please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every other 2
days.

possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would be the
first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.

points could include

1. what OS works.
2. cost
3. common errors and possible solutions
4. blah blah blah

Someone please !!!

Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the hideodorous
web interface - people only read the first page of posts, only IE can
effectively let you expand threads conveniently, and the search function
apparently doesn't work which makes these ng's much less effective than they
could be - the same dozen questions and problems get posted over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over

You get the point -


"D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every
> other 2 days.
>
> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would be
> the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>
> points could include
>
> 1. what OS works.
> 2. cost
> 3. common errors and possible solutions
> 4. blah blah blah
>
> Someone please !!!
>
>
>

Hi there:

I asked about the possibility of simply adding another
Selection Section to this MS NG such as "Read This First"
ages ago and got the answer "Little to none" from Steve D
or Ron C...Of course I can't remember exactly which one
it was now as the "Search" function has been down for
months now....Apparently "weeks" in Redmond are different
than the rest of the world!

What I'm starting to wonder about is this entire process
of this particular Beta product. Is MS ramping up for
the final release of the products, people wise? The
Enterprise product will have a cost to it for the
business section. Why aren't we starting to see answers
coming from the MSAS techs who will be covering the Tech
Support for the final products?

What other commerical product uses strickly volunteers
for tech support? Not that some of these volunteers
couldn't handle it, but from the sheer volume,
responsibilty and liability that come into the pic with a
commerical product.

BobA5835

OK
no more nice guy
anyone asking a frequently asked question will get a nasty reply

( aren't we frustrated with the newbies????????????????????????????????????????)

"JohnF." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:OrJc$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the hideodorous web
> interface - people only read the first page of posts, only IE can effectively
> let you expand threads conveniently, and the search function apparently
> doesn't work which makes these ng's much less effective than they could be -
> the same dozen questions and problems get posted over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
> and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
> over and over and over
>
> You get the point -
>
>
> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every other
>> 2 days.
>>
>> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would be
>> the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>>
>> points could include
>>
>> 1. what OS works.
>> 2. cost
>> 3. common errors and possible solutions
>> 4. blah blah blah
>>
>> Someone please !!!
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I think it's time to get nasty to get rid of the newbies
curiousity kills the cat

It's indeed very frustrating to see the newbies testing MSAS because they don't
know what's in for them
and when their system breaks, they blame MS

I am no expert, but I love beta testing and I know the precautions that I have
to take


BobA5835 wrote in news:039801c54a64$e83660b0$(E-Mail Removed)
> Hi there:
>
> I asked about the possibility of simply adding another
> Selection Section to this MS NG such as "Read This First"
> ages ago and got the answer "Little to none" from Steve D
> or Ron C...Of course I can't remember exactly which one
> it was now as the "Search" function has been down for
> months now....Apparently "weeks" in Redmond are different
> than the rest of the world!
>
> What I'm starting to wonder about is this entire process
> of this particular Beta product. Is MS ramping up for
> the final release of the products, people wise? The
> Enterprise product will have a cost to it for the
> business section. Why aren't we starting to see answers
> coming from the MSAS techs who will be covering the Tech
> Support for the final products?
>
> What other commerical product uses strickly volunteers
> for tech support? Not that some of these volunteers
> couldn't handle it, but from the sheer volume,
> responsibilty and liability that come into the pic with a
> commerical product.
>
> BobA5835
>

I don't want to run people off, but I sure do wish there was a more obvious
way for newbies to find their answers quickly and effectively - they need
help like anyone else does and the inability to provide a forum where the
answers rise to the top and can be picked like ripe fruit is limiting what
can be accomplished in these ng's.

Looking for an original new problem is getting to be like skimming through
spam to find your real email messages!




"D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK
> no more nice guy
> anyone asking a frequently asked question will get a nasty reply
>
> ( aren't we frustrated with the
> newbies????????????????????????????????????????)
>
> "JohnF." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OrJc$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the hideodorous
>> web interface - people only read the first page of posts, only IE can
>> effectively let you expand threads conveniently, and the search function
>> apparently doesn't work which makes these ng's much less effective than
>> they could be - the same dozen questions and problems get posted over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
>>
>> You get the point -
>>
>>
>> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every
>>> other 2 days.
>>>
>>> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would
>>> be the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>>>
>>> points could include
>>>
>>> 1. what OS works.
>>> 2. cost
>>> 3. common errors and possible solutions
>>> 4. blah blah blah
>>>
>>> Someone please !!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Yeah, I don't think its wise to chase away people when you need the
feedback.
--

Andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"JohnF." <everett.mcgill@remove_this_to.email.gmail.com.me> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I don't want to run people off, but I sure do wish there was a more obvious
>way for newbies to find their answers quickly and effectively - they need
>help like anyone else does and the inability to provide a forum where the
>answers rise to the top and can be picked like ripe fruit is limiting what
>can be accomplished in these ng's.
>
> Looking for an original new problem is getting to be like skimming through
> spam to find your real email messages!
>
>
>
>
> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> OK
>> no more nice guy
>> anyone asking a frequently asked question will get a nasty reply
>>
>> ( aren't we frustrated with the
>> newbies????????????????????????????????????????)
>>
>> "JohnF." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:OrJc$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the
>>> hideodorous web interface - people only read the first page of posts,
>>> only IE can effectively let you expand threads conveniently, and the
>>> search function apparently doesn't work which makes these ng's much less
>>> effective than they could be - the same dozen questions and problems get
>>> posted over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over
>>>
>>> You get the point -
>>>
>>>
>>> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every
>>>> other 2 days.
>>>>
>>>> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would
>>>> be the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>>>>
>>>> points could include
>>>>
>>>> 1. what OS works.
>>>> 2. cost
>>>> 3. common errors and possible solutions
>>>> 4. blah blah blah
>>>>
>>>> Someone please !!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Andre Da Costa wrote:
> Yeah, I don't think its wise to chase away people when you need the
> feedback.

I can´t understand how MS can maintain this form of support
forum.

This great software company must be able to do a smart mix
between a modern
board forum with the old fashioned newsgroup way with threads.

- Pinned messages, "FAQ" and "What to do before posting".

- Search function but I think this can be off on purpose... ?!

And of course we cant chase away these users, it is not
their fault.

MS come on ! this is a disgrace !


--
plun

Sorry D@nnyBoy but I must tell what I think about you and your, sometimes,
very unfriendly answers.
I have been reading some of your posts/answers and must say that this
"newbie" talking you are doing is not so very kind and friendly.

I can agree with you that it would be nice and useful having a FAQ and etc.
that people who are new into posting to NG's could read, or at least should
read even if they do not, but your talking is definitely not something that
makes me even recognizing you as a knowledgeable, educated, nice and mature
person. All I see is someone who tries to be as "someone who knows and can".
Take a look back and see some of the answers you have provided...are you
proud over your knowledge? Sorry for my words.
I can say that I can't so much but at least I am not pretending to know
either.

Best,

Gunilla.


"D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK
> no more nice guy
> anyone asking a frequently asked question will get a nasty reply
>
> ( aren't we frustrated with the
> newbies????????????????????????????????????????)
>
> "JohnF." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:OrJc$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the hideodorous
>> web interface - people only read the first page of posts, only IE can
>> effectively let you expand threads conveniently, and the search function
>> apparently doesn't work which makes these ng's much less effective than
>> they could be - the same dozen questions and problems get posted over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
>>
>> You get the point -
>>
>>
>> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every
>>> other 2 days.
>>>
>>> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would
>>> be the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>>>
>>> points could include
>>>
>>> 1. what OS works.
>>> 2. cost
>>> 3. common errors and possible solutions
>>> 4. blah blah blah
>>>
>>> Someone please !!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Sorry...it should had been - "Are you proud over your answers" and not
knowledge.

Gunilla

"Gunilla" <kakaomumsathotmaildotcom> skrev i meddelandet
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sorry D@nnyBoy but I must tell what I think about you and your,
> sometimes, very unfriendly answers.
> I have been reading some of your posts/answers and must say that this
> "newbie" talking you are doing is not so very kind and friendly.
>
> I can agree with you that it would be nice and useful having a FAQ and
> etc. that people who are new into posting to NG's could read, or at least
> should read even if they do not, but your talking is definitely not
> something that makes me even recognizing you as a knowledgeable, educated,
> nice and mature person. All I see is someone who tries to be as "someone
> who knows and can". Take a look back and see some of the answers you have
> provided...are you proud over your knowledge? Sorry for my words.
> I can say that I can't so much but at least I am not pretending to know
> either.
>
> Best,
>
> Gunilla.
>
>
> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> skrev i meddelandet
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> OK
>> no more nice guy
>> anyone asking a frequently asked question will get a nasty reply
>>
>> ( aren't we frustrated with the
>> newbies????????????????????????????????????????)
>>
>> "JohnF." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:OrJc$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Someone tried that way back in January but the problem is the
>>> hideodorous web interface - people only read the first page of posts,
>>> only IE can effectively let you expand threads conveniently, and the
>>> search function apparently doesn't work which makes these ng's much less
>>> effective than they could be - the same dozen questions and problems get
>>> posted over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
>>> over and over
>>>
>>> You get the point -
>>>
>>>
>>> "D@annyBoy {4XX961}" <origin@ld@(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> please write a short FAQ on MSAS and post it to every newsgroups, every
>>>> other 2 days.
>>>>
>>>> possible heading could be "Read this FAQ" before posting and this would
>>>> be the first I wouldn't mind if anyone post it with a future date.
>>>>
>>>> points could include
>>>>
>>>> 1. what OS works.
>>>> 2. cost
>>>> 3. common errors and possible solutions
>>>> 4. blah blah blah
>>>>
>>>> Someone please !!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>