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Andy Pont AMIAP
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      1st Oct 2003
Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of their XPE image?
If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much excess fat did
it bring into the image?

What is the communities considered opinion on this - is it worth
doing?

Any information would be much appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Andy.
 
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Doug Hoeffel
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      2nd Oct 2003
Andy:

I do not ship my product with anti-virus s/w.

I use the RAM-based EWF which offers some level of protection in that if my
box was to be infected, in most cases a reboot would restore the machine.
The case that the EWF does not handle is if the virus uses your box as a
gateway.

Also, my product is headless. It's a remote field service problem to keep
the virus dat files updated especially when the box is powered off when not
in use, i.e. it's hard to schedule the auto update when the box is off.
Another thing, I wouldn't want the automatic virus checking running all the
time for performance reasons. Some debate what use anti-virus s/w is if
it's not running all the time.

One other thing... my box is tightly locked down. Before any release, I run
the Retina security tool which tries to hack in via open ports, shares, null
session, remote registry access, etc. I recommend implementing tcp/ip port
filtering, and if you use IIS then run the LockDown Tool and URLscan. Plus,
it's a good idea to change the http port to something other than 80.

Security is a huge issue worth investing time into. A few tweaks can get
your box a long way to being secure.

HTH... Doug
"Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of their XPE image?
> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much excess fat did
> it bring into the image?
>
> What is the communities considered opinion on this - is it worth
> doing?
>
> Any information would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Andy.



 
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Kesavan
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      3rd Oct 2003
It would be really appreciable if sumone from MS enlighten on the anti
virus measures.

"Doug Hoeffel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Andy:
>
> I do not ship my product with anti-virus s/w.
>
> I use the RAM-based EWF which offers some level of protection in that if my
> box was to be infected, in most cases a reboot would restore the machine.
> The case that the EWF does not handle is if the virus uses your box as a
> gateway.
>
> Also, my product is headless. It's a remote field service problem to keep
> the virus dat files updated especially when the box is powered off when not
> in use, i.e. it's hard to schedule the auto update when the box is off.
> Another thing, I wouldn't want the automatic virus checking running all the
> time for performance reasons. Some debate what use anti-virus s/w is if
> it's not running all the time.
>
> One other thing... my box is tightly locked down. Before any release, I run
> the Retina security tool which tries to hack in via open ports, shares, null
> session, remote registry access, etc. I recommend implementing tcp/ip port
> filtering, and if you use IIS then run the LockDown Tool and URLscan. Plus,
> it's a good idea to change the http port to something other than 80.
>
> Security is a huge issue worth investing time into. A few tweaks can get
> your box a long way to being secure.
>
> HTH... Doug
> "Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of their XPE image?
> > If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much excess fat did
> > it bring into the image?
> >
> > What is the communities considered opinion on this - is it worth
> > doing?
> >
> > Any information would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> >
> > Andy.

 
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Doug Hoeffel
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      3rd Oct 2003
I don't understand. What would you like MS to recommend?

We are all responsible for securing our own products ;-)

.... Doug
"Kesavan" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> It would be really appreciable if sumone from MS enlighten on the anti
> virus measures.
>
> "Doug Hoeffel" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > Andy:
> >
> > I do not ship my product with anti-virus s/w.
> >
> > I use the RAM-based EWF which offers some level of protection in that if

my
> > box was to be infected, in most cases a reboot would restore the

machine.
> > The case that the EWF does not handle is if the virus uses your box as a
> > gateway.
> >
> > Also, my product is headless. It's a remote field service problem to

keep
> > the virus dat files updated especially when the box is powered off when

not
> > in use, i.e. it's hard to schedule the auto update when the box is off.
> > Another thing, I wouldn't want the automatic virus checking running all

the
> > time for performance reasons. Some debate what use anti-virus s/w is if
> > it's not running all the time.
> >
> > One other thing... my box is tightly locked down. Before any release, I

run
> > the Retina security tool which tries to hack in via open ports, shares,

null
> > session, remote registry access, etc. I recommend implementing tcp/ip

port
> > filtering, and if you use IIS then run the LockDown Tool and URLscan.

