I have an HP slimline computer, VISTA operating system. Today, I
"inherited" a G.Skills AMD Phenom 64 machine. I'd like to know how
this machine differs from my current machine, and the approximate
cost. (I see it has a DVD outlet.) I have no idea what value to list
on my insurance, and find little searching for info outside "gamers".
What does this machine do that my HP does not?

We don't know as you did not give any specs for either machine. .HP slimline
are sold in
various configurations and G>Skills AMD etc. .describes a Ram Module
manufacturer and a certain
"brand" of AMD chip but no speed nor motherboard nor accompanying
peripherals like Hard drives,CD/DVD player
Video card,how much Ram and the speed and name of the chip.
For all we know it could be in a Diamond encrusted case!!!
Value ??? educated guess would be 100 US $$ old machines lose their value
fast!!

peter

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"Peach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3a6a0cf5-c333-43a9-8a6b-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have an HP slimline computer, VISTA operating system. Today, I
> "inherited" a G.Skills AMD Phenom 64 machine. I'd like to know how
> this machine differs from my current machine, and the approximate
> cost. (I see it has a DVD outlet.) I have no idea what value to list
> on my insurance, and find little searching for info outside "gamers".
> What does this machine do that my HP does not?

On 7ÔÂ10ÈÕ, ÉÏÎç8ʱ55·Ö, Peach <djchris...@nefcom.net> wrote:
> I have an HP slimline computer, VISTA operating system. Today, I
> "inherited" a G.Skills AMD Phenom 64 machine. I'd like to know how
> this machine differs from my current machine, and the approximate
> cost. (I see it has a DVD outlet.) I have no idea what value to list
> on my insurance, and find little searching for info outside "gamers".
> What does this machine do that my HP does not?

Hello, I see your spelling mistake, the correct should be "amateur"!
You should try an app called "Everest", which is used for detecting
the specifacation( or configuration) of your hardware(and even your
whole computer system) without the need of open the computer case.
Also try "CPU-Z" and "GPU-Z", the former tells you about your CPU and
your memory etc. as well as the latter tells you about your graphics
card. Then you may surf "newegg.com" to get the detail of your
hardware, such as the performance, the "birthday" and the old or new
price. As to the use of your machine, you can surf the website of the
manufacturer to read the introduction of those hardwares.
I wonder if you got the machine through a normal way anyway.

"Peach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3a6a0cf5-c333-43a9-8a6b-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have an HP slimline computer, VISTA operating system. Today, I
> "inherited" a G.Skills AMD Phenom 64 machine. I'd like to know how
> this machine differs from my current machine, and the approximate
> cost. (I see it has a DVD outlet.) I have no idea what value to list
> on my insurance, and find little searching for info outside "gamers".
> What does this machine do that my HP does not?

OK, if the new machine is a Phenom, then you likely have a MUCH more
powerful processor (CPU) than the one that is in your HP slimline computer.
HP anything tends to skimp (badly) on really important parts like video
cards and POWER SUPPLIES in particular. And as you mentioned a DVD outlet,
my best guess:

The new one has a REAL power supply, possibly even a good name brand.
The new one has a REAL video card, probably a good chipset to it, also.
And the new one (not a guess) has a MUCH more powerful CPU in it.

I doubt if you will care, seeing as you were previously getting by with an
HP slimline computer system. But the new system will likely play games much
better than the old one...if the old one will allow you to play games at
all. Oh, and the new system is likely to be much more stable and last
longer, too. I base that on, the new one seems to be a (custom built?)
clone, and any clone is going to be MUCH better quality than anything
branded HP.

As someone else hinted at though, this is not worth listing on your (I
assume Homeowner's) insurance. By the time you go to make a claim on a loss
of this system, you could buy a used replacement for about $50, maybe
ess. -Dave

Thank you for responding. My HP is a Pavilion, the G.Skills is 6
months old, plain black box, Vista Ultimate operating system, but
little written info on the outside. It does have multiple slots for
cards etc. I rarely need graphics, working mostly with the written
word (with or without spell check, as was noted) I have little use
for advanced graphics, and wanted to how best to use this new one.
Perhaps the manufacturer will indulge me.

