hi,
i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
(as generally as possible and upToDate)
would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?
thanks

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0500, Tanya
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
>(as generally as possible and upToDate)
>would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?

Umm.. that's a bit of a broad question, is there something a bit more
specific you're looking at?

I mean, simply contrasting the companies you might find that they are
both silicon companies, both founded in 1969 by different groups of
people that previously worked at Fairchild Semiconductor. Ohh, and
they both have their headquarters in Silicon Valley, actually just
down the road from one another (Sunnyvale for AMD, Santa Clara for
Intel, about 5KM away).

However, if you're looking at a comparison of specific products, ie
their microprocessors, you might want to check some of the following
links:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2353

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2249

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...tium4-6xx.html

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...d-hammer-1.ars

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed.../pentium-1.ars


Umm.. that should at least get you started! There are LOTS of others
though, it just depends on what specific sort of info you're looking
for.

The long-story short though is that both companies make good
processors that are plenty fast for the vast majority of what people
do. Ohh, that and in almost all cases the processor is a HIGHLY
overrated component when it comes to determining the quality and speed
of a system.

-------------
Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

Tony Hill wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0500, Tanya
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
> >(as generally as possible and upToDate)
> >would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?
>
> Umm.. that's a bit of a broad question, is there something a bit more
> specific you're looking at?
>
> I mean, simply contrasting the companies you might find that they are
> both silicon companies, both founded in 1969 by different groups of
> people that previously worked at Fairchild Semiconductor. Ohh, and
> they both have their headquarters in Silicon Valley, actually just
> down the road from one another (Sunnyvale for AMD, Santa Clara for
> Intel, about 5KM away).
>
> However, if you're looking at a comparison of specific products, ie
> their microprocessors, you might want to check some of the following
> links:
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2353
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2249
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...tium4-6xx.html
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...d-hammer-1.ars
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed.../pentium-1.ars
>
> Umm.. that should at least get you started! There are LOTS of others
> though, it just depends on what specific sort of info you're looking
> for.
>
> The long-story short though is that both companies make good
> processors that are plenty fast for the vast majority of what people
> do. Ohh, that and in almost all cases the processor is a HIGHLY
> overrated component when it comes to determining the quality and speed
> of a system.

Yeah, based on what I've learned so far, start by studying up on main
board bus archetecture (and chipset) and build system on that
foundation. Everything will fall into place from there. You might say
the same going the other way -- starting with processor -- but there's
probably too much quality, and design variation in boards that'll work
with the proc you pick to make that the way to go. Whereas if you start
with the best board you can figure out to get, you can then just pick
the best processor -- by the time you've learned about chipsets, and
bus archetechture, proc'll be a breeze -- that'll work with the board.

Bryan

> -------------
> Tony Hill
> hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

Tony Hill wrote:
>
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0500, Tanya
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
> >(as generally as possible and upToDate)
> >would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?
>
> Umm.. that's a bit of a broad question, is there something a bit more
> specific you're looking at?
>
> I mean, simply contrasting the companies you might find that they are
> both silicon companies, both founded in 1969 by different groups of
> people that previously worked at Fairchild Semiconductor. Ohh, and
> they both have their headquarters in Silicon Valley, actually just
> down the road from one another (Sunnyvale for AMD, Santa Clara for
> Intel, about 5KM away).
>
> However, if you're looking at a comparison of specific products, ie
> their microprocessors, you might want to check some of the following
> links:
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2353
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2249
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...tium4-6xx.html
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...d-hammer-1.ars
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed.../pentium-1.ars
>
> Umm.. that should at least get you started! There are LOTS of others
> though, it just depends on what specific sort of info you're looking
> for.
>
> The long-story short though is that both companies make good
> processors that are plenty fast for the vast majority of what people
> do. Ohh, that and in almost all cases the processor is a HIGHLY
> overrated component when it comes to determining the quality and speed
> of a system.

Yeah, based on what I've learned so far, start by studying up on main
board bus archetecture (and chipset) and build system on that
foundation. Everything will fall into place from there. You might say
the same going the other way -- starting with processor -- but there's
probably too much quality, and design variation in boards that'll work
with the proc you pick to make that the way to go. Whereas if you start
with the best board you can figure out to get, you can then just pick
the best processor -- by the time you've learned about chipsets, and
bus archetechture, proc'll be a breeze -- that'll work with the board.