Plus,
> > it's a good idea to change the http port to something other than 80.
> >
> > Security is a huge issue worth investing time into. A few tweaks can

get
> > your box a long way to being secure.
> >
> > HTH... Doug
> > "Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of their XPE image?
> > > If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much excess fat did
> > > it bring into the image?
> > >
> > > What is the communities considered opinion on this - is it worth
> > > doing?
> > >
> > > Any information would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks and regards,
> > >
> > > Andy.



 
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sean
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      4th Oct 2003
Andy,
I designed a satellite based router and I ship anitvirus as an upgrade.

Regards,

Sean Gahan



"Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of their XPE image?
> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much excess fat did
> it bring into the image?
>
> What is the communities considered opinion on this - is it worth
> doing?
>
> Any information would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Andy.



 
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      28th Oct 2003
I was curious to see if there are antivirus programs that
are recommended for ms embedded systems.


Thanks
>-----Original Message-----
>Andy,
>I designed a satellite based router and I ship anitvirus

as an upgrade.
>
>Regards,
>
>Sean Gahan
>
>
>
>"Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of

their XPE image?
>> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much

excess fat did
>> it bring into the image?
>>
>> What is the communities considered opinion on this - is

it worth
>> doing?
>>
>> Any information would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Andy.

>
>
>.
>

 
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Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)
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      28th Oct 2003
You can use the same ones that are used for XP Pro, i.e. Norton, McAfee,
etc.

HTH... Doug
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I was curious to see if there are antivirus programs that
> are recommended for ms embedded systems.
>
>
> Thanks
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Andy,
> >I designed a satellite based router and I ship anitvirus

> as an upgrade.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Sean Gahan
> >
> >
> >
> >"Andy Pont AMIAP" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> wrote in message
> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of

> their XPE image?
> >> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how much

> excess fat did
> >> it bring into the image?
> >>
> >> What is the communities considered opinion on this - is

> it worth
> >> doing?
> >>
> >> Any information would be much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >>
> >> Andy.

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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      24th Nov 2003
What components are needed to be assured that antivirus
software will run and is working?

Travis
>-----Original Message-----
>You can use the same ones that are used for XP Pro, i.e.

Norton, McAfee,
>etc.
>
>HTH... Doug
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:40a101c39d72$0794ca10$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I was curious to see if there are antivirus programs

that
>> are recommended for ms embedded systems.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Andy,
>> >I designed a satellite based router and I ship

anitvirus
>> as an upgrade.
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Sean Gahan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Andy Pont AMIAP"

<(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote in message
>> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of

>> their XPE image?
>> >> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how

much
>> excess fat did
>> >> it bring into the image?
>> >>
>> >> What is the communities considered opinion on this -

is
>> it worth
>> >> doing?
>> >>
>> >> Any information would be much appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and regards,
>> >>
>> >> Andy.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
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>

 
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Doug Hoeffel \(eMVP\)
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      24th Nov 2003
Travis:

At a minimum, you will need the windows installer components so the
anti-virus s/w can be loaded. Also, beware of disabling the 8.3 naming
convention since I read somewhere that this can break anti-virus s/w.

HTH... Doug
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> What components are needed to be assured that antivirus
> software will run and is working?
>
> Travis
> >-----Original Message-----
> >You can use the same ones that are used for XP Pro, i.e.

> Norton, McAfee,
> >etc.
> >
> >HTH... Doug
> ><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >news:40a101c39d72$0794ca10$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I was curious to see if there are antivirus programs

> that
> >> are recommended for ms embedded systems.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Andy,
> >> >I designed a satellite based router and I ship

> anitvirus
> >> as an upgrade.
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Sean Gahan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Andy Pont AMIAP"

> <(E-Mail Removed)>
> >> wrote in message
> >> >news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> Has anyone included anti-virus software as part of
> >> their XPE image?
> >> >> If so whose, how easy was it to componentize, how

> much
> >> excess fat did
> >> >> it bring into the image?
> >> >>
> >> >> What is the communities considered opinion on this -

> is
> >> it worth
> >> >> doing?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any information would be much appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Andy.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



 
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