In 2KPro, the default image viewer (Kodak Imaging) allowed annotating on
jpgs, but in XP it seems you only get the annotation tools when viewing
..tiffs. Is there any way to annotate .jpg images within XP (without having to
buy a new program)? Paint does not allow you to return to text annotations to
edit.

Thanks,
janet

Janetb wrote:
> In 2KPro, the default image viewer (Kodak Imaging) allowed annotating
> on jpgs, but in XP it seems you only get the annotation tools when
> viewing .tiffs. Is there any way to annotate .jpg images within XP
> (without having to buy a new program)? Paint does not allow you to
> return to text annotations to edit.
>
> Thanks,
> janet
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Have you tried right clicking a .jpg or
a selected group of .jpgs and go to...
Properties / Summary tab / Advanced
button?

Select the field you wish to update
and begin typing.

If that's not what you're seeking...maybe
the following download will be useful:

Microsoft Photo Info 1.0
http://tinyurl.com/2fgbr9

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Thanks but no--- I mean to draw, highlight, or type directly on the image. If
you open a tiff, you get all those annotation tools, but if you open a jpeg,
you don't. Jpgs bring up an 'editing' button (on the bottom right, just
before the Help button), but that takes you to Paint which has the
disadvantage mentioned in original post.

J.


"John Inzer" wrote:

> Janetb wrote:
> > In 2KPro, the default image viewer (Kodak Imaging) allowed annotating
> > on jpgs, but in XP it seems you only get the annotation tools when
> > viewing .tiffs. Is there any way to annotate .jpg images within XP
> > (without having to buy a new program)? Paint does not allow you to
> > return to text annotations to edit.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > janet
> =============================
> Have you tried right clicking a .jpg or
> a selected group of .jpgs and go to...
> Properties / Summary tab / Advanced
> button?
>
> Select the field you wish to update
> and begin typing.
>
> If that's not what you're seeking...maybe
> the following download will be useful:
>
> Microsoft Photo Info 1.0
> http://tinyurl.com/2fgbr9
>
> --
>
> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! -
> Digital Image MVP
>
> Digital Image
> Highlights and FAQs
> http://tinyurl.com/aczzp
>
> Notice
> This is not tech support
> I am a volunteer
>
> Solutions that work for
> me may not work for you
>
> Proceed at your own risk
>
>
>

Janetb wrote:
> Thanks but no--- I mean to draw, highlight, or type directly on the
> image. If you open a tiff, you get all those annotation tools, but if
> you open a jpeg, you don't. Jpgs bring up an 'editing' button (on the
> bottom right, just before the Help button), but that takes you to
> Paint which has the disadvantage mentioned in original post.
>
> J.
====================================
And that's why the methods I offered would be
worth considering.

..jpgs cannot be saved with layers...no matter
what you add to the face of a .jpg it will be flattened
when you resave it as a .jpg.

Advanced image editing software allows layers
that can be re-edited at a future time but the images
would have to be saved in a proprietary format.

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

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Do tiffs normally save in layers? If so, I see what you mean and that would
explain it....

So if I don't mind the annotations becoming permanent upon saving, is there
a way to annotate on the face of a jpg in XP? Paint is no good eg. because it
doesn't allow you to edit text once you leave the text box. I would want to
be able to do simple editing with simple tools (like circling an item in a
photo and writing in its cost) with the annotations editable until I save.

Thanks for the helpful post.
J.


> ..jpgs cannot be saved with layers...no matter
> what you add to the face of a .jpg it will be flattened
> when you resave it as a .jpg.
>
> Advanced image editing software allows layers
> that can be re-edited at a future time but the images
> would have to be saved in a proprietary format.

> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! -
> Digital Image MVP

Janetb wrote:
> Do tiffs normally save in layers? If so, I see what you mean and that
> would explain it....
===================================
Maybe the following link will offer some ideas
about annotating TIFF files.

Windows Picture and Fax Viewer overview
http://tinyurl.com/zf47c
====================================
> So if I don't mind the annotations becoming permanent upon saving, is
> there a way to annotate on the face of a jpg in XP? Paint is no good
> eg. because it doesn't allow you to edit text once you leave the text
> box. I would want to be able to do simple editing with simple tools
> (like circling an item in a photo and writing in its cost) with the
> annotations editable until I save.
>
> Thanks for the helpful post.
> J.
=====================================
Maybe you could use the following new
version of Paint:

Paint.NET
http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
(Requirements: .NET Framework 2.0)

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
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http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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Just a thought...

Since you are familiar with the annotation
options for TIFF files...why not convert your
JPEGs to TIFF?

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Digital Image MVP

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http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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===================================

> Janetb wrote:
>> Do tiffs normally save in layers? If so, I see what you mean and that
>> would explain it....
> ===================================
> Maybe the following link will offer some ideas
> about annotating TIFF files.
>
> Windows Picture and Fax Viewer overview
> http://tinyurl.com/zf47c
> ====================================
>> So if I don't mind the annotations becoming permanent upon saving, is
>> there a way to annotate on the face of a jpg in XP? Paint is no good
>> eg. because it doesn't allow you to edit text once you leave the text
>> box. I would want to be able to do simple editing with simple tools
>> (like circling an item in a photo and writing in its cost) with the
>> annotations editable until I save.
>>
>> Thanks for the helpful post.
>> J.
> =====================================
> Maybe you could use the following new
> version of Paint:
>
> Paint.NET
> http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
> (Requirements: .NET Framework 2.0)

Before last week's upgrade from 2KPro to XP, my procedure was as follows:
1. Very hi-resolution archive photo
2. Saved as email sized jpg to send to clients.
3. Item circled and price typed in over jpg photo using the 2KPro default
image viewer (Kodak Imaging).

Don't want to have to reconvert hundreds of photos to low-res tiffs (in
addition to the jpegs I already have).....

I have in fact managed to install my old Kodak Imaging into my XP, but out
of curiosity it seemed to me XP should have this ability to write on jpgs.
within its own system....Does it not?

Will look at the new version of paint as you suggested, but since I just
installed my new XP last week, I would imagine it is what I have.....

J.

"John Inzer" wrote:
> Since you are familiar with the annotation
> options for TIFF files...why not convert your
> JPEGs to TIFF?
> John Inzer
> MS Picture It! -
> Digital Image MVP

Your link was to Paint 3.07....I have Paint 5.1 on my XP.....:-)......
J.


> > Maybe you could use the following new
> > version of Paint:
> >
> > Paint.NET
> > http://www.getpaint.net/index2.html
> > (Requirements: .NET Framework 2.0)

Janetb wrote:
> Don't want to have to reconvert hundreds of photos to low-res tiffs
> (in addition to the jpegs I already have).....
============================
A batch reformat would be quite easy
but it was just a suggestion.
============================
> I have in fact managed to install my old Kodak Imaging into my XP,
> but out of curiosity it seemed to me XP should have this ability to
> write on jpgs. within its own system....Does it not?
=============================
No, it does not.
=============================
> Will look at the new version of paint as you suggested, but since I
> just installed my new XP last week, I would imagine it is what I
> have.....
>
> J.
==============================
No, that's not the version you have.


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MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

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I am a volunteer

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