Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that they start up when Win2000 starts up and run
automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or disabling two services that it wants at startup. In
other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
me figure out how to undo this.

What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console, and look in the Properties for either of these
services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual. But when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
without making any changes.

Any suggestions?

John

"jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:qMu1k.1$u%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that they
> start up when Win2000 starts up and run
> automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from
> automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
> antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or disabling
> two services that it wants at startup. In
> other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I
> uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
> me figure out how to undo this.
>
> What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console, and
> look in the Properties for either of these
> services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual. But
> when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
> that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can
> only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
> without making any changes.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> John
>
>

Services (and their startup types) are defined here:
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
You might find that the Avast service has restrictive
permissions. Use regedt32.exe to modify them.
Alternatively, check the Avast FAQs.

Did you look in the program's options? From within the program you
should be able to configure things to your preferences.

John

jbclem wrote:

> Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that they start up when Win2000 starts up and run
> automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
> antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or disabling two services that it wants at startup. In
> other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
> me figure out how to undo this.
>
> What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console, and look in the Properties for either of these
> services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual. But when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
> that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
> without making any changes.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> John
>
>

Just the kind of information I was looking for, I'd forgotten how permissions were modified. But I've looked at the
registry section you mentioned, and when I check under Security/Permissions for various Avast keys, the word Permissions
is grayed out. I seem to recall there is a way to change this but I don't remember how. Can you help me with this.

John


"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:qMu1k.1$u%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that they
> > start up when Win2000 starts up and run
> > automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from
> > automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
> > antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or disabling
> > two services that it wants at startup. In
> > other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I
> > uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
> > me figure out how to undo this.
> >
> > What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console, and
> > look in the Properties for either of these
> > services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual. But
> > when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
> > that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can
> > only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
> > without making any changes.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
> Services (and their startup types) are defined here:
> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
> You might find that the Avast service has restrictive
> permissions. Use regedt32.exe to modify them.
> Alternatively, check the Avast FAQs.
>
>

Looked both in the Options and in the help files, but no mention that I could find. This looks like a deliberate change
from the previous version, where I could change the services designation without a problem.

John



"John John (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Did you look in the program's options? From within the program you
> should be able to configure things to your preferences.
>
> John
>
> jbclem wrote:
>
> > Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that they start up when Win2000 starts up and run
> > automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
> > antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or disabling two services that it wants at startup. In
> > other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I uninstall this arrogant program, can someone
help
> > me figure out how to undo this.
> >
> > What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console, and look in the Properties for either of these
> > services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual. But when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes
up
> > that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can only click on Cancel to close the Properties
box
> > without making any changes.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > John
> >
> >

I won't have access to a Win2000 PC until much later but if
I recall correctly then you may need to seize ownership of
protected keys before you can modify their security settings.


"jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:hmG1k.258$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Just the kind of information I was looking for, I'd forgotten how
> permissions were modified. But I've looked at the
> registry section you mentioned, and when I check under
> Security/Permissions for various Avast keys, the word Permissions
> is grayed out. I seem to recall there is a way to change this but I don't
> remember how. Can you help me with this.
>
> John
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:qMu1k.1$u%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that
>> > they
>> > start up when Win2000 starts up and run
>> > automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from
>> > automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
>> > antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or
>> > disabling
>> > two services that it wants at startup. In
>> > other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I
>> > uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
>> > me figure out how to undo this.
>> >
>> > What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console,
>> > and
>> > look in the Properties for either of these
>> > services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual.
>> > But
>> > when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
>> > that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can
>> > only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
>> > without making any changes.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Services (and their startup types) are defined here:
>> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
>> You might find that the Avast service has restrictive
>> permissions. Use regedt32.exe to modify them.
>> Alternatively, check the Avast FAQs.
>>
>>
>
>

I'm not sure what you mean by "seize ownership", but I checked and under one of the keys in question, I was listed on
the Owner list, but not under Permissions. I tried to add myself with "full control" permissions, checking all the
"allow" permissions, but when I tried to click on Apply or OK, a window came up that said "unable to save permission
changes on Avast Antivirus. Access is denied." I'm not allowed to change anything under this key. I can't exit this
window unless I hit ESC or undo all the changes I made.

