One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely ridiculous.
This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year. Rather
than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
poof... the drive is dead.

Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor should
give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line is
discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.


-WD

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:54:13 GMT
Will Dormann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely
> ridiculous.
> This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year.
> Rather
> than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
> predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
> poof... the drive is dead.
>
> Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor
> should give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line is
>
> discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.

If you've failed four drives in the same machine in a year then look for
a problem with the machine, not the drives. Most likely either the
power supply is too small or broken in some way or the drives are not
getting enough cooling.

> -WD

--
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--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

J.Clarke wrote:
> If you've failed four drives in the same machine in a year then look for
> a problem with the machine, not the drives. Most likely either the
> power supply is too small or broken in some way or the drives are not
> getting enough cooling.


Two different machines, with adequate cooling. (never exceeded 40C
according to DTemp). I purchased my original Maxtor less than one year
ago. Each one that I've owned since then has been a (used) replacement
that they've sent me.

My main machine currently has 2 Seagate drives in it, and had an IBM 20G
which I replaced due to capacity. (all of which are 7200RPM, like the
Maxtor). Same PSU, same cooling characteristics.

Since my original Maxtor failed and I got an RMA replacement, I've moved
it into a different machine. (one that's not "mission critical").


I realize that I only have a tiny sample, but the drives that I've owned
have all been exposed to the same environment. The maxtors have failed;
the other brands have not. That's enough to convince me...


-WD

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:54:13 GMT, Will Dormann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely ridiculous.
> This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year. Rather
>than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
>predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
>poof... the drive is dead.

Maybe your system is killing them. Power supply perhaps.



>
>Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor should
>give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line is
>discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.
>
>
>-WD


-Barry
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Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:54:13 GMT, Will Dormann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely ridiculous.
>> This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year. Rather
>>than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
>>predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
>>poof... the drive is dead.
>
>
> Maybe your system is killing them. Power supply perhaps.


Doubtful. See my reply to J. Clarke


-WD

Try a different brand. I have been using Western Digital for over 10 years.
Not a single problem yet. My latest is one with an 8 MB cache.

"Will Dormann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Vh7fb.86424$(E-Mail Removed)...
> One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely ridiculous.
> This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year. Rather
> than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
> predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
> poof... the drive is dead.
>
> Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor should
> give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line is
> discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.
>
>
> -WD
>

Papa wrote:

> Try a different brand. I have been using Western Digital for over 10 years.
> Not a single problem yet. My latest is one with an 8 MB cache.


Yeah. I have no problems with other brands. The only reason I still
have a Maxtor is because they keep replacing it under warranty.

If this next one dies too, I guess I'll just cut my losses and switch
over to something that works.


-WD

"Will Dormann" wrote
> One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely ridiculous.
> This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of one year. Rather
> than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one wasn't able to be
> predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching TV with my PVR and
> poof... the drive is dead.
>
> Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor should
> give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line is
> discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.


Hi,
oops that's bad news! hopefully you didn't lose any vital data etc. . . .I
wouldn't go near Maxtor drives right now, others have had better luck, but
for me over the past 5 years the most problems I seen with hard-disks have
been Maxtor branded!

Western-Digital is doing it for me right now. . .

--
Wayne ][

I've had 3 Maxtor 6L080J4 80GB in 24x7 operation for over a year with
no problems, ok but these are the "J" and not "L". However, that
said, I did previously return one over a year ago for a SMART spinup
error, plus 2-3yrs ago returned 3 more for bearing whine (jet engine
sound). And, so far for the 6 months I've had them my 2 DiamondMax
Plus 9 6Y200P0 200GB have had no problems (but I also have extra fans
in the drive bays).

After returning the 3 80GB drives for the bearing whine I almost
switched to WD, but I'm still hoping the fluid bearings in the 6Y200P0
have addressed this issue, so far so good, and I have so much faith in
them I've even ordered 1 more.

"Will Dormann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Vh7fb.86424$(E-Mail Removed)
> One more maxtor down the tubes. This is getting completely
> ridiculous. This is my 4th failed 6L080L4 within the period of
one
> year. Rather than a progressive influx of bad sectors, this one
> wasn't able to be predicted by SMART monitoring. I was watching
TV
> with my PVR and poof... the drive is dead.
>
> Luckily(?) this one failed within 30 days, so technically Maxtor
> should give me a new drive in replacement. Since the 6L080L4 line
is
> discontinued, hopefully I'll get a model that isn't faulty.
>
>
> -WD