Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I am
going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
current primary/gaming system on
http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...

I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU, and
motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches from
reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).

Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its LiveDrive)
to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
due to weak EAX emulation).

Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red Hat
Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
etc.

Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to show
my system's age like DOOM 3, Far Cry, etc. I do not overclock and my
setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for me.

Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
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Seems to me like you have it nailed. Athlon 64, ASUS motherboard (I would
go for an Nforce3) Audigy 2. That's what I would pick. NVidia's Opengl
drivers are better according to some, so for a video card you may want to go
that route if you game in Linux.

JK

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
newsJmdnVpdlZX63dvcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I am
> going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
> current primary/gaming system on
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...
>
> I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU, and
> motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
> an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches from
> reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
> system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
> which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).
>
> Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its LiveDrive)
> to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
> due to weak EAX emulation).
>
> Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red Hat
> Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
> etc.
>
> Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to show
> my system's age like DOOM 3, Far Cry, etc. I do not overclock and my
> setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
> upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for me.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
> --
>
> "Have I told you how much I like ants, huh? Especially fried in a
> subtle blend of mech fluid and grated gears?" --Rampage to Inferno,
> "Transmutate" in Transformers (Beast Wars)
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
> | |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
> \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
> ( )

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I am
> going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
> current primary/gaming system on
> http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...
>
> I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU, and
> motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
> an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches from
> reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
> system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
> which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).
>
> Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its LiveDrive)
> to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
> due to weak EAX emulation).
>
> Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red Hat
> Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
> etc.
>
> Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to show
> my system's age like DOOM 3,

Since you mentioned Doom 3, I thought you would like to see this.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2149&p=7

> Far Cry,

> etc. I do not overclock and my
> setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
> upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for me.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
> --
>
> "Have I told you how much I like ants, huh? Especially fried in a
> subtle blend of mech fluid and grated gears?" --Rampage to Inferno,
> "Transmutate" in Transformers (Beast Wars)
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
> | |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
> \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
> ( )

Well, I am not ready to let go of this video card. I only had it for one year
and paid like $400 for it!! I think I can still get more FPS because my Athlon
2200+ XP is the bottleneck in getting more FPS.


In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action John Hall <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Seems to me like you have it nailed. Athlon 64, ASUS motherboard (I would
> go for an Nforce3) Audigy 2. That's what I would pick. NVidia's Opengl
> drivers are better according to some, so for a video card you may want to go
> that route if you game in Linux.

> JK

> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> newsJmdnVpdlZX63dvcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I am
> > going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
> > current primary/gaming system on
> > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...
> >
> > I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU, and
> > motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
> > an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches from
> > reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
> > system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
> > which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).
> >
> > Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its LiveDrive)
> > to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
> > due to weak EAX emulation).
> >
> > Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red Hat
> > Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
> > etc.
> >
> > Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to show
> > my system's age like DOOM 3, Far Cry, etc. I do not overclock and my
> > setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
> > upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for me.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
--
"Have I told you how much I like ants, huh? Especially fried in a
subtle blend of mech fluid and grated gears?" --Rampage to Inferno,
"Transmutate" in Transformers (Beast Wars)
/\___/\
/ /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
| |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
\ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
( )

Yeah, I have seen that before. I wanted to get more confirmations from others.
It looks like AMD Athlon 64 will be my next CPU. Now, need to figure out the
motherboard brand and model. Any suggestions? I would like to get a stable
one that has been out more than 3-6 months so I can determine that it has
the known issues fixed, Debian's Kernel has the all the support, etc.


In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action JK <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

> > Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I am
> > going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
> > current primary/gaming system on
> > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...
> >
> > I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU, and
> > motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
> > an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches from
> > reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
> > system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
> > which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).
> >
> > Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its LiveDrive)
> > to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
> > due to weak EAX emulation).
> >
> > Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red Hat
> > Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
> > etc.
> >
> > Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to show
> > my system's age like DOOM 3,

> Since you mentioned Doom 3, I thought you would like to see this.

> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2149&p=7

> > Far Cry,

> > etc. I do not overclock and my
> > setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
> > upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for me.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
--
"Have I told you how much I like ants, huh? Especially fried in a
subtle blend of mech fluid and grated gears?" --Rampage to Inferno,
"Transmutate" in Transformers (Beast Wars)
/\___/\
/ /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
| |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
\ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
( )

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:HLCdnVRf1I7rHNvcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah, I have seen that before. I wanted to get more confirmations from
others.
> It looks like AMD Athlon 64 will be my next CPU.

