Hi to all!

Some time ago I had a problem with re-installing Actual Title Buttons
Lite (always on top / Roll up of program's windows), and I contacted
the author (Michael Tretyakov).

It turned out that ATBL was no longer available from the ActualTools
web site. Since I see ABTL as a really nice and lightweight utility
program, I asked the author (Michael Tretyakov) whether he would object
to the program being made available through my own web site. A few days
later I received a message from him telling that he had no objections,
under the condition that I would point out clearly that there would be
no support for the program from ActualTools.

The program is ready for download from the site now, the page can be
accessed in two ways:

1. From the special downloads menu at http://www.hazeleger.net

2. Directly from: http://www.hazeleger.net/special/atbl.htm

Please note that I, nor anyone else associated with the site, will
provide support for the program; i.o.w. you're on your own.

I have asked Michael Tretyakov to provide a registration code for the
program, so far I haven't heard from him, but as soon as I have
received one, it will be published on the same page as the download,
without any form to fill.

Regards to all;
Dick

Dick Hazeleger wrote:

> Hi to all!
>
> Some time ago I had a problem with re-installing Actual Title Buttons
> Lite (always on top / Roll up of program's windows), and I contacted
> the author (Michael Tretyakov).
>
> It turned out that ATBL was no longer available from the ActualTools
> web site. Since I see ABTL as a really nice and lightweight utility
> program, I asked the author (Michael Tretyakov) whether he would object
> to the program being made available through my own web site. A few days
> later I received a message from him telling that he had no objections,
> under the condition that I would point out clearly that there would be
> no support for the program from ActualTools.
>
> The program is ready for download from the site now, the page can be
> accessed in two ways:
>
> 1. From the special downloads menu at http://www.hazeleger.net
>
> 2. Directly from: http://www.hazeleger.net/special/atbl.htm
>
> Please note that I, nor anyone else associated with the site, will
> provide support for the program; i.o.w. you're on your own.
>
> I have asked Michael Tretyakov to provide a registration code for the
> program, so far I haven't heard from him, but as soon as I have
> received one, it will be published on the same page as the download,
> without any form to fill.

http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115

Actual Title Buttons Lite 2.8
roll-up windows

Registration is free.

Actual Title Buttons Lite lets you add new Rollup/Unroll and Stay on Top
buttons to any windows title bar. The `Stay on Top` option brings the
window to the top of the desktop and RollUp/Unroll lets you minimize
windows so that only the title bars remain visible. The new buttons
integrate smoothly with the existing maximize/minimize buttons and they
can be configured to show only on the applications you choose.
Registration is free.

License: Freeware
Price: Free
Windows: 98/ME/NT/2000/XP
File size: 1801 kb
Downl.Time: ~6 min. or less
Author: Website
Release: 09/13/2004

http://www.actualtools.com/files/atbsetup.exe
1801 KB

What version do you have on your site?

Susan
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"Susan Bugher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Dick Hazeleger wrote:
>
> > Hi to all!
> >
> > Some time ago I had a problem with re-installing Actual Title Buttons
> > Lite (always on top / Roll up of program's windows), and I contacted
> > the author (Michael Tretyakov).
> >
> > It turned out that ATBL was no longer available from the ActualTools
> > web site. Since I see ABTL as a really nice and lightweight utility
> > program, I asked the author (Michael Tretyakov) whether he would object
> > to the program being made available through my own web site. A few days
> > later I received a message from him telling that he had no objections,
> > under the condition that I would point out clearly that there would be
> > no support for the program from ActualTools.
> >
> > The program is ready for download from the site now, the page can be
> > accessed in two ways:
> >
> > 1. From the special downloads menu at http://www.hazeleger.net
> >
> > 2. Directly from: http://www.hazeleger.net/special/atbl.htm
> >
> > Please note that I, nor anyone else associated with the site, will
> > provide support for the program; i.o.w. you're on your own.
> >
> > I have asked Michael Tretyakov to provide a registration code for the
> > program, so far I haven't heard from him, but as soon as I have
> > received one, it will be published on the same page as the download,
> > without any form to fill.
>
> http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115
>
> Actual Title Buttons Lite 2.8
> roll-up windows
>
> Registration is free.
>
> Actual Title Buttons Lite lets you add new Rollup/Unroll and Stay on Top
> buttons to any windows title bar. The `Stay on Top` option brings the
> window to the top of the desktop and RollUp/Unroll lets you minimize
> windows so that only the title bars remain visible. The new buttons
> integrate smoothly with the existing maximize/minimize buttons and they
> can be configured to show only on the applications you choose.
> Registration is free.
>
> License: Freeware
> Price: Free
> Windows: 98/ME/NT/2000/XP
> File size: 1801 kb
> Downl.Time: ~6 min. or less
> Author: Website
> Release: 09/13/2004
>
> http://www.actualtools.com/files/atbsetup.exe
> 1801 KB
>
> What version do you have on your site?
>
> Susan
> --
> Pricelessware Home: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
> acf Posting Tips: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Posting.php
> alt.comp.freeware FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
> Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org



Though http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115 talks about the
Lite version ( atbLsetup.exe ) , the links point ( redirect to ) to the
full version ATBSETUP.EXE.

