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      30th Mar 2006
I've just discovered absolute positioning (after 3 years of using fp2002,
duh). I like that I can position elements exactly where I want them.

I have read threads here by some of you gurus who suggest not using it if
not neccessary or at the very least that it can cause its own set of problems.

I'm curious why. I'm in the process of re-doing a 50+ page website for a
company and I don't want to get 48 pages into the thing and find out I
shouldn't have set my tables, graphics etc up using this positioning.

BTW, I'm no pro at FP and do not know how to write html but I'm not a newbie
at this either.

Thanks!
 
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      30th Mar 2006

After reading some of these threads, I must admit that I AM a newbie and
really don't know doodly about web site development (though I thought I did
LOL)!

Please word your answers to my question accordingly.

Duh,

Forrest Gump

 
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Stefan B Rusynko
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      30th Mar 2006
If done correctly by someone who understands Html and CSS2 (and cross browser issues) they are fine
- if you do not, don't use absolute positioning

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"Beckwheat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:34B0C311-CC90-412A-9D05-(E-Mail Removed)...
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| After reading some of these threads, I must admit that I AM a newbie and
| really don't know doodly about web site development (though I thought I did
| LOL)!
|
| Please word your answers to my question accordingly.
|
| Duh,
|
| Forrest Gump
|


 
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      30th Mar 2006
A picture is worth a thousand words.
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/remote_image.htm uses Absolute
Positioning (AP) to locate some images. This page does demonstrate
the problem of absolutely positioned layers "moving around", which is
one of the main proms associated with AP.
Open the page in a browser, and make sure the browser is NOT at full
screen.
Hover the mouse pointer over one of the buttons (do not click any),
such as Tests Home and notice the image that pops up. This image is
in an absolutely positioned layer.
Now change the size of the browser window by dragging the sides in and
out, notice how the image changes its location?
Now adjust the text size in the browser - in IE use View->Text-size
and change to some other size. The image will appear to move again.
Things get worse if you have text inside the layer, and resize the
text.

Before you use AP on your site, learn how to overcome these problems -
it is usually best to not use AP at all, though there are places (such
as menus) where AP is very useful. The menu at
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/ uses AP, but changing the font-size
(still working on IE's "Largest" font size) or browser size does not
seriously affect the menu.
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"Beckwheat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:34B0C311-CC90-412A-9D05-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> After reading some of these threads, I must admit that I AM a newbie
> and
> really don't know doodly about web site development (though I
> thought I did
> LOL)!
>
> Please word your answers to my question accordingly.
>
> Duh,
>
> Forrest Gump
>



 
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Murray
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      30th Mar 2006
Here's another page -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layer-overlap.asp

Go there and resize the text in your browser. That's one of the larger
problems of using 'layers' as a layout method....

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"Ronx" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:uD1D8o%(E-Mail Removed)...
>A picture is worth a thousand words.
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/tests/remote_image.htm uses Absolute
> Positioning (AP) to locate some images. This page does demonstrate the
> problem of absolutely positioned layers "moving around", which is one of
> the main proms associated with AP.
> Open the page in a browser, and make sure the browser is NOT at full
> screen.
> Hover the mouse pointer over one of the buttons (do not click any), such
> as Tests Home and notice the image that pops up. This image is in an
> absolutely positioned layer.
> Now change the size of the browser window by dragging the sides in and
> out, notice how the image changes its location?
> Now adjust the text size in the browser - in IE use View->Text-size and
> change to some other size. The image will appear to move again.
> Things get worse if you have text inside the layer, and resize the text.
>
> Before you use AP on your site, learn how to overcome these problems - it
> is usually best to not use AP at all, though there are places (such as
> menus) where AP is very useful. The menu at
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/ uses AP, but changing the font-size (still
> working on IE's "Largest" font size) or browser size does not seriously
> affect the menu.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>
> "Beckwheat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:34B0C311-CC90-412A-9D05-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> After reading some of these threads, I must admit that I AM a newbie and
>> really don't know doodly about web site development (though I thought I
>> did
>> LOL)!
>>
>> Please word your answers to my question accordingly.
>>
>> Duh,
>>
>> Forrest Gump
>>

>
>



 
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Windsun
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      31st Mar 2006
Absolute positioning can be great - it can also be a real mess if you don't
understand how it works (or does not work) with different browsers, screen
sizes, etc.

It is CSS, and CSS is a whole different game than just HTML.

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"Beckwheat" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B068EFE1-259C-40C6-AEE2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've just discovered absolute positioning (after 3 years of using fp2002,
> duh). I like that I can position elements exactly where I want them.
>
> I have read threads here by some of you gurus who suggest not using it if
> not neccessary or at the very least that it can cause its own set of
> problems.
>
> I'm curious why. I'm in the process of re-doing a 50+ page website for a
> company and I don't want to get 48 pages into the thing and find out I
> shouldn't have set my tables, graphics etc up using this positioning.
>
> BTW, I'm no pro at FP and do not know how to write html but I'm not a
> newbie
> at this either.
>
> Thanks!



 
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