Be sure to go for a motherboard with the Socket 939 since this is the new
standard. The matching CPUs are somewhat more expensive since they just got
out, though..

Hello,

I want to do the same things like you (changing motherboard, CPU and RAM).
I'm using Debian Sarge and XP. I think about an AMD Athlon 64 (socket 939)
with an MSI K8N Neo2 Platinium motherboard.

Best regards

Ralph

============================================================
*Ralph Stens
*email : (E-Mail Removed)
============================================================

(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Well, I am not ready to let go of this video card. I only had it for one year
> and paid like $400 for it!! I think I can still get more FPS because my Athlon
> 2200+ XP is the bottleneck in getting more FPS.
>

You should be aware then that there's no 64bit Linux driver for any ATi
cards. There's only a basic 2d driver supplied with X.org.

I just got a chaintech cheapie $75 bucks off Newegg, socket 754 (no problem
since when I upgrade its usually time for new Ram and MB options anyhow),
working fine....just...not sure I'd recommend using a single SATA drive as
your only HD option, I can't seem to get my Seagate SATA drive to act as the
boot device reliably.....

If you go Socket 939, you'll be paying big bucks....the boards and chips are
expensive...with the extra money you spend on 939 you could probably upgrade
to a 939 chip and MB in a years time by just sticking with some 754 parts
today, getting the most out of them, and upgrading when the time comes.

Otherwise, the Chaintech is an NForce 3-250 board and has all the tweaks you
could want to overclock with, etc. A great bargain board. There are other
great boards out there, the DFI Lanparty II I think is the current king, but
its brand new and pricy I think......

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:HLCdnVRf1I7rHNvcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Yeah, I have seen that before. I wanted to get more confirmations from
others.
> It looks like AMD Athlon 64 will be my next CPU. Now, need to figure out
the
> motherboard brand and model. Any suggestions? I would like to get a stable
> one that has been out more than 3-6 months so I can determine that it has
> the known issues fixed, Debian's Kernel has the all the support, etc.
>
>
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action JK <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
> > (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> > > Hello. I am planning to upgrade my computer system in a few weeks. I
am
> > > going to replace its motherboard, CPU, and memory. You can view my
> > > current primary/gaming system on
> > > http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt ...
> > >
> > > I am planning to keep all my old parts except sound card, RAM, CPU,
and
> > > motherboard. Now, the question is which CPU and which motherboard (was
> > > an ASUS person in the past) do I want to get. From brief researches
from
> > > reading benchmarks, AMD Athlon64 seems like a good choice for a gaming
> > > system. I read that Intel P4 CPUs does a better job with video stuff
> > > which I rarely do (mostly cropping and encoding with DivX).
> > >
> > > Also, I plan to replace my old SB Live! Platinum (without its
LiveDrive)
> > > to an Audigy2 (good EAX) or maybe a M-Audio Revolutions (probably not
> > > due to weak EAX emulation).
> > >
> > > Also, I will be installing Debian with Windows XP Pro to replace Red
Hat
> > > Linux 7.2. Yes, I do game in Linux with old games like Q3A, RTCW, ET,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Mainly, this upgrade is for gaming. The newest games are starting to
show
> > > my system's age like DOOM 3,
>
> > Since you mentioned Doom 3, I thought you would like to see this.
>
> > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2149&p=7
>
> > > Far Cry,
>
> > > etc. I do not overclock and my
> > > setup must be able to survive in a 85+ degrees(F) room (AC is weak,
> > > upstair room, and Southern CA's heat waves). Heat is a big issue for
me.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions on what I should get for my upgrade is welcomed.
> --
> "Have I told you how much I like ants, huh? Especially fried in a
> subtle blend of mech fluid and grated gears?" --Rampage to Inferno,
> "Transmutate" in Transformers (Beast Wars)
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip (Ant) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx & http://aqfl.net
> | |o o| | E-mail: (E-Mail Removed)NT or (E-Mail Removed)
> \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address if your e-mail was returned.
> ( )

Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, "HeadRusch" <HeadRusch1@NO_SPAM_comcast.net> on Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:03:45 GMT
spoke:

>If you go Socket 939, you'll be paying big bucks....the boards and chips are
>expensive...

Good S939 MBs on Pricewatch start at just over $110.





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