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      18th Oct 2008
So I'm building a pc for free for me mates child. It will be a AMD set up.

I have a ASUS AM 2 mobo and a ATHALON 64 X2 4800 cpu.

I need a cpu so do I,

1) keep what I have and get a dirt cheap 4400 at 32

All other options give the 4800 to the new build.

2) get a 4850E 2.5 Ghz 1MB L2 45W, low power and 42

3) get a 5400 Black 2.8 Ghz 1 MB L2 65W, low power 60

4) get a 5600 2.8 GHz 2 MB L2 89W, more power 60

5) get a 6000 3.0 Ghz 2MB L2 125W, mega power 60

6) get a Phenom 9550 2.2 Ghz 95W more power 100

7) get a Phenom 9750 2.4 Ghz 95W more power 113

7) get a Phenom 9850 2.5 Ghz 125W mega power 125

I realise that the Phenoms will not use all the L3 cache as they are AM 2 + but they will give better performance in some applications that I use. They can also be used if I ever upgrade my mobo.

All of the cpus above can be clocked for better gaming. The lowly 4850E can get to 3 Ghz so somwhere around 2.8 Ghz should be ok for it to run at when gaming.

So is it worth spending on the Phenoms because of the upgrade path, getting a AM 2+ mobo later would give quite a decent rig and they should be compatible with AM 3.

Do I get the lowly 4850E and clock it for gaming. Cheapest option.Lowest power use.

The 5400 has low power use but low L2 cache while the 5600 uses more power but has more L2 cache.

The 6000 sucks up power but is pretty darn fast.

The lower power Phenoms with a tiny tweak will give decent gaming and can be tweaked to around 2.8 Ghz but will run hot.

All the cpus will run on my mobo I have read so many reviews and tests etc that I simply can not make up me mind.

An for the wise guys , yes I should have gone to Intel in the first place.


 

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      18th Oct 2008
Either the 2.6Ghz or the 2.8Ghz that has the 2mb of cache and is low power would be my vote.
 
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So you recon option 3 or 4 then, I'm still a bit confused as to how much difference that extra L2 cache is worth to performance.


 

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Well its double, thats what i would go for, 2.6 is prob best for money/performance.
 
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Well its double, thats what i would go for, 2.6 is prob best for money/performance.
I figured out that it was double. Just could not find a review that gave results for a L2 x 2MB and a L2 x 1 MB on the same Ghz rated cpu so I could see what REAL difference it made.

I was thinking option 4) as I'm not quite clear as to if the Phenoms will be worth the extra on my present mobo.

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      18th Oct 2008
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{4) get a 5600 2.8 GHz 2 MB L2 89W, more power 60
No problem with this one I use on 2PCs fast! Very fast Low power you wont even notice L2 cache..... Crunch Crunch....

 
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No problem with this one I use on 2PCs fast! Very fast Low power you wont even notice L2 cache..... Crunch Crunch....
Are you saying that the L2 cache is not important ?

Dabs have the lower L2 cache in the 65W version for 58.


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64-bit ComputingYes Clock Speed2.9 GHz Compatible Processor SocketSocket AM2 Core Voltage1.325 V/1.35 V/1.375 V FeaturesAMD64 technologyEnhanced Virus ProtectionHyperTransport technologyIntegrated memory controller ManufacturerAMD Manufacturing Process65 nm Multi-Core TechnologyDual-Core Power EfficiencyEnergy Efficient Processor Number5600+ Thermal Design Power65 WMe brains reeling with all the info I have looked at.


 

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Are you saying that the L2 cache is not important ?
Not to me but then again I ain`t a games-master It is a matter of 15% between L2 AND L4 Like I say I doubt you would notice the difference as for speed how fast you want to go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

 
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      26th Oct 2008
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Well I finally went for the 5600 2 x 512 L2 65W Brisbane. I know it wont be as fast as a Windsor but it should be better than me 4800. I just could not make me mind up what with new cpus around the corner etc. So I decided that I could play at overclocking with me present system and that I would get pretty good gaming as I am not playing the very latest games.

Yeah I know I should have gone to Specsavers

 

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