Doing a skit, we need to combine very many multiple 30-second clips
together on our windows xp laptops to bring to summer school class for
our final team project.

First question is does anyone know how to concatonate the same type of
files together into a single file in batch or very quick modes?

Second question is does anyone know how to combine different file
types together (mpeg, mpg, mov, & wmv)?

Can we do it with free stuff?
(We don't have much time or money and it's due next Thursday so I'm
asking BEFORE researching so just give me a name or two and I can look
them up please).

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:55:02 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>First question is does anyone know how to concatonate the same type of
>files together into a single file in batch or very quick modes?

I found freeware M1-Edit after starting my research into this.
http://www.videohelp.com/m1edit.htm

M1-Edit seems to care whether the files are mpeg-1 or mpeg-2
(something we never thought about).

How do I know if my files are mpg-1 or mpg-2?

> I found freeware M1-Edit after starting my research into this.
> http://www.videohelp.com/m1edit.htm

The links were bad at that web page so I moved on to something called
TMPGEnc
http://www.videohelp.com/tmpgencedit.htm

Hopefully TMPGEnc will allow our group to concatonate very many
multiple 30-second mpg, mov, and wmv files together into a single DVD.

I'll keep researching but if you have some good directions to try
please post the name so I can then download and try it out.

not freeware but these 2 can do exactly as you want

http://www.eo-video.com/

http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te3xp.html

perhaps the trial versions is good enough for you


"Sondra R. Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I found freeware M1-Edit after starting my research into this.
> > http://www.videohelp.com/m1edit.htm
>
> The links were bad at that web page so I moved on to something called
> TMPGEnc
> http://www.videohelp.com/tmpgencedit.htm
>
> Hopefully TMPGEnc will allow our group to concatonate very many
> multiple 30-second mpg, mov, and wmv files together into a single DVD.
>
> I'll keep researching but if you have some good directions to try
> please post the name so I can then download and try it out.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:58:51 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>How do I know if my files are mpg-1 or mpg-2?

Searching, I found a MPEG Properties free ware tool
http://www.filepedia.com/video_softw...properties.cfm

Once this MPEG properties download is up and running, I'll see if it
can tell me which mpg and mpeg files are mpeg-1 and which are mpeg-2.

But I still don't know what the difference is or why it may matter.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:23:27 +0300, "kenny" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> http://www.eo-video.com/
>
> http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te3xp.html
>
> Perhaps the trial versions is good enough for you.

Thanks for the pointer to Evideo and TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress.

I had already downloaded TMPGEnc-2.524.63.18-Free.zip by the time I
saw your message. The names 'seem' similar but the stuff I picked up
is definately freeware whereas the stuff you pointed me to has a
similar (but different) name.

When I read what each does, I get even more confused than before (I
don't know what half the terms mean, but, I keep looking them up one
by one).

With respect to what we are trying to accomplish tonight, is there a
simple way to state what the difference is between the freeware
TSUNAMI-MPEG Encoder" TMPGEnc 2.5 download I already installed (from
http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_faq.html ) and the trialware TMPGEnc 3.0
XPress at http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te3xp.html which you
so kindly recommended?

Are they essentially the same thing?

Sondra R. Wilson wrote:
> Doing a skit, we need to combine very many multiple 30-second clips
> together on our windows xp laptops to bring to summer school class for
> our final team project.
>
> First question is does anyone know how to concatonate the same type of
> files together into a single file in batch or very quick modes?
>
> Second question is does anyone know how to combine different file
> types together (mpeg, mpg, mov, & wmv)?
>
> Can we do it with free stuff?
> (We don't have much time or money and it's due next Thursday so I'm
> asking BEFORE researching so just give me a name or two and I can look
> them up please).

From the freewarehome.com website comes the following:

http://member.newsguy.com/~theprof/Readme.html

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls. No adware, cdware, commercial software,
crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware,
time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez please.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:09:49 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I moved on to something called TMPGEnc
> http://www.videohelp.com/tmpgencedit.htm
>
> Hopefully TMPGEnc will allow our group to concatonate very many
> multiple 30-second mpg, mov, and wmv files together into a single DVD.

I installed the Tsunami-MPEG-Encoder program (version 2.524.63.181)
from the URL above which apparently is freeware except for something
it says is its "MPEG-2 function", whichsubcomponent is on 30-day
trial. I think I can infer from this that TMPGEnc will handle both
MPEG-2 and MPEG-2 files so I won't have to use MPEG-Properties to
figure out which is which. Good.

I first tried feeding TMPGEnc my three test mpg files (1.mpg, 2.mpg,
and 3.mpg) but TMPGEnc kept wanting to save them as mpg files (which
they already were). In fact, TMPGEnc kept wanting to save each mpg
files as two mpg files (one of which was very short and contained only
a black screen).

At this point, I am realizing (in real time) that TMPGEnc is not a
tool for concatonating files (despite what the web page above seems to
imply) .... but is more likely a tool for CONVERSION of files to MPG.

This, in and of itself, may be useful to us as we have a bunch of wmv
and mov files too. So, I fed TMPGEnc the three test wmv files (1.wmv,
2.wmv, and 3.wmv) and much to my surprise, TMPGEnc converted each of
them to mpg files. Good.

My hesitant summary at this point (in real time) is that while TMPEnc
doesn't seem to concatonate mpg files, it does convert the wmv files
to mpg which may simplify our task somewhat since we can now get all
the short movie files in the same format.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:59:32 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> My hesitant summary at this point (in real time) is that while TMPEnc
> doesn't seem to concatonate mpg files, it does convert the wmv files
> to mpg which may simplify our task somewhat since we can now get all
> the short movie files in the same format.

I should have noted for this real-time learning experience, that the
three test mov files also converted to mpg by the TMPGEnc program.

According to TMPGEnc, they were converted to mpeg-1 files as shown in
the log file below ....

Video-CD NTSC (MPEG-1 352x240 29.97fps CBR 1150kbps, Layer-2 44100Hz
224kbps).

Based on the fact that the newly installed MediaLab Stockholm
mpegprop.exe program says these mpg files are "VideoCD" and the fact
that TMPGEnc says above they are Video-CD (MPEG-1), I'm going to
assume Video-CD is the same as MPEG-1 and that I can now get all our
files into this MPEG-1 format.

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:11:26 GMT, Sondra R. Wilson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> My hesitant summary at this point (in real time) is that while TMPGEnc
>> doesn't seem to concatonate mpg files, it does convert wmv & mov
>> files to mpg

I just realized that TMPGEnc DOES concatonate files - but not in the
way we at first imagined.

TMPGEnc seems to concatonate what it calls the "Video source" from one
file with what it calls the "Audio source" from the same or another
file to create the final mpg file. (In all my tests so far, both
sources were from the same file.)

Since we need to concatonate complete mpg, mov, and wmv files, this
feature of TMPGEnc, while interesting, is not the concatonation we
were looking for.

So I'm going to abandon TMPGEnc in favor of some other program for the
purpose of concatonation (but I will use TMPGEnc for converting the
mov, mpg, and wmv files to MPEG-1 so that at least they are all of the
same format).