Hi.
Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
management program, "Quicken?"

I've been using Quicken for a few years. However, I hate the
way this company treats its customers (arrogant as all hell;
absolutely unreachable, advertises at you whether you like
it or not). I won't tolerate my software interrupting me
with an advertisement, especially if I've paid the bastards
for the product.

Thanks.

Richard

There's really only Quicken & Money and both have their problems. There may
be some others left around, but I don't think there is anything that has as
much functionality as either of these programs. I've been using Quicken
since 1996 and my data file is about 10MB. When Quicken came out with their
new design with Quicken 2003 with ads all over the place, I wrote a letter
to the President and returned it. I then tried Money 2003, which claimed to
be able to convert Quicken data files. WRONG! To make a long story short,
after speaking with the Money "support" group I discovered that the Quicken
data convert rarely worked on anything but the most basic of Quicken files.
Also, Money does not log conversion errors when it tries to do a Quicken
convert, indicating that Microsoft doesn't care much about getting
dissatisfied Quicken users onboard. I got my money back form Microsoft.

I am existing with the Quicken 2002 version and will stay with it as long as
it works. Hopefully, someone will see that this is an area they can make
some money in and jump into the fray. If they do, the MUST be able to
accept and convert ANY size Quicken data file. I agree with you and I don't
want to buy anything again from Intuit but I am stuck with a big and
complicated data file and I don't want to lose all the data I have in it.
The old rock and the hard place. But at least I haven't paid them for
upgrades to the 2003 or 2004 versions which is $100-140 they would have
gotten from me (I have the Home & Business edition)!

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"Richard Steinfeld" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3J1Sb.11489$(E-Mail Removed)...
Hi.
Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
management program, "Quicken?"

I've been using Quicken for a few years. However, I hate the
way this company treats its customers (arrogant as all hell;
absolutely unreachable, advertises at you whether you like
it or not). I won't tolerate my software interrupting me
with an advertisement, especially if I've paid the bastards
for the product.

Thanks.

Richard

"Richard Steinfeld" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:3J1Sb.11489$(E-Mail Removed):

> Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
> management program, "Quicken?"
>

AceMoney Lite:
http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/

Only supports one account though.
Older versions of Acemoney are freeware and support multiple accounts.
Do a Google search if you want to find them.

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Richard Steinfeld wrote:

> Hi.
> Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
> management program, "Quicken?"
>
> I've been using Quicken for a few years. However, I hate the
> way this company treats its customers (arrogant as all hell;
> absolutely unreachable, advertises at you whether you like
> it or not). I won't tolerate my software interrupting me
> with an advertisement, especially if I've paid the bastards
> for the product.

Richard,
You might want to look at some of the stuff here:

http://freewarehome.com/Home_and_Hob...Finance_t.html

I got that link from this page:

http://www.all4you.dk/FreewareWorld/links.php?cat=008

Of course, if you're looking for an exact replacement for Quicken,
that's unlikely to happen. But if Quicken is overkill for you (as it
is for most people) you should be able to find a freeware program that
meets your needs. In fact, here's a program you might be able to use:

http://www.mechcad.net/products/acem...ndex_lite.html


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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:04:55 GMT, RE: Re: Alternative to Quicken
"Bill Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I am existing with the Quicken 2002 version and will stay with it as long as
>it works.

I'm still using Quicken v6.0 for DOS from 1992. I only use the check
register feature, but it works fine.

I believe that you'll get many years of use from your version.

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OK.
Now it's time to go OT, that "T" being "freeware."
The question has now become: Is there any affordable
alternative to Quicken and Money?
I understand now that there is a problem with being able to
export existing Quicken data successfully into MS Money.

But here's a different scenario.

1. Realize that quicken data may not import into anything
else.
2. Leave one's old data in Quicken and retain Quicken to
handle the old files.
3. Acquire a new program from a nicer company, whether free
(on-topic) or bought (off-topic).

I want to bring up another "mini-me."
Let's say that a couple of Windows versions down the road,
and our old Quickens will no longer behave under the new
OSs: what then?

Perhaps it may be time to adopt the philosophy of our
current Junta and take preemptive action. I/we are after a
sensible solution here.

