MS Antispy b1 consistently fails to detect spyware even on full system scan.
I do a weekly scan with MS Antispy followed by Adaware which detects numeruos
spyware, something like 10-30 items each weekly scan.
Can anyone suggest a reason for this?

Hi

Adaware detects tracking cookies, MSAS not within Beta 1.
Click o the "golden lock" within Adaware and check your log files,
probably all of them are tracking cookies or gold miners.

It´s up to you to deside if you believe tracking cookies are "evil".

Microsoft will not at precense, it´s up to you !

Searchwords "debate tracking cookies"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...es&btnG=Search

So this is hot ! The major problem is that tracking cookies are used
in conjunction with spyware. The bad guys also uses them. So for me
they are "dead" ie evil.

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plun


Denis wrote :
> MS Antispy b1 consistently fails to detect spyware even on full system scan.
> I do a weekly scan with MS Antispy followed by Adaware which detects numeruos
> spyware, something like 10-30 items each weekly scan.
> Can anyone suggest a reason for this?

Good morning Denis;

Could you give us an idea of some of the spyware your other AntiSpyware
utility is finding that Microsoft AntiSpyware is not detecting? If its
anything to do with cookies, that is known issue, beta 1 does not detect
cookies.

Engel

Hi Denis

The simple answer is Adaware is finding cookies and MS Antispy doesnt scan
for cookies as they are not a threat to your system and contain no code,

You can delete cookies easily by going to start menu > C:/drive > Documents
and Settings > YourUsername > Cookies and opening that folder, Delete any you
dont want from there,

Another option is open a IE browser window and goto tools on the top bar ,
choose Internet Options then press delete cookies,

Third option is from the same page (Internet Options) press the Privacy Tab
and click Advanced - Here you can block and restrict cookies getting onto the
system but they are very usefull to remember usernames & passwords on sites
so only restrict third party cookies if you use that option.

If you take away the cookies then you will not see a big difference in scan
results but if you feel Adaware is detecting spyware that MS Antispy is
missing this is the right place to post details on that, You can copy and
paste the adaware scan results on here if you feel that its needed by using
the Lock icon on Adaware from the main menu.

Andy

Has Microsoft announced that they will eventually detect cookies that are
deemed unsavory? The selection of cookies to be killed off should be the
choice of the user. I am disturbed that Microsoft is not filtering cookies
because such activity may jeopardize some commercial relationships. I agree
that unless something is of clear benefit to me it should be blocked. The
Lavasoft free AdAware seems to do a reasonable job but probably misses some.
The problem is that new intrusive cookies are easier to create than viruses
so the list is endless. There must be some characteristic unique to trackers
and loggers that triggers an alarm (with options) upon initial attempts to
enter your PC. Some are so bad (loggers) that once they are in they send
your data "home" until your next scan.

Dick

"plun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> Adaware detects tracking cookies, MSAS not within Beta 1.
> Click o the "golden lock" within Adaware and check your log files,
> probably all of them are tracking cookies or gold miners.
>
> It´s up to you to deside if you believe tracking cookies are "evil".
>
> Microsoft will not at precense, it´s up to you !
>
> Searchwords "debate tracking cookies"
>

Tracking cookies, which many anti-spyware programs detect, are usually
installed by websites you visit so that they remember who you are when you go
back there, e.g. Amazon.com, and your browser is easier to use because of
them. Take carfeful note if you are using Yahoo antispy or other antispyware,
of the recommendations they display. They may tell you that you may want to
keep tracking cookies for the above reason. If you are suspicious of anything
you should delete it, then if you find out you wanted it just let it
re-install when you go back to the site. Strictly speaking stored ids and
passwords are tracking cookies. You may well want to keep those unless you
are a keyboardoholic.

"Denis" wrote:

> MS Antispy b1 consistently fails to detect spyware even on full system scan.
> I do a weekly scan with MS Antispy followed by Adaware which detects numeruos
> spyware, something like 10-30 items each weekly scan.
> Can anyone suggest a reason for this?

