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rufus
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      28th Aug 2004
Hi,

I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
something similar with vb.net!!

And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is not
much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this be?????

And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class files.
I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation was
virtually non existent.

Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
The problems I am having are making that very hard.

Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
advice??

Thanks.


 
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Arne Janning
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      29th Aug 2004
"rufus" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb
> I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
> searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
> anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
> can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
> excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
> something similar with vb.net!!


Hi Rufus,

have you downloaded and installed the .NET-Framework-SDK? Then click on
Start | Programs | Microsoft .NET Framework SDK v1.1 | Documentation

You'll find tons of structured information there, a search function is
available as well of course.

> Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
> purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
> The problems I am having are making that very hard.


Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
Visual Studio 2005 edition.
But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free. I already hear them wailing
over market dominance, cross financing, etc.
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/get/

Note that there are evaluation versions of VS.NET as well if you want to
"check it out", as you described.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/trial/

Cheers

Arne Janning


 
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Hal Rosser
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      29th Aug 2004
Take a look at Netbeans IDE; www.netbeans.org or Eclipse IDE;
www.Eclipse.org
you may want to return to java

"rufus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:cgr07t$d7b$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
> searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
> anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
> can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
> excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
> something similar with vb.net!!
>
> And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is

not
> much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
> have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
> little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this

be?????
>
> And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
> looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class

files.
> I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation

was
> virtually non existent.
>
> Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
> purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
> The problems I am having are making that very hard.
>
> Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
> advice??
>
> Thanks.
>
>



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Scott M.
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      29th Aug 2004
In the .NET Framework SDK there is an executable called "wincv.exe" (windows
class viewer). I believe this is what you are looking for. Or, how about
the good old Object Browser available in VS.NET (F2) - this works as well.


"rufus" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:cgr07t$d7b$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I just downloaded everything I need to write some web forms. I have been
> searching everywhere for a SEARCHABLE class library but I can't find one
> anywhere. I found the .net class library on the microsoft website but you
> can't seem to search it. Very frustrating! I remember that Java had an
> excellent class library that was easily searchable but why can't there be
> something similar with vb.net!!
>
> And what about the compiler that ships with it. COMMAND LINE!!! It is
> not
> much fun typing in lengthy commands all the time and then discovering you
> have missed a reference library. I have looked around and there is very
> little available in the way of a compiler with a GUI. How can this
> be?????
>
> And development tools.....I downloaded ASP:NET Web Matrix and I thought it
> looked pretty good but soon discovered that it cannot assemble class
> files.
> I also had a look at SharpDevelop but it was buggy and the documentation
> was
> virtually non existent.
>
> Of course I understand that microsoft wants me to spend alot of money
> purchasing visual studio.net but I want to check it out before I do that.
> The problems I am having are making that very hard.
>
> Can anybody point me in the right direction or offer any constructive
> advice??
>
> Thanks.
>
>



 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
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      29th Aug 2004
* "Arne Janning" <spam.me-(E-Mail Removed)> scripsit:
> Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the new
> Visual Studio 2005 edition.
> But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants to
> earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
> Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.


The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.

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Arne Janning
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      29th Aug 2004
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>* "Arne Janning" <spam.me-(E-Mail Removed)> scripsit:
>> Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of the
>> new
>> Visual Studio 2005 edition.
>> But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft wants
>> to
>> earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving away
>> Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

>
> The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.
>


I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)

Cheers

AJ


 
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rufus
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      29th Aug 2004

"Arne Janning" <spam.me-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im

Newsbeitrag
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >* "Arne Janning" <spam.me-(E-Mail Removed)> scripsit:
> >> Microsoft realized that problem. There will be "express"-Versions of

the
> >> new
> >> Visual Studio 2005 edition.
> >> But I guess the same people who are lamenting today that Microsoft

wants
> >> to
> >> earn money with VS.NET will lament tomorrow that Microsoft is giving

away
> >> Visual Studio ( + SQL Server 2005!) for free.

> >
> > The Express products will /not/ be free, but will cost < USD 100.
> >

>
> I know, but it would have destroyed the rhetorical antithesis... :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> AJ

Hi AJ,

Thanks for your help. I just downloaded Visual Web Developer 2005 Express
Edition Beta and it is absolutely fantastic. Just what I was looking for!
Thanks.


 
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