Richard

"Richard Steinfeld" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message news:3J1Sb.11489$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi.
> Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
> management program, "Quicken?"
>
> I've been using Quicken for a few years. However, I hate
the
> way this company treats its customers (arrogant as all
hell;
> absolutely unreachable, advertises at you whether you like
> it or not). I won't tolerate my software interrupting me
> with an advertisement, especially if I've paid the
bastards
> for the product.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Richard
>

Vic Dura wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:04:55 GMT, RE: Re: Alternative to Quicken
> "Bill Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I am existing with the Quicken 2002 version and will stay with it as
>> long as it works.
>
> I'm still using Quicken v6.0 for DOS from 1992. I only use the check
> register feature, but it works fine.

If all that is required is a checkbook register, then this is a good
solution. I use it myself.
http://www.pagetutor.com/checkbook/
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HTH

Richard Steinfeld wrote:
> OK.
> Now it's time to go OT, that "T" being "freeware."
> The question has now become: Is there any affordable
> alternative to Quicken and Money?
> I understand now that there is a problem with being able to
> export existing Quicken data successfully into MS Money.
>
> But here's a different scenario.
>
> 1. Realize that quicken data may not import into anything
> else.
> 2. Leave one's old data in Quicken and retain Quicken to
> handle the old files.
> 3. Acquire a new program from a nicer company, whether free
> (on-topic) or bought (off-topic).
>
> I want to bring up another "mini-me."
> Let's say that a couple of Windows versions down the road,
> and our old Quickens will no longer behave under the new
> OSs: what then?
>
> Perhaps it may be time to adopt the philosophy of our
> current Junta and take preemptive action. I/we are after a
> sensible solution here.
>
> Richard
>
> "Richard Steinfeld" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
> in message news:3J1Sb.11489$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>Hi.
>>Anyone know a good alternative to the personal financial
>>management program, "Quicken?"
>>
>>I've been using Quicken for a few years. However, I hate
>
> the
>
>>way this company treats its customers (arrogant as all
>
> hell;
>

There at least 2 free programs that I have imported Quicken data into
that run under Linux. The main one is GNUCash (free) and the other is
Moneydancer (free download and they ask you to pay if it works for you).
The downside is no support for online banking although Moneydancer has
some wizard that I haven't figured out yet.

Rick


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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:04:55 GMT, "Bill Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

....>
>I am existing with the Quicken 2002 version and will stay with it as long as
>it works.

I'm in the same boat. I was forced to switch to Quicken from MYM when
my bank, the Royal Bank of Canada stopped supporting PCBanking on the
latter program (which they owned), and forced all their online
customers into Internet Banking with Quicken. They provided a fairly
poor data conversion program (which lost all my categories), and
offered a small discount on the purchase of Quicken Basic 2000.

In the late summer of 2002, I got an e-mail from Quicken saying my
online functions would cease to work in six weeks unless I paid them
$100 a year or $15 a month towards the as yet unreleased 2003 version
of Quicken Canadian. They couldn't even give me the system
requirements or features of the product!

I stalled, and managed to hang on until November, when the new version
hit the stores, only to find my system didn't meet the sytem
requirements. Of course, by that time, 2002 wasn't available anymore.
I was lucky to find a copy of 2002 Basic on the shelf of a small
computer shop in the interior of BC, and bought some more time.

However, my understanding is that Intuit will disable the online
(download into QW) functions of its program two years after
publication, in April. So it would seem that we're doomed to buy a new
version this spring unless our banks provide us qif files to download.
Mine is working with Quicken to screw its customers, providing only
OFX files, which apparently can't be imported without Intuit's
intervention.

> Hopefully, someone will see that this is an area they can make
>some money in and jump into the fray. If they do, the MUST be able to
>accept and convert ANY size Quicken data file. I agree with you and I don't
>want to buy anything again from Intuit but I am stuck with a big and
>complicated data file and I don't want to lose all the data I have in it.
>The old rock and the hard place. But at least I haven't paid them for
>upgrades to the 2003 or 2004 versions which is $100-140 they would have
>gotten from me (I have the Home & Business edition)!

I've been told that the Linux program MoneyDance can handle Quicken
data files, and import downloaded bank transactions. But I haven't
looked into it myself yet. I'm planning to in the near future though.





Achim



axethetax

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)ax
says...
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:04:55 GMT, "Bill Jones" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> ...>
> >I am existing with the Quicken 2002 version and will stay with it as long as
> >it works.
>
> I'm in the same boat. I was forced to switch to Quicken from MYM when
> my bank, the Royal Bank of Canada stopped supporting PCBanking on the
> latter program (which they owned), and forced all their online
> customers into Internet Banking with Quicken.
>
>
>
>
Why you stick with them amazes me. Pull out and bank with Bank of
Montreal - online banking is free.
POKO
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