I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
SP2.

I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?








--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
> SP2.
>
> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>
> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>
> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>
> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery
disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with
your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another
disk?

You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an
OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create
a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

I would never run a system without having a Windows
installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.
If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do
so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
Pegasus \(MVP\) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
>> SP2.
>>
>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>>
>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>>
>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>>
>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?
>
>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery
>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with
>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another
>disk?
>
>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an
>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create
>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.
>
>I would never run a system without having a Windows
>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.
>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do
>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.


I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it
as-is, without a distro CD.

To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file
system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I
have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.





--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

Just copy the cd with any burning software. You can also make a
slipstreamed cd using your OEM cd and the SP2 for IT Professionals download
with a program like nLite.

"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:frpai0$ot7$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Pegasus \(MVP\) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>>>
>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>>>
>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>>>
>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery
>>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with
>>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another
>>disk?
>>
>>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an
>>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create
>>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.
>>
>>I would never run a system without having a Windows
>>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.
>>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do
>>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.
>
>
> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it
> as-is, without a distro CD.
>
> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file
> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I
> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Al Dykes
> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is
> advertising.
> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
>

it won't work, your recovery depends on enering an install key, OEM keys are
different from Retail keys, if you tried to use your OEM key it would tell
you the install key is invalid.

You would be better off, if you purchased an image program and also an
external HD to make a clone of your system, and update the clone from time to
time.

"Al Dykes" wrote:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Pegasus \(MVP\) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
> >> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
> >> SP2.
> >>
> >> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
> >>
> >> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
> >>
> >> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
> >>
> >> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
> >> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?
> >
> >I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery
> >disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with
> >your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another
> >disk?
> >
> >You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an
> >OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create
> >a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.
> >
> >I would never run a system without having a Windows
> >installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.
> >If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do
> >so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.
>
>
> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it
> as-is, without a distro CD.
>
> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file
> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I
> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Al Dykes
> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
>
>

"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:frpai0$ot7$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Pegasus \(MVP\) <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>
>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>>>
>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>>>
>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>>>
>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery
>>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with
>>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another
>>disk?
>>
>>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an
>>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create
>>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.
>>
>>I would never run a system without having a Windows
>>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.
>>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do
>>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.
>
>
> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it
> as-is, without a distro CD.
>
> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file
> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I
> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

You can use xcopy.exe to copy the WinXP installation CD
to a hard disk although I don't see the point of this method.
I would prefer to have a bootable installation CD.

Before relying on being able to install WinXP under a Bart
PE boot, you should test this method. I did and I failed - the
installation process keeps running round in circles without
getting anywhere.

Al Dykes wrote:

>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
>>> SP2.
>>>
>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>>>
>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>>>
>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>>>
>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it
> as-is, without a distro CD.
>
> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file
> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I
> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

There are actually two issues here, neither of which has anything to do with
the other.

1. Having a real operating system install disk instead of a restore disk

Your legal right to run Windows is the Product Key. If there is a COA
sticker on the computer case, that's your Product Key. You will need an XP
Pro generic OEM disk to use it. There is absolutely no problem whatsoever
borrowing an XP Pro OEM disk and copying it. Make sure you get all drivers
and laptop-specific software from the laptop mftr.'s website and burn them
to CD-R for later.

You simply need burning software that will copy a CD. If you don't have
Roxio or Nero, there are many free programs that will do it. IIRC
CDBurnerXP Pro will copy a CD but if it doesn't, here are some other links
that will help you find one:

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ - CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilit...dburning.shtml
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/
http://www.cdfreaks.com/software/

2. Bart's PE

Bart's PE disks are most often used in data rescue and other repair work
such as virus/malware scanning from outside the operating system, etc., not
to reinstall Windows. You can't reinstall Windows with a Bart's PE and
that's why it is legal to make one. You can use either the borrowed XP Pro
OEM or any other borrowed XP CD to create a Bart's PE. Here is a link to
the Bart's site; IIRC there are very active user forums/links which will
answer all your questions about creating and using a Bart's PE.

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

Hope this helped,

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

In article <5565EE98-1A36-45B3-B9EA-(E-Mail Removed)>,
=?Utf-8?B?c2dvcHVz?= <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>it won't work, your recovery depends on enering an install key, OEM keys are
>different from Retail keys, if you tried to use your OEM key it would tell
>you the install key is invalid.
>
>You would be better off, if you purchased an image program and also an
>external HD to make a clone of your system, and update the clone from time to
>time.



Thanks. I figured something would bite me. That's why I asked in such
detail.

--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

If you have i386 folder in your primary partition try this to create windows
xp installation disk
http://www.howtohaven.com/system/cre...etupdisk.shtml



"Al Dykes" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:frp8ac$miv$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come
> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to
> SP2.
>
> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.
>
> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.
>
> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?
>
> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any
> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Al Dykes
> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is
> advertising.
> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
>