The lite versions still appears to be on the main site
at http://www.actualtools.com/files/

atblsetup.exe 05-Aug-2003 20:33 1.5M
atblsetup.xml 05-Aug-2003 20:11 11k

rgds
Colin

"Colin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Though http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115 talks about
> the Lite version ( atbLsetup.exe ) , the links point ( redirect to )
> to the full version ATBSETUP.EXE.
>
> The lite versions still appears to be on the main site
> at http://www.actualtools.com/files/
>
> atblsetup.exe 05-Aug-2003 20:33 1.5M
> atblsetup.xml 05-Aug-2003 20:11 11k


Those links point to the full (non-lite) version too.


--
Roger J.

Colin wrote:
> "Susan Bugher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115
>>
>>Actual Title Buttons Lite 2.8
>>roll-up windows
>>
>>Registration is free.
>>
>>Actual Title Buttons Lite lets you add new Rollup/Unroll and Stay on Top
>>buttons to any windows title bar. The `Stay on Top` option brings the
>>window to the top of the desktop and RollUp/Unroll lets you minimize
>>windows so that only the title bars remain visible. The new buttons
>>integrate smoothly with the existing maximize/minimize buttons and they
>>can be configured to show only on the applications you choose.
>>Registration is free.
>>
>>License: Freeware
>>Price: Free
>>Windows: 98/ME/NT/2000/XP
>>File size: 1801 kb
>>Downl.Time: ~6 min. or less
>>Author: Website
>>Release: 09/13/2004
>>
>>http://www.actualtools.com/files/atbsetup.exe
>>1801 KB

> Though http://www.mywebattack.com/gnomeapp.php?id=107115 talks about the
> Lite version ( atbLsetup.exe ) , the links point ( redirect to ) to the
> full version ATBSETUP.EXE.
>
> The lite versions still appears to be on the main site
> at http://www.actualtools.com/files/
>
> atblsetup.exe 05-Aug-2003 20:33 1.5M
> atblsetup.xml 05-Aug-2003 20:11 11k

Hi Colin,

WRONG!

When you view the http://www.actualtools.com/files/ directory
atblsetup.exe shows this link:

http://www.actualtools.com/files/atblsetup.exe

try to download and the link *redirects* to:

http://www.actualtools.com/files/atbsetup.exe (1802 KB) (v 2.8)

FWIW the license agreement says in part:

<q>
2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install
and use the unregistered version of the Software for a reasonable period
of time for the purpose of determining whether the Software is suitable
for your needs. The use of the full version of the Software requires
registration.
</q>

The license for v 2.0 liteware => atblsetup.exe (1581 KB) says exactly
the same thing. . .

I believe I've about reached the point of "Frankly, my dear, I don't
give a damn" what kind of ware this is. . .

Susan
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>
> I believe I've about reached the point of "Frankly, my dear, I don't
> give a damn" what kind of ware this is. . .
>
> Susan
> --
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>
>

I think I believe the same as well, now..
Interesting trick though to have that *redirect* in process..
Colin

"Colin" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> I believe I've about reached the point of "Frankly, my dear, I don't
>> give a damn" what kind of ware this is. . .
>>
>> Susan

> I think I believe the same as well, now..
> Interesting trick though to have that *redirect* in process..

Only people who have a special awareness realize that and avoid
downloading the non-freeware version.

But there is a danger with such redirection tricks.

An "awareness elite" could form and more naturally reacting people could
be led to download the payware version without realizing it.

Then they show up here and ask questions about the payware version..

Then we would have to tell them: Frankly, my dear..


--
Roger J.

"Roger Johansson" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > Only people who have
a special awareness realize that and avoid
> downloading the non-freeware version.
>
> But there is a danger with such redirection tricks.
>
> An "awareness elite" could form and more naturally reacting people could
> be led to download the payware version without realizing it.
>
> Then they show up here and ask questions about the payware version..
>
> Then we would have to tell them: Frankly, my dear..
>
>
> --
> Roger J.

So true Roger; I only "looked" but I didn't "see"; quite unlike my original
training -- I must be getting out of the habit....
All the best ,
Colin

i just downloaded lite from dicks website.


"Susan Bugher" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> WRONG!
>
> When you view the http://www.actualtools.com/files/ directory
> atblsetup.exe shows this link:
>
> http://www.actualtools.com/files/atblsetup.exe
>
> try to download and the link *redirects* to:
>
> http://www.actualtools.com/files/atbsetup.exe (1802 KB) (v 2.8)
>
> FWIW the license agreement says in part:
>
> <q>
> 2. Permitted Uses and Restrictions. This License allows you to install and
> use the unregistered version of the Software for a reasonable period of
> time for the purpose of determining whether the Software is suitable for
> your needs. The use of the full version of the Software requires
> registration.
> </q>
>
> The license for v 2.0 liteware => atblsetup.exe (1581 KB) says exactly the
> same thing. . .
>
> I believe I've about reached the point of "Frankly, my dear, I don't give
> a damn" what kind of ware this is. . .
>
> Susan
> --
> Pricelessware Home: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
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> Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
>
>

no. obviously, susan never considered that the snapflies (webattack) link
hasn't been updated. (that's the link she is talking about but Dick clearly
states that the lite version can only be downloaded from his site)


"Roger Johansson" <no-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns95716226929386336@130.133.1.4...
>
> Only people who have a special awareness realize that and avoid
> downloading the non-freeware version.
>
> But there is a danger with such redirection tricks.
>
> An "awareness elite" could form and more naturally reacting people could
> be led to download the payware version without realizing it.
>
> Then they show up here and ask questions about the payware version..
>
> Then we would have to tell them: Frankly, my dear..