Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
documents using an internal Fax Modem ?

Thanks,
Andy

Mint wrote:
> Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
> documents using an internal Fax Modem ?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy

The virtual machine I'm running right now, recommends these:

http://www.cce.com/efax/ single user (GUI to drive it
available as efax-gtk).

http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page client/server architecture
fax software - one fax modem
can serve a whole office of
people. This would be too much
work.

You could boot your favorite LiveCD, access the built-in
package manager (which automatically downloads software
upon request), and select the efax program. Once the
install is finished, you run it and do your faxing.

There are 500 different Linux distros, many of which have
a LiveCD version. LiveCD means you can boot the CD and
use Linux, without installing any software. If you use a
version with "persistent store" capability, you can even
save a few things from one session to the next. "Persistent
store" uses less storage than a full install would, and also
doesn't pester you with multi-boot issues. You might need to
set up a partition for the persistent store (or it might be
held inside a single file, located on some fat32 partition).

I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
than getting a modem working.

Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
You need a bigger hammer... :-)

Paul

On Feb 17, 7:58*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> Mint wrote:
> > Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
> > documents using an internal Fax Modem ?
>
> > Thanks,
> > * * * * * * *Andy
>
> The virtual machine I'm running right now, recommends these:
>
> http://www.cce.com/efax/* * * * * * * single user (GUI to drive it
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * available as efax-gtk).
>
> http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page* *client/server architecture
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *fax software - one fax modem
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *can serve a whole office of
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *people. This would be too much
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *work.
>
> You could boot your favorite LiveCD, access the built-in
> package manager (which automatically downloads software
> upon request), and select the efax program. Once the
> install is finished, you run it and do your faxing.
>
> There are 500 different Linux distros, many of which have
> a LiveCD version. LiveCD means you can boot the CD and
> use Linux, without installing any software. If you use a
> version with "persistent store" capability, you can even
> save a few things from one session to the next. "Persistent
> store" uses less storage than a full install would, and also
> doesn't pester you with multi-boot issues. You might need to
> set up a partition for the persistent store (or it might be
> held inside a single file, located on some fat32 partition).
>
> I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
> than getting a modem working.
>
> Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
> You need a bigger hammer... :-)
>
> * * Paul

It was easy though Sp2.

The bozos at M.S. decided that folks like me don't really need to use
the faxing capability that I paid for.

Andy

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), Mint
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Feb 17, 7:58*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> Mint wrote:
>> > Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
>> > documents using an internal Fax Modem ?
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > * * * * * * *Andy
>>
>> The virtual machine I'm running right now, recommends these:
>>
>> http://www.cce.com/efax/* * * * * * * single user (GUI to drive it
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * available as efax-gtk).
>>
>> http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page* *client/server architecture
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *fax software - one fax modem
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *can serve a whole office of
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *people. This would be too much
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *work.
>>
>> You could boot your favorite LiveCD, access the built-in
>> package manager (which automatically downloads software
>> upon request), and select the efax program. Once the
>> install is finished, you run it and do your faxing.
>>
>> There are 500 different Linux distros, many of which have
>> a LiveCD version. LiveCD means you can boot the CD and
>> use Linux, without installing any software. If you use a
>> version with "persistent store" capability, you can even
>> save a few things from one session to the next. "Persistent
>> store" uses less storage than a full install would, and also
>> doesn't pester you with multi-boot issues. You might need to
>> set up a partition for the persistent store (or it might be
>> held inside a single file, located on some fat32 partition).
>>
>> I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
>> than getting a modem working.
>>
>> Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
>> You need a bigger hammer... :-)
>>
>> * * Paul
>
>It was easy though Sp2.
>
>The bozos at M.S. decided that folks like me don't really need to use
>the faxing capability that I paid for.
>
>Andy

Really. So I can dispense with the notion of faxing through my
XP-SP3 computer? I was trying to show my ex-gf how to do this. She
couldn't view mine, and I was rying to receive a fax through my junk
fax machine and that didn't work, but could that have been because of
Windows?

mm wrote:
> Really. So I can dispense with the notion of faxing through my
> XP-SP3 computer?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Windows XP-SP3. It has the fax
facility and nothing has been removed from the SP3 (or SP2 or SP1a or
SP1). It is ****ers like glee who keep misinforming people on these
newsgroups.