Hi

Microsoft and the other partners within the antispyware coalition
probaly talks a lot of about this challenge.

http://www.antispywarecoalition.org/ within tab "About ASC" you see
all members.

Until something is "consensus" about this it´s up to the user to
decide, we have no "Big Brother" telling us what´s right or wrong with
these.

I can understand some business needs, but I am totally against this
"click economy", really primitive ! something better must be invented.

--
plun



Adelphia wrote :
> Has Microsoft announced that they will eventually detect cookies that are
> deemed unsavory? The selection of cookies to be killed off should be the
> choice of the user. I am disturbed that Microsoft is not filtering cookies
> because such activity may jeopardize some commercial relationships. I agree
> that unless something is of clear benefit to me it should be blocked. The
> Lavasoft free AdAware seems to do a reasonable job but probably misses some.
> The problem is that new intrusive cookies are easier to create than viruses
> so the list is endless. There must be some characteristic unique to trackers
> and loggers that triggers an alarm (with options) upon initial attempts to
> enter your PC. Some are so bad (loggers) that once they are in they send your
> data "home" until your next scan.
>
> Dick
>
> "plun" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi
>>
>> Adaware detects tracking cookies, MSAS not within Beta 1.
>> Click o the "golden lock" within Adaware and check your log files,
>> probably all of them are tracking cookies or gold miners.
>>
>> It´s up to you to deside if you believe tracking cookies are "evil".
>>
>> Microsoft will not at precense, it´s up to you !
>>
>> Searchwords "debate tracking cookies"

"Denis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:E89BD00E-85C2-4C13-81FA-(E-Mail Removed)...
> MS Antispy b1 consistently fails to detect spyware even on full system
> scan.
> I do a weekly scan with MS Antispy followed by Adaware which detects
> numeruos
> spyware, something like 10-30 items each weekly scan.
> Can anyone suggest a reason for this?


And the reason why you are deliberately hiding WHAT, ahem, spyware was
detected is? Since you don't bother to tell us WHAT you see in Ad-Aware,
you've deliberately left us in the dark.

"Adelphia" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Has Microsoft announced that they will eventually detect cookies that are
> deemed unsavory?

Who is going to become the Cookie Dictator to decide which domains try to
save "bad" cookies on your host? Viruses, spyware, trojans, and such are
deemed such because of their behavior. If cookies were blocked or purged
based on their behavior then all cookies would get blocked or deleted - and
you already have that option within IE to configure it to never accept
cookies.

Rather than wasting time compiling a huge list of "bad" cookie domains
(based on someone else's choices than you), Microsoft should instead
incorporate a cookie whitelisting function. You decide which cookies you
want to keep and all the rest are either blocked or forced to be per-session
cookies (they get deleted when IE is exited). Many sites won't function
correctly unless you save their cookie but it only needs to be around while
you are there, so purging all non-whitelisted cookies after exiting IE would
force them to be per-session cookies. Then you don't need to bother wasting
time compiling a bad cookie list to include in frequent updates based on
criteria which was NOT that of the user.

If you want to provide for some cookie management now then go configure IE's
cookie options. I set mine to allow 1st-party cookies, block 3rd-party
cookies, and allow per-session cookies (because they expire and get deleted
when you exit IE). There are also LOTS of cookie managers out there that
provide whitelisting. Some popup blockers, like PopUpCop, also provide
cookie whitelisting. If you want to manage your cookies then do so. You
not vacuuming the floor after dropping cookie crumbs all over and leaving
them there is your fault.

Anyone know if cookie management got any better in IE 7 beta?

Vanguard used his keyboard to write :
> Anyone know if cookie management got any better in IE 7 beta?

It seems to be the same functionality within IE7 Beta 1 as I can see.

Maybe a "Whitelist" is a solution Or use Spywareblaster for a
"blacklist" .............

A newbie or "normal user" never touches any settings within IE tools !
They never changes anything from "defaults", nothing under the hood.

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plun