"Peach" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:8928594a-825c-45e4-af55-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thank you for responding. My HP is a Pavilion, the G.Skills is 6
> months old, plain black box, Vista Ultimate operating system, but
> little written info on the outside. It does have multiple slots for
> cards etc. I rarely need graphics, working mostly with the written
> word (with or without spell check, as was noted) I have little use
> for advanced graphics, and wanted to how best to use this new one.
> Perhaps the manufacturer will indulge me.

You could just think of your Pavilion as consumer grade - like a Toyota
Corolla. And think of your "G.Skills" as performance grade - like a Saab or
a BMW. The Pavilion will do all the things a regular user wants a computer
to do, but the "G.Skills" could do more and better/faster. You will probably
not ever need to use the performance features of the "G.Skills" just as you
would probably never take your Saab out for a rally race, but it is nice to
know you could if the opportunity ever came up. Use the new one just like
the old one. You will know when (and if) you need to do more.

Peach wrote:
> Thank you for responding. My HP is a Pavilion, the G.Skills is 6
> months old, plain black box, Vista Ultimate operating system, but
> little written info on the outside. It does have multiple slots for
> cards etc. I rarely need graphics, working mostly with the written
> word (with or without spell check, as was noted) I have little use
> for advanced graphics, and wanted to how best to use this new one.
> Perhaps the manufacturer will indulge me.

You can run Belarc Advisor, to get an inventory of the hardware in
your G.Skills box. It will not give the computer an overall
make and model number, but it will list the hardware components,
including the graphics solution (cheap integrated graphics
or an expensive graphics card). Based on a list of the hardware
in the computer, it is easier to assign a value to it.

http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html

Do *not* copy the entire Belarc contents, into a USENET posting,
without first examining it for privacy issues. The license key for
your OS is listed there, and you don't want to give that key away
to the USENET community. Just copy the bits of the Belarc, important
to its valuation.

This is some of the selected output for my current system

*******
System Model: Enclosure Type: Desktop <--- Not usable info
Processor: 2.60 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo
Main Circuit Board: 4CoreDual-SATA2
Drives: 121.92 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
MSI CD-RW CR52 [CD-ROM drive]
Memory Modules: Slot 'DIMM0' has 1024 MB
Slot 'DIMM1' has 1024 MB
Display:
RADEON 9800 PRO (Microsoft Corporation) [Display adapter]
NEC LCD1765 [Monitor] (17.1")

Multimedia: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device ($7 sound card!)
*******

The Belarc report doesn't say how ugly the case looks, but if a
buyer didn't like the case, they're pretty easy to replace.

Also, Belarc doesn't know the size or quality of the power supply.
Really good power supplies can go for as much as $250.00, while
cheesy ones go for $20.00 . Take the size cover off the box, and
copy the stuff printed on the label, if you want to identify it.

If you dump selected parts of the Belarc report, into a posting,
then someone may be able to give you a value. Due to depreciation,
and the amount of old systems of a certain vintage kicking around,
some older systems aren't worth much at all (market is saturated).
For example, a computer with a 3GHz Pentium 4 (P4), is still
perfectly usable for general work, and yet in some places,
might not have that high a value. In some other country, it might
have a much higher asking price.

Paul

Thanks again, this explained it well.
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You could just think of your Pavilion as consumer grade - like a
Toyota
Corolla. And think of your "G.Skills" as performance grade - like a
Saab or
a BMW. The Pavilion will do all the things a regular user wants a
computer
to do, but the "G.Skills" could do more and better/faster. You will
probably
not ever need to use the performance features of the "G.Skills" just
as you
would probably never take your Saab out for a rally race, but it is
nice to
know you could if the opportunity ever came up. Use the new one just
like
the old one. You will know when (and if) you need to do more.

More thanks. I appreciate the time others have taken to answer these
questions.

TVeblen wrote:

> You could just think of your Pavilion as consumer grade - like a Toyota
> Corolla. And think of your "G.Skills" as performance grade - like a Saab or
> a BMW. The Pavilion will do all the things a regular user wants a computer
> to do, but the "G.Skills" could do more and better/faster. You will probably
> not ever need to use the performance features of the "G.Skills" just as you
> would probably never take your Saab out for a rally race, but it is nice to
> know you could if the opportunity ever came up. Use the new one just like
> the old one. You will know when (and if) you need to do more.

I don't see that G.Skill makes computers. You would make these assumptions
based upon a sticker?

www.gskill.com
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