Hope this helps.

mm wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), Mint
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 17, 7:58 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>> Mint wrote:
>>>> Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
>>>> documents using an internal Fax Modem ?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andy
>>> The virtual machine I'm running right now, recommends these:
>>>
>>> http://www.cce.com/efax/ single user (GUI to drive it
>>> available as efax-gtk).
>>>
>>> http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page client/server architecture
>>> fax software - one fax modem
>>> can serve a whole office of
>>> people. This would be too much
>>> work.
>>>
>>> You could boot your favorite LiveCD, access the built-in
>>> package manager (which automatically downloads software
>>> upon request), and select the efax program. Once the
>>> install is finished, you run it and do your faxing.
>>>
>>> There are 500 different Linux distros, many of which have
>>> a LiveCD version. LiveCD means you can boot the CD and
>>> use Linux, without installing any software. If you use a
>>> version with "persistent store" capability, you can even
>>> save a few things from one session to the next. "Persistent
>>> store" uses less storage than a full install would, and also
>>> doesn't pester you with multi-boot issues. You might need to
>>> set up a partition for the persistent store (or it might be
>>> held inside a single file, located on some fat32 partition).
>>>
>>> I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
>>> than getting a modem working.
>>>
>>> Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
>>> You need a bigger hammer... :-)
>>>
>>> Paul
>> It was easy though Sp2.
>>
>> The bozos at M.S. decided that folks like me don't really need to use
>> the faxing capability that I paid for.
>>
>> Andy
>
> Really. So I can dispense with the notion of faxing through my
> XP-SP3 computer? I was trying to show my ex-gf how to do this. She
> couldn't view mine, and I was rying to receive a fax through my junk
> fax machine and that didn't work, but could that have been because of
> Windows?

If you go to the Add/Remove control panel, the ability to install
Windows components is buried in there. My WinXP SP3 Pro install shows
something like this, and I do have a FAX item. I don't have a very
good way to test though, that it is working (nobody sends me faxes).
So I don't have it installed at the moment.

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4360/fax1.jpg

If you have an SP3 Windows CD, you can look for FXSOCM.IN_ . When
that file is "extracted" (uncompressed), you get fxsocm.inf and
in that file, is a list of the files used when the FAX component is
installed. Those files should all be in the i386 folder of the
installer CD. (I don't know where they'd be, if you added the
Service Pack separately.) Anyway, that gives you some idea what
you'd be looking for in the way of a file or files.

Paul

On Feb 19, 5:31*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> mm wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), Mint
> > <chocolatemint77...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Feb 17, 7:58 pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >>> Mint wrote:
> >>>> Is there another O.S. that I can put on a boot CD that will fax
> >>>> documents using an internal Fax Modem ?
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> * * * * * * *Andy
> >>> The virtual machine I'm running right now, recommends these:
>
> >>>http://www.cce.com/efax/* * * * * * *single user (GUI todrive it
> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * available as efax-gtk).
>
> >>>http://www.hylafax.org/content/Main_Page* client/server architecture
> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *fax software - one fax modem
> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *can serve a whole office of
> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *people. This would be too much
> >>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *work.
>
> >>> You could boot your favorite LiveCD, access the built-in
> >>> package manager (which automatically downloads software
> >>> upon request), and select the efax program. Once the
> >>> install is finished, you run it and do your faxing.
>
> >>> There are 500 different Linux distros, many of which have
> >>> a LiveCD version. LiveCD means you can boot the CD and
> >>> use Linux, without installing any software. If you use a
> >>> version with "persistent store" capability, you can even
> >>> save a few things from one session to the next. "Persistent
> >>> store" uses less storage than a full install would, and also
> >>> doesn't pester you with multi-boot issues. You might need to
> >>> set up a partition for the persistent store (or it might be
> >>> held inside a single file, located on some fat32 partition).
>
> >>> I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
> >>> than getting a modem working.
>
> >>> Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
> >>> You need a bigger hammer... :-)
>
> >>> * * Paul
> >> It was easy though Sp2.
>
> >> The bozos at M.S. decided that folks like me don't really need to use
> >> the faxing capability that I paid for.
>
> >> Andy
>
> > Really. * So I can dispense with the notion of faxing through my
> > XP-SP3 computer? *I was trying to show my ex-gf how to do this. *She
> > couldn't view mine, and I was rying to receive a fax through my junk
> > fax machine and that didn't work, but could that have been because of
> > Windows?
>
> If you go to the Add/Remove control panel, the ability to install
> Windows components is buried in there. My WinXP SP3 Pro install shows
> something like this, and I do have a FAX item. I don't have a very
> good way to test though, that it is working (nobody sends me faxes).
> So I don't have it installed at the moment.
>
> http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4360/fax1.jpg
>
> If you have an SP3 Windows CD, you can look for FXSOCM.IN_ . When
> that file is "extracted" (uncompressed), you get fxsocm.inf and
> in that file, is a list of the files used when the FAX component is
> installed. Those files should all be in the i386 folder of the
> installer CD. (I don't know where they'd be, if you added the
> Service Pack separately.) Anyway, that gives you some idea what
> you'd be looking for in the way of a file or files.
>
> * * Paul

