On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:07:06 -0500, Susan Bugher
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

<<SNIP>>

>>>There was a recent discussion about all this (spread across several
>>>different threads). The information post attempts to deal with
>>>"perceived" reality. Google shows the four acf newsgroups listed in the
>>>post as being related. See:
>>>
>>>http://www.google.ca/groups?safe=ima...&num=100&hl=en

So, Google is now the authority that we use to define our spectrum?

>>>Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
>>>posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
>>>posted here. See:

Again, so any web site that want to post parts of ACF in its 'forums'
dictates what is and is not 'ours'??

Or am I missing something?

--
The Seabat

seabat wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:07:06 -0500, Susan Bugher
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> <<SNIP>>
>
>>>>There was a recent discussion about all this (spread across several
>>>>different threads). The information post attempts to deal with
>>>>"perceived" reality. Google shows the four acf newsgroups listed in the
>>>>post as being related. See:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.google.ca/groups?safe=ima...&num=100&hl=en
>
> So, Google is now the authority that we use to define our spectrum?

Huh? The post says "alt.comp.freeware newsgroups include" Fact - four
newsgroups use "alt.comp.freeware" in their name. Google groups them
together. News servers group them together.

>>>>Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
>>>>posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
>>>>posted here. See:
>
> Again, so any web site that want to post parts of ACF in its 'forums'
> dictates what is and is not 'ours'??

People send messages in the forums - those messages are posted in ACF -
people who read ACF newsgroup posts reply to those posts. Which messages
are "ours"?

Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki
Pricelessware (not maintained): http://www.pricelessware.org

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:07:06 -0500, Susan Bugher
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Dewey Edwards wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:45:35 -0500, Susan Bugher
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory, were there ever "newbies" unsure of where to
>> post? I will address your better suggestion request below.
>
>>>I see the same people posting in both acf and acf.discussion. I'm not
>>>sure what your point is.

I think you mean crossposting.

>> Then ACFD is superfluous. Boomer started this years ago. She
>> routinely pushed discussions into that group rather than reply here.
>
>> Anyway - alt.comp.freeware is all I need. Any others?"

Not my words, my quote of nead's words. But you reasonably got the
gist.

>There was a recent discussion about all this (spread across several
>different threads). The information post attempts to deal with
>"perceived" reality. Google shows the four acf newsgroups listed in the
>post as being related.

Google also shows that alt.comp has 227 groups as related. I sure
as hell would be ****ed off, if anyone there tried to make this
their chat room.

>Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
>posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
>posted here. See:

>http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/

Would you REALLY take seriously any change to this group suggested
there.

>Google for your name or mine if you want to see more web forums that
>carry acf posts. . .

They can carry them, hopefully accurately. But that is NOT ACF.
ACF is here.

One last, Google shows our hierarchy:

ACFD - a group that was formed without knowledge of this one, to
perform pretty much the same function as ACF.

ACFG - a group whose formation was discussed here and approved to be
a subset of ACF.

ACFGDP - (pretty much dead) a group to discuss group programming of
freeware. Not a subset.

If you want a "chat" room, many here use alt . ewgroup . for . fun .
fun . fun

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:07:06 -0500, Susan Bugher
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Dewey Edwards wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:45:35 -0500, Susan Bugher
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> Refresh my memory, were there ever "newbies" unsure of where to
>> post? I will address your better suggestion request below.
>
>>>I see the same people posting in both acf and acf.discussion. I'm not
>>>sure what your point is.

I think you mean crossposting.

>> Then ACFD is superfluous. Boomer started this years ago. She
>> routinely pushed discussions into that group rather than reply here.
>
>> Anyway - alt.comp.freeware is all I need. Any others?"

Not my words, my quote of nead's words. But you reasonably got the
gist.

>There was a recent discussion about all this (spread across several
>different threads). The information post attempts to deal with
>"perceived" reality. Google shows the four acf newsgroups listed in the
>post as being related.

Google also shows that alt.comp has 227 groups as related. I sure
as hell would be ****ed off, if anyone there tried to make this
their chat room.

>Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
>posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
>posted here. See:

>http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/

Would you REALLY take seriously any change to this group suggested
there.

>Google for your name or mine if you want to see more web forums that
>carry acf posts. . .

They can carry them, hopefully accurately. But that is NOT ACF.
ACF is here.

One last, Google shows our hierarchy:

ACFD - a group that was formed without knowledge of this one, to
perform pretty much the same function as ACF.

ACFG - a group whose formation was discussed here and approved to be
a subset of ACF.

ACFGDP - (pretty much dead) a group to discuss group programming of
freeware. Not a subset.

If you want a "chat" room, many here use
alt.newgroup.for.fun.fun.fun

Dewey Edwards wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:07:06 -0500, Susan Bugher
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>>Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
>>posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
>>posted here. See:
>
>>http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/
>
> Would you REALLY take seriously any change to this group suggested
> there.

"We has met the enemy and they is us." seems to apply here. I repeat:
messages and replies in the forums are posted in ACF.

Susan
--
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
ACF FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html
ACF wiki: http://www.markcarter.me.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AcfWiki
Pricelessware (not maintained): http://www.pricelessware.org

Susan Bugher wrote:
> Dewey Edwards wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:45:35 -0500, Susan Bugher
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>> Refresh my memory, were there ever "newbies" unsure of where to
>> post? I will address your better suggestion request below.
>
>
>>> I see the same people posting in both acf and acf.discussion. I'm not
>>> sure what your point is.
>>
>>
>> Then ACFD is superfluous. Boomer started this years ago. She
>> routinely pushed discussions into that group rather than reply here.
>
>
>> Anyway - alt.comp.freeware is all I need. Any others?"
>
>
> There was a recent discussion about all this (spread across several
> different threads). The information post attempts to deal with
> "perceived" reality. Google shows the four acf newsgroups listed in the
> post as being related. See:
>
> http://www.google.ca/groups?safe=ima...&num=100&hl=en
>
>
> Some web sites display alt.comp.freeware posts as if they are being
> posted to a web forum hosted by that site - replies in the "forum" are
> posted here. See:
>
> http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/
>
> <q>
> Freeware Software
> General discussions regarding freeware software.
> Moderators Alexander, Harmer
>
> http://www.sixfiles.com/forum/viewforum2.html
> </q>
>
> Google for your name or mine if you want to see more web forums that
> carry acf posts. . .
>
> Susan


there is an acf group on yahoo which has a java based chat room
specifically for acf interpretors ;-)