Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:

a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or
save new passwords
robin

"robinb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:
>
> a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or
> save new passwords
> robin

What is the relevance of Firefox in general and its password fixes to
this newsgroup, Microsoft Privacy Security Spyware Announcements? Same
with an earlier post about Thunderbird. Let's stick to announcements
for those applications that are at least directly relevant to the
subject of the group, MS-related security and spyware.

Gene

Hi Gene,

And that is just what we doing here!
We use the OS from MS.
A lot of things related to safety are upgrades to prevent you from those
nasty things also when they are not from MS!
Keep your system running and upgrade all!!
So keep up the good work Robin!

Regards >*< TOM >*<



(E-Mail Removed) schreef:
> "robinb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:
>>
>> a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or
>> save new passwords
>> robin
>
> What is the relevance of Firefox in general and its password fixes to
> this newsgroup, Microsoft Privacy Security Spyware Announcements? Same
> with an earlier post about Thunderbird. Let's stick to announcements
> for those applications that are at least directly relevant to the
> subject of the group, MS-related security and spyware.
>
> Gene

Tom Emmelot <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi Gene,
>
> And that is just what we doing here!
> We use the OS from MS.
> A lot of things related to safety are upgrades to prevent you from those
> nasty things also when they are not from MS!
> Keep your system running and upgrade all!!
> So keep up the good work Robin!
>
> Regards >*< TOM >*<

Retrieving saved passwords in Firefox is a security and spyware issue?
And why just Firefox? I use Secunia PSI and it's monitoring my computer
for security updates on 166 applications. Are you suggesting that
posting updates for all of them here is appropriate - and everyone does
theirs too? I thought the topic of this newsgroup was a much
narrower focus. Perhaps one of the appointed or de facto moderators
could clarify it.

Gene


>
> (E-Mail Removed) schreef:
> > "robinb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> >> Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:
> >>
> >> a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or
> >> save new passwords
> >> robin
> >
> > What is the relevance of Firefox in general and its password fixes to
> > this newsgroup, Microsoft Privacy Security Spyware Announcements? Same
> > with an earlier post about Thunderbird. Let's stick to announcements
> > for those applications that are at least directly relevant to the
> > subject of the group, MS-related security and spyware.
> >
> > Gene

Well I really appreciate this forum - the people who hang out here are
most courteous and helpful and I find the posts are very relevant to
the topic and very useful.

John

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:38:28 -0600, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>Tom Emmelot <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> And that is just what we doing here!
>> We use the OS from MS.
>> A lot of things related to safety are upgrades to prevent you from those
>> nasty things also when they are not from MS!
>> Keep your system running and upgrade all!!
>> So keep up the good work Robin!
>>
>> Regards >*< TOM >*<
>
>Retrieving saved passwords in Firefox is a security and spyware issue?
>And why just Firefox? I use Secunia PSI and it's monitoring my computer
>for security updates on 166 applications. Are you suggesting that
>posting updates for all of them here is appropriate - and everyone does
>theirs too? I thought the topic of this newsgroup was a much
>narrower focus. Perhaps one of the appointed or de facto moderators
>could clarify it.
>
>Gene
>
>
>>
>> (E-Mail Removed) schreef:
>> > "robinb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:
>> >>
>> >> a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved passwords or
>> >> save new passwords
>> >> robin
>> >
>> > What is the relevance of Firefox in general and its password fixes to
>> > this newsgroup, Microsoft Privacy Security Spyware Announcements? Same
>> > with an earlier post about Thunderbird. Let's stick to announcements
>> > for those applications that are at least directly relevant to the
>> > subject of the group, MS-related security and spyware.
>> >
>> > Gene

These are peer to peer unmoderated groups.

Your sentiments are far better expressed than those of "Jack Ass", who
shares your preference about sticking closer to the stated topic.

I'd prefer myself that the groups stick closer to topic, but I also value
the broader community, and feel that some excursions into security-related
areas beyond Windows Defender are reasonable.

Microsoft's rules of conduct for these groups can be found here:

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx

"Jack Ass" regularly transgresses these and his posts are sometimes removed
for that reason. I'd urge everybody to re-read these occasionally.

"Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> These are peer to peer unmoderated groups.
>
> Your sentiments are far better expressed than those of "Jack Ass", who
> shares your preference about sticking closer to the stated topic.
>
> I'd prefer myself that the groups stick closer to topic, but I also value
> the broader community, and feel that some excursions into security-related
> areas beyond Windows Defender are reasonable.
>
> Microsoft's rules of conduct for these groups can be found here:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
>
> "Jack Ass" regularly transgresses these and his posts are sometimes removed
> for that reason. I'd urge everybody to re-read these occasionally.