If there's no solution I'm just going to uninstall this POS program and reinstall the earlier version.

John

"Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I won't have access to a Win2000 PC until much later but if
> I recall correctly then you may need to seize ownership of
> protected keys before you can modify their security settings.
>
>
> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:hmG1k.258$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Just the kind of information I was looking for, I'd forgotten how
> > permissions were modified. But I've looked at the
> > registry section you mentioned, and when I check under
> > Security/Permissions for various Avast keys, the word Permissions
> > is grayed out. I seem to recall there is a way to change this but I don't
> > remember how. Can you help me with this.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>
> >> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:qMu1k.1$u%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that
> >> > they
> >> > start up when Win2000 starts up and run
> >> > automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them from
> >> > automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
> >> > antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or
> >> > disabling
> >> > two services that it wants at startup. In
> >> > other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before I
> >> > uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
> >> > me figure out how to undo this.
> >> >
> >> > What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management Console,
> >> > and
> >> > look in the Properties for either of these
> >> > services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual.
> >> > But
> >> > when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
> >> > that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I can
> >> > only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
> >> > without making any changes.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions?
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Services (and their startup types) are defined here:
> >> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
> >> You might find that the Avast service has restrictive
> >> permissions. Use regedt32.exe to modify them.
> >> Alternatively, check the Avast FAQs.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Under the "Advanced" menu you can set the owner of a key,
same as you can set the owner of a folder.


"jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:LOO1k.469$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm not sure what you mean by "seize ownership", but I checked and under
> one of the keys in question, I was listed on
> the Owner list, but not under Permissions. I tried to add myself with
> "full control" permissions, checking all the
> "allow" permissions, but when I tried to click on Apply or OK, a window
> came up that said "unable to save permission
> changes on Avast Antivirus. Access is denied." I'm not allowed to change
> anything under this key. I can't exit this
> window unless I hit ESC or undo all the changes I made.
>
> If there's no solution I'm just going to uninstall this POS program and
> reinstall the earlier version.
>
> John
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I won't have access to a Win2000 PC until much later but if
>> I recall correctly then you may need to seize ownership of
>> protected keys before you can modify their security settings.
>>
>>
>> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:hmG1k.258$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Just the kind of information I was looking for, I'd forgotten how
>> > permissions were modified. But I've looked at the
>> > registry section you mentioned, and when I check under
>> > Security/Permissions for various Avast keys, the word Permissions
>> > is grayed out. I seem to recall there is a way to change this but I
>> > don't
>> > remember how. Can you help me with this.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> > "Pegasus (MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>
>> >> "jbclem" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:qMu1k.1$u%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> > Antivirus programs usually set up services(such as updating) so that
>> >> > they
>> >> > start up when Win2000 starts up and run
>> >> > automatically. I always stop these from running and switch them
>> >> > from
>> >> > automatic to manual. Today I updated my Avast
>> >> > antivirus, and it's found a way to prevent me from changing or
>> >> > disabling
>> >> > two services that it wants at startup. In
>> >> > other words, it's taken control of my computer away from me. Before
>> >> > I
>> >> > uninstall this arrogant program, can someone help
>> >> > me figure out how to undo this.
>> >> >
>> >> > What happens is that when I go into the Microsoft Management
>> >> > Console,
>> >> > and
>> >> > look in the Properties for either of these
>> >> > services, I can change the "startup type" from automatic to manual.
>> >> > But
>> >> > when I click on Apply, or OK, a box comes up
>> >> > that says "Microsoft Management Console" and "Access is Denied". I
>> >> > can
>> >> > only click on Cancel to close the Properties box
>> >> > without making any changes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any suggestions?
>> >> >
>> >> > John
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Services (and their startup types) are defined here:
>> >> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services.
>> >> You might find that the Avast service has restrictive
>> >> permissions. Use regedt32.exe to modify them.
>> >> Alternatively, check the Avast FAQs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[robert27]

hello there what it is when i try and go into a application then a box pops up and and gives me a choice of programs to start can anyone help me and tell how i can fix this please