It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
pain to use. Thx

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:44:04 -0700, Burma wrote:

> It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
> them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
> continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
> that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
> The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
> pain to use. Thx

If you use those devices you will need to accept lower quality from both
appearance and image life as well as risk your printhead to an unknown
source since those who market unbranded ink will not tell you either the
source or if they even change their supplier.

They do not properly disclose this on their website prominently nor will
they tell you by phone. I called three of them and they would not tell
me. One supplier was nice but still would not tell me. One was the rif
raf of the industry and I do not think they are in business any more.

There are businessman in this ng and other fools that will reply and
dispute this. I sugguest you call the suppliers and ask them yourself.

They vary in quality, instructions, ease to install and ease of use, as
well as design.

The closest you will get to CIS in a OEM printer, are some of the larger
wide format printers which can use cartridges up to 300ml in size/volume
per color. These cartridges don;t come cheap and often also have a
chip built on/in them to monitor your inks and can make them
non-refillable.

Consider refillable 3rd party ink cartridges as a possible best of both
worlds.

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Burma wrote:
> It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
> them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
> continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
> that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
> The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
> pain to use. Thx

So you're saying stick to the manufacturer's ink. So if the continuous
ink system was built-in to the printer by the printer manufacturer and the
ink for it was available from them that would be OK. I'm simply asking if
any of the printer manufacturers have come out with a printer like that:
one that has a continuous ink system built-in to it? Thanks

measekite wrote, On 4/30/2009 6:40 PM:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:44:04 -0700, Burma wrote:
>
>> It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
>> them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
>> continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
>> that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
>> The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
>> pain to use. Thx
>
> If you use those devices you will need to accept lower quality from both
> appearance and image life as well as risk your printhead to an unknown
> source since those who market unbranded ink will not tell you either the
> source or if they even change their supplier.
>
> They do not properly disclose this on their website prominently nor will
> they tell you by phone. I called three of them and they would not tell
> me. One supplier was nice but still would not tell me. One was the rif
> raf of the industry and I do not think they are in business any more.
>
> There are businessman in this ng and other fools that will reply and
> dispute this. I sugguest you call the suppliers and ask them yourself.

"Burma" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:49fb2d5d$0$2702$(E-Mail Removed)...
> So you're saying stick to the manufacturer's ink. So if the continuous
> ink system was built-in to the printer by the printer manufacturer and the
> ink for it was available from them that would be OK. I'm simply asking if
> any of the printer manufacturers have come out with a printer like that:
> one that has a continuous ink system built-in to it? Thanks
>
> measekite wrote, On 4/30/2009 6:40 PM: his usual diatribe
(snip)

Burma - Measekite has been spewing this nonsense, nearly verbatum, for the
more than five years I've participated in this newsgroup. He has never
tried any of the aftermarket inks but continually disparages them. Some may
be damaging to printers or be totally junk, but there are a few brands that
are quite good. The one that I use, Image Specialists, has inks that are
formulated specifically for my Canon printers and produces excellent photo
prints using the Canon printer profiles. I haven't seen fading in prints
that are framed and more than five years old, and prints in albums for the
same period of time still look excellent. There is very little that
Measekite has posted that is of value to anyone, and his "contribution" to
information about aftermarket inks is less than zero. Pay no attention to
him. Most of us have him killfiled and only see his misinformation when
someone includes it in a response.

Prior to the most recent Canon printer line, refilling cartridges was easy.
Earlier carts had no chips on them that recorded when the cart was empty, so
there was no problem using a refilled cart. The next generation of carts
had a chip that was designed to prevent using it after it registered empty,
even when it was refilled. A chip resetter did come onto the market that
reset the chip on the cart to signal the printer that it was full, thus
permitting the user to refill and reused it. The most recent generation of
Canon printers has a cart with a newly designed chip (and smaller ink
capacity), and I don't know if the resetter works on it now. Unless you are
printing an extremely large volume of work, refilling carts works quite
well. I don't know anything about the other manufacturer printers and
refilling. I do know that some of the older Epsons had aftermarket carts
that were good for refilling and people have also refilled certain of the HP
carts.

On Fri, 01 May 2009 10:11:59 -0700, Burma wrote:

> So you're saying stick to the manufacturer's ink. So if the continuous
> ink system was built-in to the printer by the printer manufacturer and the
> ink for it was available from them that would be OK. I'm simply asking if
> any of the printer manufacturers have come out with a printer like that:
> one that has a continuous ink system built-in to it? Thanks
>
> measekite wrote, On 4/30/2009 6:40 PM:
>> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:44:04 -0700, Burma wrote:
>>
>>> It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
>>> them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
>>> continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
>>> that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
>>> The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
>>> pain to use. Thx
>>
>> If you use those devices you will need to accept lower quality from both
>> appearance and image life as well as risk your printhead to an unknown
>> source since those who market unbranded ink will not tell you either the
>> source or if they even change their supplier.
>>
>> They do not properly disclose this on their website prominently nor will
>> they tell you by phone. I called three of them and they would not tell
>> me. One supplier was nice but still would not tell me. One was the rif
>> raf of the industry and I do not think they are in business any more.
>>
>> There are businessman in this ng and other fools that will reply and
>> dispute this. I sugguest you call the suppliers and ask them yourself.

No

I do not think they will.

On May 1, 10:11*am, Burma <someb...@somedomain.not> wrote:
> So you're saying stick to the manufacturer's ink. *So if the continuous
> ink system was built-in to the printer by the printer manufacturer and the
> ink for it was available from them that would be OK. *I'm simply askingif
> any of the printer manufacturers have come out with a printer like that:
> one that has a continuous ink system built-in to it?

As someone else pointed out, there are options in the wideformat and
or business jet class for huge 110ml + sized cartridges.. These are
likely easier to outfit with a cis than desktop models that sport
tanks on the printhead. But the wideformat class (a2 and above) star
at a couple of grand. A3+ printers plus a CISS would without a doubt
be cheaper.

Burma <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> It seems like all the printer manufacturers want you to buy ink from
> them and lots of it. I see a lot of people trying to save money with
> continuous ink supply systems. Does anyone know of any printers
> that have some sort of continuous ink supply system built into them?
> The continuous ink supply systems I've read about sound like a real
> pain to use. Thx

Yes, but you will have to install them yourself. If you read and know
it's a real pain then don't use it.