Bryan

> -------------
> Tony Hill
> hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

Is your goal to build a system or systems for yourself from scratch, or
to simply buy ready-built systems with these processors on it? Or maybe
to upgrade an existing system with one of these processors?

Yousuf Khan

Bryan Hoover wrote:

> Tony Hill wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0500, Tanya
> > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > >i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
> > >(as generally as possible and upToDate)
> > >would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?

<snip>

> > However, if you're looking at a comparison of specific products, ie
> > their microprocessors, you might want to check some of the following
> > links:
> >
> > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2353
> >
> > http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2249
> >
> > http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...tium4-6xx.html
> >
> > http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...d-hammer-1.ars
> >
> > http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed.../pentium-1.ars
> >
> > Umm.. that should at least get you started! There are LOTS of others
> > though, it just depends on what specific sort of info you're looking
> > for.
> >
> > The long-story short though is that both companies make good
> > processors that are plenty fast for the vast majority of what people
> > do. Ohh, that and in almost all cases the processor is a HIGHLY
> > overrated component when it comes to determining the quality and speed
> > of a system.
>
> Yeah, based on what I've learned so far, start by studying up on main
> board bus archetecture (and chipset) and build system on that
> foundation. Everything will fall into place from there. You might say
> the same going the other way -- starting with processor -- but there's
> probably too much quality, and design variation in boards that'll work
> with the proc you pick to make that the way to go. Whereas if you start
> with the best board you can figure out to get, you can then just pick
> the best processor -- by the time you've learned about chipsets, and
> bus archetechture, proc'll be a breeze -- that'll work with the board.

thanks for the reply...
perhaps chip set comparison would be more useful...
sincerely
Tanya
(the boards that i have seen for intel-based systems are fairly similar)


>
>
> Bryan
>
> > -------------
> > Tony Hill
> > hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

Tony Hill wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:04:13 -0500, Tanya
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >i would like to find a Web site / article that contrasts amd w/ intel
> >(as generally as possible and upToDate)
> >would anybody know of a Web site / article which does so?
>
> Umm.. that's a bit of a broad question, is there something a bit more
> specific you're looking at?

<snip>

> However, if you're looking at a comparison of specific products, ie
> their microprocessors, you might want to check some of the following
> links:
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2353
>
> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2249
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...tium4-6xx.html
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed...d-hammer-1.ars
>
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paed.../pentium-1.ars
>
> Umm.. that should at least get you started! There are LOTS of others
> though, it just depends on what specific sort of info you're looking
> for.
>
> The long-story short though is that both companies make good
> processors that are plenty fast for the vast majority of what people
> do. Ohh, that and in almost all cases the processor is a HIGHLY
> overrated component when it comes to determining the quality and speed
> of a system.
>
> -------------
> Tony Hill
> hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca

hi Tony,
i realize that the question is *broad* however if i mention that i want to
put together an intel-based (p4) system, i keep hearing that amd is better
and i would like to know in what?
i appreciate the links, they are interesting and helpful!

sincerely
Tanya

YKhan wrote:

> Is your goal to build a system or systems for yourself from scratch, or
> to simply buy ready-built systems with these processors on it? Or maybe
> to upgrade an existing system with one of these processors?
>
> Yousuf Khan

hi
i'm building a system (pentium 4 based) from scratch
i keep hearing how great amds are and want to make sure that i am not
missing something
thanks

Tanya wrote:

>hi
>i'm building a system (pentium 4 based) from scratch
>i keep hearing how great amds are and want to make sure that i am not
>missing something
>thanks

Most everyone in this group will tell you that AMD is the better
choice, at this point in time. See my "Okay AMD lovers" thread (only
a few days old) for the system that I just built.

chrisv wrote:
> Tanya wrote:
>
>
>>hi
>>i'm building a system (pentium 4 based) from scratch
>>i keep hearing how great amds are and want to make sure that i am not
>>missing something
>>thanks
>
>
> Most everyone in this group will tell you that AMD is the better
> choice, at this point in time. See my "Okay AMD lovers" thread (only
> a few days old) for the system that I just built.
>

And chrisv was one of the hardest ones to convince too.

Yousuf Khan