Hello! It is that time of the year to upgrade my aging gaming system to
an AMD Athlon 64. I need to know if these two MSI K8T Neo (FIS2R and
FSR) are good for my setup. They are VIA K8T800 and Socket 754.

http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt shows my
current configuration and setup for the primary/gaming computer. I will
be replacing/removing its CPU, motherboard, RAM, sound card, NIC, and
Red Hat Linux 7.2 (going to install Debian to coexists with XP Pro.). I
am planning to get a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card. Everything else will
be the same and untouched, including my HDD partitions (planning a
repair install in Windows XP). Note that I have 5 IDE devices. Yes, I
am crazy.

My biggest issue is how compatible will the motherboard be with Debian?
Will the latest Kernel 2.4 driver be enough? I hope this motherboard is
mature and stable enough with all issues out of the way with the latest
revision and BIOS.

I mainly use this box for gaming (newest and upcoming games)n both
Windows and Debian, Internet stuff, Debian, Windows, graphic work,
simple video editing, watching video from TV and movies, etc.

Any tips and suggestions are welcomed. Thank you in advance.
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> Hello! It is that time of the year to upgrade my aging gaming system to
> an AMD Athlon 64. I need to know if these two MSI K8T Neo (FIS2R and
> FSR) are good for my setup. They are VIA K8T800 and Socket 754.

I would strongly recommend you *NOT* buy any system based on a VIA chipset.
At best you'll end up with a mother board that does not preform as well as
an nVidia system. Typically, however you'll end up with a system that has
all kinds of fun "quirks". I know that MSI makes a couple of nice high end
system boards based on the nForce3 chipset, if you want to get one of their
bords I would suggest you look into one of those. Right now I'm running a
Chaintech ZNF3-250 and am fairly happy with it.

Carlo

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So like, how many NG's are you going to x-post to, troll?

J.

Ordinarily, I would stay about a mile away from any newsgroup thread
that some drooling cretin has cross-posted across SEVEN newsgroups.
(Grow up, guy.) However, I'm able to (barely) justify joining this
misbegotten thread because of I'm setting followups to ONE newsgroup --
long enough to ask this question:

In comp.os.linux.hardware Carlo Razzeto <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I would strongly recommend you *NOT* buy any system based on a VIA chipset.
> At best you'll end up with a mother board that does not preform as well as
> an nVidia system. Typically, however you'll end up with a system that has
> all kinds of fun "quirks". I know that MSI makes a couple of nice high end
> system boards based on the nForce3 chipset, if you want to get one of their
> bords I would suggest you look into one of those.

So, are there any nForce3 motherboard chipset variants at all that can
be used on Linux without resorting to binary-only, proprietary drivers
from nVidia? If not, kindly disclose that when you recommend such
things, since we're not all clueless Windows gamers with no regard for
the lessons of Linux history.

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"Carlo Razzeto" <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsfKdnXzJA9E59NDcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello! It is that time of the year to upgrade my aging gaming system to
> > an AMD Athlon 64. I need to know if these two MSI K8T Neo (FIS2R and
> > FSR) are good for my setup. They are VIA K8T800 and Socket 754.
>
> I would strongly recommend you *NOT* buy any system based on a VIA chipset.

Please list particular models and their problems here:

http://leenooks.com/69

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> > Hello! It is that time of the year to upgrade my aging gaming system to
> > an AMD Athlon 64. I need to know if these two MSI K8T Neo (FIS2R and
> > FSR) are good for my setup. They are VIA K8T800 and Socket 754.

> I would strongly recommend you *NOT* buy any system based on a VIA chipset.
> At best you'll end up with a mother board that does not preform as well as
> an nVidia system. Typically, however you'll end up with a system that has
> all kinds of fun "quirks". I know that MSI makes a couple of nice high end
> system boards based on the nForce3 chipset, if you want to get one of their
> bords I would suggest you look into one of those. Right now I'm running a
> Chaintech ZNF3-250 and am fairly happy with it.

Aren't all nForce3 chipset require they require 939 CPUs? Those CPUs
cost too much especially 3500+. I'm not that rich!
--
"Oh, look what Kyle got me, it's a red Mega... Ants in the pants? Ants
in the pants?! Ants in the Pants?!! ..." --Eric Cartman in South Park's
Damien Episode (Season 1; Episode 8)
/\___/\
/ /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
| |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
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<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Aren't all nForce3 chipset require they require 939 CPUs? Those CPUs
> cost too much especially 3500+. I'm not that rich!
> --
> "Oh, look what Kyle got me, it's a red Mega... Ants in the pants? Ants
> in the pants?! Ants in the Pants?!! ..." --Eric Cartman in South Park's
> Damien Episode (Season 1; Episode 8)
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
> | |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
> \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
> ( )

I'm running my Athlon64 3000+ Socket 754 CPU on an nForce3 250 chipset.

CArlo

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 06:12:36 -0500, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Hello! It is that time of the year to upgrade my aging gaming system to
>an AMD Athlon 64. I need to know if these two MSI K8T Neo (FIS2R and
>FSR) are good for my setup. They are VIA K8T800 and Socket 754.

I don't do any Linux.... yet but I have a couple of the MSI K8T Neo FSRs in
the office which have been running WinXP fine on fairly intensive
compiling/assembly product develoment work, fairly numerically intensive
(linear programming) stuff and the usual general browsing & office
software.

My only bleat is that one has a SATA drive and the HDD LED does not work
with the (VIA chipset) SATA - from what I gathered it's a mbrd issue which
cannot be corrected with a BIOS update though later mbrds *may* have been
fixed. Other than that everything was as smooth as I've seen for install &
running of XP.

>http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt shows my
>current configuration and setup for the primary/gaming computer. I will
>be replacing/removing its CPU, motherboard, RAM, sound card, NIC, and
>Red Hat Linux 7.2 (going to install Debian to coexists with XP Pro.). I
>am planning to get a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 card. Everything else will
>be the same and untouched, including my HDD partitions (planning a
>repair install in Windows XP). Note that I have 5 IDE devices. Yes, I
>am crazy.

I've personally never had an issue with a VIA chipset based mbrd but then
I've never used one with any exotic add-in cards... something which others
claim can be troublesome. For you the Sound Blaster (Anything) raises a
bit of a red flag with a VIA chipset - dunno if current VIA chips have
resolved such issues but certainly something to search for. I believe
there have also been issues in the past with video capture boards which
would seem to be something you should research before spending $$.

>My biggest issue is how compatible will the motherboard be with Debian?
>Will the latest Kernel 2.4 driver be enough? I hope this motherboard is
>mature and stable enough with all issues out of the way with the latest
>revision and BIOS.
>
>I mainly use this box for gaming (newest and upcoming games)n both
>Windows and Debian, Internet stuff, Debian, Windows, graphic work,
>simple video editing, watching video from TV and movies, etc.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??