroups is 64 bit ready ? and is already running 64 bit
> linux or windows 64 bit or beta versions of windows vista with 4 GB or
> memory ? !!
>
> (I am also interested to hear about any other motherboards being able to use
> 4 GB/4 memory sticks in practice ! )
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.
>
>

At work we have a Thunder K8QW (S4881) with 2 optrons an 8gb ram DDR
3200. running debain. We also have more power but thats the one I know
what's in it
 
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Tom Lake
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      3rd Dec 2005
>> (I am also interested to hear about any other motherboards being able to
>> use
>> 4 GB/4 memory sticks in practice ! )


I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.


Tom Lake


 
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Odie Ferrous
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      4th Dec 2005
Tom Lake wrote:
>
> >> (I am also interested to hear about any other motherboards being able to
> >> use
> >> 4 GB/4 memory sticks in practice ! )

>
> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.


Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?

In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and I
mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.

The chipset design prevents the full 4GB being available, and populating
all four memory slots generally takes the FSB down to 333MHz. Windows
stability is also flaky.


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Roger Hamlett
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      4th Dec 2005

"Odie Ferrous" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Tom Lake wrote:
>>
>> >> (I am also interested to hear about any other motherboards being
>> >> able to
>> >> use
>> >> 4 GB/4 memory sticks in practice ! )

>>
>> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.

>
> Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?
>
> In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
> non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and I
> mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.
>
> The chipset design prevents the full 4GB being available, and populating
> all four memory slots generally takes the FSB down to 333MHz. Windows
> stability is also flaky.

I'm running 4GB with normal WXP, on the Asus SLI board being discussed.
You have to use the /3GB switch, to allocate 3GB to the user memory space,
otherwise Windows is only allocating 2GB, and reserving the rest for
system use, which is then rarely taken advantage of. The SLI, does
implement the extended addressing mode, allowing WXP, and latter OS's to
'see' 4GB (without this, the memory space used for things like the video
card, PCI devices etc., will be 'lost' from the available memory). It
works fine. There is a caveat, that a few applications don't like the /3GB
mode (only two that I have met so far, and both very old). I am running
with the memory at PC3200 (Samsung memory). There was a change a little
while ago, in either the board, processor, or the BIOS (can't now remember
which), which had a significant effect on stability when all four memory
slots are filled. A bit of research ought to find details of this, and
before this was implemented, earlier machines had to slow down the memory
bus, when they were fully populated like this.

Best Wishes



 
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Tom Lake
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      4th Dec 2005
>> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.
>
> Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?
>
> In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
> non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and I
> mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.


Windows reports 3.5GB RAM and the GNB Max *IS* 100% stable.
The chipset is the Intel E7205 server chipset with a 533MHz FSB and can
only use up to DDR 2100 but with the dual channel configuration, that gives
the CPU all the bandwidth it can use anyway. Using faster RAM wouldn't
speed up the processor at all. I've run it 24/7 for about two years now,
only rebooting after new software installs or updates

Tom Lake



 
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Roger Hamlett
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      4th Dec 2005

"Tom Lake" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:z0Bkf.61078$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.

>>
>> Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?
>>
>> In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
>> non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and I
>> mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.

>
> Windows reports 3.5GB RAM and the GNB Max *IS* 100% stable.
> The chipset is the Intel E7205 server chipset with a 533MHz FSB and can
> only use up to DDR 2100 but with the dual channel configuration, that
> gives
> the CPU all the bandwidth it can use anyway. Using faster RAM wouldn't
> speed up the processor at all. I've run it 24/7 for about two years now,
> only rebooting after new software installs or updates
>
> Tom Lake

If you ran with XP server, given that yours is a 'server' chipset, you
ought to see 4GB reported, rather than 3.5GB. This is because of the
memory limitations I mentioned, where the motherboard devices need some
memory area. There is an address extension mode, that gets round this, is
supported on the SLI, ought to be supported on your board, but requires XP
server, or 'better' to use. On the SLI, how much memory you see in
standard XP, depends on what video cards you have fitted. It can drop to
only about 3.2GB, if you have two cards using SLI.

Best Wishes


 
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justindavid
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      4th Dec 2005
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:14:38 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Tom Lake" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:z0Bkf.61078$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.
>>>
>>> Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?
>>>
>>> In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
>>> non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and I
>>> mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.

>>
>> Windows reports 3.5GB RAM and the GNB Max *IS* 100% stable.
>> The chipset is the Intel E7205 server chipset with a 533MHz FSB and can
>> only use up to DDR 2100 but with the dual channel configuration, that
>> gives
>> the CPU all the bandwidth it can use anyway. Using faster RAM wouldn't
>> speed up the processor at all. I've run it 24/7 for about two years now,
>> only rebooting after new software installs or updates
>>
>> Tom Lake

>If you ran with XP server, given that yours is a 'server' chipset, you
>ought to see 4GB reported, rather than 3.5GB. This is because of the
>memory limitations I mentioned, where the motherboard devices need some
>memory area. There is an address extension mode, that gets round this, is
>supported on the SLI, ought to be supported on your board, but requires XP
>server, or 'better' to use. On the SLI, how much memory you see in
>standard XP, depends on what video cards you have fitted. It can drop to
>only about 3.2GB, if you have two cards using SLI.
>
>Best Wishes
>

I'm running 4 gigs of DDR 3200 on a P4C800-E Deluxe, W2K Pro, and the
machine is showing 3,797,740 KB of Ram.
 
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Roger Hamlett
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      4th Dec 2005

"justindavid" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 21:14:38 GMT, "Roger Hamlett"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Tom Lake" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:z0Bkf.61078$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> I have an MSI GNB Max with P4 3.06GHz and 4GB dual channel DDR RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Do you get the full 4GB in Windows?
>>>>
>>>> In my experience, there's no motherboard out there today designed for
>>>> non-workstation chips (i.e. non-Xeon / Opteron) that works 100% - and
>>>> I
>>>> mean 100% - stable with more than 2GB of memory.
>>>
>>> Windows reports 3.5GB RAM and the GNB Max *IS* 100% stable.
>>> The chipset is the Intel E7205 server chipset with a 533MHz FSB and
>>> can
>>> only use up to DDR 2100 but with the dual channel configuration, that
>>> gives
>>> the CPU all the bandwidth it can use anyway. Using faster RAM
>>> wouldn't
>>> speed up the processor at all. I've run it 24/7 for about two years
>>> now,
>>> only rebooting after new software installs or updates
>>>
>>> Tom Lake

>>If you ran with XP server, given that yours is a 'server' chipset, you
>>ought to see 4GB reported, rather than 3.5GB. This is because of the
>>memory limitations I mentioned, where the motherboard devices need some
>>memory area. There is an address extension mode, that gets round this,
>>is
>>supported on the SLI, ought to be supported on your board, but requires
>>XP
>>server, or 'better' to use. On the SLI, how much memory you see in
>>standard XP, depends on what video cards you have fitted. It can drop to
>>only about 3.2GB, if you have two cards using SLI.
>>
>>Best Wishes
>>

> I'm running 4 gigs of DDR 3200 on a P4C800-E Deluxe, W2K Pro, and the
> machine is showing 3,797,740 KB of Ram.

Yes. The loss is dependant on how many areas are mapped into the area
below 4GB (and how large they are). Your figure would drop if (for
instance), you added a typical SCSI adapter, or some video cards. Two SLI
cards, create _large_ holes in this area...

Best Wishes


 
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