Thru trial and error, I found the solution.

Service Pack # 3 did break the fax capability.

The way to fix it, at least for the Home Edition, was to copy the fax
service files from the Sp2 upgrade, to \windows\system32 and the
dllcache/ directory.

Take care,
Andy

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:02:17 -0800 (PST), Mint
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Feb 19, 5:31*pm, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> mm wrote:
>> > On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:37:56 -0800 (PST), Mint
>>
>> >>> I've never done faxing in Linux, and I hope it's easier
>> >>> than getting a modem working.
>>
>> >>> Getting the fax working in Windows was supposed to be easy...
>> >>> You need a bigger hammer... :-)
>>
>> >>> * * Paul
>> >> It was easy though Sp2.
>>
>> >> The bozos at M.S. decided that folks like me don't really need to use
>> >> the faxing capability that I paid for.
>>
>> >> Andy
>>
>> > Really. * So I can dispense with the notion of faxing through my
>> > XP-SP3 computer? *I was trying to show my ex-gf how to do this. *She
>> > couldn't view mine, and I was rying to receive a fax through my junk
>> > fax machine and that didn't work, but could that have been because of
>> > Windows?
>>
>> If you go to the Add/Remove control panel, the ability to install
>> Windows components is buried in there. My WinXP SP3 Pro install shows
>> something like this, and I do have a FAX item. I don't have a very
>> good way to test though, that it is working (nobody sends me faxes).
>> So I don't have it installed at the moment.
>>
>> http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4360/fax1.jpg
>>
>> If you have an SP3 Windows CD, you can look for FXSOCM.IN_ . When
>> that file is "extracted" (uncompressed), you get fxsocm.inf and
>> in that file, is a list of the files used when the FAX component is
>> installed. Those files should all be in the i386 folder of the
>> installer CD. (I don't know where they'd be, if you added the
>> Service Pack separately.) Anyway, that gives you some idea what
>> you'd be looking for in the way of a file or files.
>>
>> * * Paul
>
>Thru trial and error, I found the solution.
>
>Service Pack # 3 did break the fax capability.
>
>The way to fix it, at least for the Home Edition, was to copy the fax
>service files from the Sp2 upgrade, to \windows\system32 and the
>dllcache/ directory.

But if you upgraded from sp2 to sp3, wouldn't the files from sp2
already be there? Or would they?

>Take care,
> Andy

mm wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:02:17 -0800 (PST), Mint
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> Thru trial and error, I found the solution.
>>
>> Service Pack # 3 did break the fax capability.
>>
>> The way to fix it, at least for the Home Edition, was to copy the fax
>> service files from the Sp2 upgrade, to \windows\system32 and the
>> dllcache/ directory.
>
> But if you upgraded from sp2 to sp3, wouldn't the files from sp2
> already be there? Or would they?
>
>> Take care,
>> Andy
>

The FAX files are in the SP3 standalone installer file.

fxsocm.in_ is the INF file, in compressed form. The rest of the files
around it are the fax package.

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7449/sp3fax.gif

KB936929 is SP3.

Paul