Hello Newsgroup,

If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
installation? Please refer to the link below.

http://100777.com/node/1120

- WindPipe

"WindPipe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Hello Newsgroup,
>
> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>
> http://100777.com/node/1120
>
> - WindPipe


I should take most of that with a VERY large pinch of salt....

WindPipe wrote:
> Hello Newsgroup,
>
> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>
> http://100777.com/node/1120
>

Basic question: "Is WindowsXP" a bugging device?"

Maybe. Maybe not. Who cares?

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.

HeyBub wrote:
> WindPipe wrote:
>> Hello Newsgroup,
>>
>> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
>> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>>
>> http://100777.com/node/1120
>>
>
> Basic question: "Is WindowsXP" a bugging device?"
>
> Maybe. Maybe not. Who cares?
>
> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.
>
>

Tell that to all the innocent people who were imprisoned for murder that
were proved innocent decades later through DNA. Tell that to the 8 year
olds and 80 year olds that ended up on a terrorist list (including Ted
Kennedy!). Tell that to the hundreds of people imprisoned in the USA
without charges or legal counsel. Tell that to the people who were
secretly taken to a secret Eastern European prison and tortured by the CIA.

You're pretty naive, Bub.

Alias

Much of it is true. XP is spyware, in the
sense that it calls home without permission.
Media Player is spyware. They say so in the EULA,
which states that you agree to that! There was
a controversy recently when Microsoft updated
the automatic updates system files remotely, even
for people who had AU disabled! So clearly the
AU system was calling home without permission, and
was able to download files and make system changes
without permission.

A bugging device, though, implies some sort of malicious
intent. I think with Microsoft it's the same deal as with
Google, Doubleclick, Apple, AOL, etc.: They're greedy
and they don't respect their customers. Therefore
they are constantly striving for new gimmicks and
strategies to "monetize" the product. These days that
means finding out more about you so that they can
make more money showing you ads. In the case of Windows
and Microsoft, there's also an interest in keeping tech.
support costs down by keeping the workings of the system
out of the hands of the end users.

What can be done? You really have to take responsibility
for the whole thing if you want to avoid those intrusions.

* Use a two-way firewall and understand its use.

* Research Windows services and turn off the unnecessary ones.

* Avoid using MS software online. (That's also critical advice
for avoiding virus infections, "drive-by downloads", etc.)

* At this point, if you really want privacy online, you need
to disable scripting whenever possible and treat the Internet
as an information resource, not an interactive medium.


> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>
> http://100777.com/node/1120
>
> - WindPipe

"Alias" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:u%23Q$(E-Mail Removed)...
> HeyBub wrote:
>> WindPipe wrote:
>>> Hello Newsgroup,
>>>
>>> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
>>> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>>>
>>> http://100777.com/node/1120
>>>
>>
>> Basic question: "Is WindowsXP" a bugging device?"
>>
>> Maybe. Maybe not. Who cares?
>>
>> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.
>
> Tell that to all the innocent people who were imprisoned for murder that
> were proved innocent decades later through DNA. Tell that to the 8 year
> olds and 80 year olds that ended up on a terrorist list (including Ted
> Kennedy!). Tell that to the hundreds of people imprisoned in the USA
> without charges or legal counsel. Tell that to the people who were
> secretly taken to a secret Eastern European prison and tortured by the
> CIA.
>
> You're pretty naive, Bub.
>
> Alias

Putting Ted Kennedy on a terrorist list gives a bad name to terrorists
everywhere.

Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:
> "Alias" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:u%23Q$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> HeyBub wrote:
>>> WindPipe wrote:
>>>> Hello Newsgroup,
>>>>
>>>> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
>>>> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>>>>
>>>> http://100777.com/node/1120
>>>>
>>> Basic question: "Is WindowsXP" a bugging device?"
>>>
>>> Maybe. Maybe not. Who cares?
>>>
>>> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.
>> Tell that to all the innocent people who were imprisoned for murder that
>> were proved innocent decades later through DNA. Tell that to the 8 year
>> olds and 80 year olds that ended up on a terrorist list (including Ted
>> Kennedy!). Tell that to the hundreds of people imprisoned in the USA
>> without charges or legal counsel. Tell that to the people who were
>> secretly taken to a secret Eastern European prison and tortured by the
>> CIA.
>>
>> You're pretty naive, Bub.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Putting Ted Kennedy on a terrorist list gives a bad name to terrorists
> everywhere.
>
>

So are you a Sirhan Sirhan fan? Jack Ruby fan? Oswald fan? Nixon fan?
Bush fan? Reagan fan? A creep who likes terrorists?

Alias

Alias <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> Putting Ted Kennedy on a terrorist list gives a bad name to terrorists
>> everywhere.
>
>So are you a Sirhan Sirhan fan? Jack Ruby fan? Oswald fan? Nixon fan?
>Bush fan? Reagan fan? A creep who likes terrorists?

It's obvious to anyone but a moron that he's NOT a Ted Kennedy fan.
All the other crap you bring into the OT conversation is your own
fantasy/problem.

Thank you mayayana,

It is the corporate-marketing aspect (propagada industry) which amazes
me more than the phony terrorist, or big brother (big mother!) rhetoric
that came off my original post (and the propagada industry).

Your post does explain the extent these people will go through to "know"
(not personally) about you.

Thanks and regards,

- WindPipe



mayayana wrote:
> Much of it is true. XP is spyware, in the
> sense that it calls home without permission.
> Media Player is spyware. They say so in the EULA,
> which states that you agree to that! There was
> a controversy recently when Microsoft updated
> the automatic updates system files remotely, even
> for people who had AU disabled! So clearly the
> AU system was calling home without permission, and
> was able to download files and make system changes
> without permission.
>
> A bugging device, though, implies some sort of malicious
> intent. I think with Microsoft it's the same deal as with
> Google, Doubleclick, Apple, AOL, etc.: They're greedy
> and they don't respect their customers. Therefore
> they are constantly striving for new gimmicks and
> strategies to "monetize" the product. These days that
> means finding out more about you so that they can
> make more money showing you ads. In the case of Windows
> and Microsoft, there's also an interest in keeping tech.
> support costs down by keeping the workings of the system
> out of the hands of the end users.
>
> What can be done? You really have to take responsibility
> for the whole thing if you want to avoid those intrusions.
>
> * Use a two-way firewall and understand its use.
>
> * Research Windows services and turn off the unnecessary ones.
>
> * Avoid using MS software online. (That's also critical advice
> for avoiding virus infections, "drive-by downloads", etc.)
>
> * At this point, if you really want privacy online, you need
> to disable scripting whenever possible and treat the Internet
> as an information resource, not an interactive medium.
>
>
>> If any of this true, what can be done to secure a Windows XP SP2+
>> installation? Please refer to the link below.
>>
>> http://100777.com/node/1120
>>
>> - WindPipe
>
>

HeyBub wrote:

> If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.

You have never been asked to strip in public HeyBub...? ;~D)

- WindPipe