I very much agree with you about "JA." If there had been an urgent
special security update for FF or Thunderbird, I wouldn't have said
anything. But the past two or three have not even claimed to be in the
ballpark. The presence of a new post means I, and presumably most
people using a newsreader or their email client, have to either look at
it directly or go to it in some way to mark it read. Thus, I appreciate
it when people stay on or arguably close to the group topic.

Gene

The other detail to remember then, is that the vast majority of the users
here aren't coming in via NNTP, but are viewing the group through some web
mechanism--in a number of cases, one which doesn't even give sufficient
description of the group for the users to be sure what the topic is!

This is simply the way things are, I'm afraid, and Microsofts stated
direction and work priorities will make NNTP less and less a piece of the
pie as time goes on.

These groups were never a fomal part of Usenet, and the values and
conventions thereof are disappearing--I've never managed to bring myself to
bottom post for more than short periods of time to specific users who
complain, for example!



<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> These are peer to peer unmoderated groups.
>>
>> Your sentiments are far better expressed than those of "Jack Ass", who
>> shares your preference about sticking closer to the stated topic.
>>
>> I'd prefer myself that the groups stick closer to topic, but I also value
>> the broader community, and feel that some excursions into
>> security-related
>> areas beyond Windows Defender are reasonable.
>>
>> Microsoft's rules of conduct for these groups can be found here:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
>>
>> "Jack Ass" regularly transgresses these and his posts are sometimes
>> removed
>> for that reason. I'd urge everybody to re-read these occasionally.
>
> I very much agree with you about "JA." If there had been an urgent
> special security update for FF or Thunderbird, I wouldn't have said
> anything. But the past two or three have not even claimed to be in the
> ballpark. The presence of a new post means I, and presumably most
> people using a newsreader or their email client, have to either look at
> it directly or go to it in some way to mark it read. Thus, I appreciate
> it when people stay on or arguably close to the group topic.
>
> Gene

thank you tom- I could not have said that better
robin
"Tom Emmelot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Gene,
>
> And that is just what we doing here!
> We use the OS from MS.
> A lot of things related to safety are upgrades to prevent you from those
> nasty things also when they are not from MS!
> Keep your system running and upgrade all!!
> So keep up the good work Robin!
>
> Regards >*< TOM >*<
>
>
>
> (E-Mail Removed) schreef:
>> "robinb" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> Firefox 3.0.3 contains the following changes:
>>>
>>> a.. Fixed a problem where users were unable to retrieve saved
>>> passwords or save new passwords
>>> robin
>>
>> What is the relevance of Firefox in general and its password fixes to
>> this newsgroup, Microsoft Privacy Security Spyware Announcements? Same
>> with an earlier post about Thunderbird. Let's stick to announcements
>> for those applications that are at least directly relevant to the
>> subject of the group, MS-related security and spyware. Gene

I have spoke to microsoft about this newsgroup and they have no problems
with us posting third party antivirus,antispyware and safer software as long
as it done in a respectful, curtious manner.. They like to know that all of
them work with WD and which ones do not. They also know that WD is not the
all all antispyware software and other antispyware software can be a back up
and compliment it.

If microsoft has no problems with it why should you or anyone else here?
robin

"Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> The other detail to remember then, is that the vast majority of the users
> here aren't coming in via NNTP, but are viewing the group through some web
> mechanism--in a number of cases, one which doesn't even give sufficient
> description of the group for the users to be sure what the topic is!
>
> This is simply the way things are, I'm afraid, and Microsofts stated
> direction and work priorities will make NNTP less and less a piece of the
> pie as time goes on.
>
> These groups were never a fomal part of Usenet, and the values and
> conventions thereof are disappearing--I've never managed to bring myself
> to bottom post for more than short periods of time to specific users who
> complain, for example!
>
>
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Bill Sanderson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>> These are peer to peer unmoderated groups.
>>>
>>> Your sentiments are far better expressed than those of "Jack Ass", who
>>> shares your preference about sticking closer to the stated topic.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer myself that the groups stick closer to topic, but I also
>>> value
>>> the broader community, and feel that some excursions into
>>> security-related
>>> areas beyond Windows Defender are reasonable.
>>>
>>> Microsoft's rules of conduct for these groups can be found here:
>>>
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...t/default.mspx
>>>
>>> "Jack Ass" regularly transgresses these and his posts are sometimes
>>> removed
>>> for that reason. I'd urge everybody to re-read these occasionally.
>>
>> I very much agree with you about "JA." If there had been an urgent
>> special security update for FF or Thunderbird, I wouldn't have said
>> anything. But the past two or three have not even claimed to be in the
>> ballpark. The presence of a new post means I, and presumably most
>> people using a newsreader or their email client, have to either look at
>> it directly or go to it in some way to mark it read. Thus, I appreciate
>> it when people stay on or arguably close to the group topic.
>>
>> Gene
>