I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup? Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home Edition.

there is a post following these that addresses the HOW
TO. going to try it here.

I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right click, choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
Hope this helps.
J.J.

"Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:

> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup? Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home Edition.

Hi JJ,

What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger
or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.

He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you propose
to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has some
sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right click,
>choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
> You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
>>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
> Hope this helps.
> J.J.
>
> "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
>
>> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
>> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and
>> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I
>> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used
>> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I
>> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go
>> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup?
>> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always
>> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home
>> Edition.

Hi Jonathan,
thanks for putting me *STRAIGHT*

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi JJ,
>
> What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger
> or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
>
> He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you propose
> to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has some
> sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>
> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right click,
> >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
> > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
> >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
> > Hope this helps.
> > J.J.
> >
> > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
> >
> >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
> >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and
> >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I
> >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used
> >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I
> >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go
> >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup?
> >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always
> >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home
> >> Edition.
>
>
>

Look guys the problem is no more. A utility "Safe XP" at http://www.theorica.tk/ fixed it. Thank you both for your help. And yes Jonathan I'm sure it is not microsoft approved.

Cliff Taylor

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi JJ,
>
> What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger
> or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
>
> He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you propose
> to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has some
> sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>
> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right click,
> >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
> > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
> >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
> > Hope this helps.
> > J.J.
> >
> > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
> >
> >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
> >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and
> >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I
> >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used
> >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I
> >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go
> >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup?
> >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always
> >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home
> >> Edition.
>
>
>

Look guys the problem is no more. A utility "Safe XP" at http://www.theorica.tk/ fixed it. Thank you both for your help. And yes Jonathan I'm sure it is not microsoft approved.

Cliff Taylor

"J.J." wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
> thanks for putting me *STRAIGHT*
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Hi JJ,
> >
> > What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN Messenger
> > or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
> >
> > He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you propose
> > to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
> > Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has some
> > sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
> > ____________________________________________
> > Jonathan Kay
> > Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> > Associate Expert
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> > Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> > All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> > You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >
> > "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right click,
> > >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
> > > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
> > >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
> > > Hope this helps.
> > > J.J.
> > >
> > > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
> > >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe and
> > >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but I
> > >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first used
> > >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back. I
> > >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to go
> > >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the startup?
> > >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always
> > >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP Home
> > >> Edition.
> >
> >
> >

Hi JJ,

I do apologize if I came off as harsh, that was not my intention. I do however believe in
commenting on these "myths", or else they just continue to go on.
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:77D81DB0-C7B3-458C-8E62-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi Jonathan,
> thanks for putting me *STRAIGHT*
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi JJ,
>>
>> What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN
>> Messenger
>> or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
>>
>> He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you
>> propose
>> to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
>> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has some
>> sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>
>> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right
>> >click,
>> >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
>> > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
>> >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
>> > Hope this helps.
>> > J.J.
>> >
>> > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
>> >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off msnmsgr.exe
>> >> and
>> >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail, but
>> >> I
>> >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and first
>> >> used
>> >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right back.
>> >> I
>> >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way to
>> >> go
>> >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the
>> >> startup?
>> >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it always
>> >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP
>> >> Home
>> >> Edition.
>>
>>
>>

Hi JJ,

The only two things you might encounter (in Windows itself anyway) is that Remote Assistance
will no longer work and depending on what settings you have in Outlook Express, it may appear
to "freeze" when you start it (you can solve this by simply running this .reg file:
http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...ssenger_oe.reg)

Other than that, everything should be normal =).
____________________________________________
Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.

"J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:FBD49FB3-4255-4039-8985-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Jonathan,
> I've kept up with your comments and realise how off the track I was. My apologies.
> A question, if you don't mind? I got rid of MSN from 'Windows Add or Remove', but I've
> deleted Messenger from Program Files, have I let myself in for probs? I havn't encountered
> any yet.
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Hi JJ,
>>
>> I do apologize if I came off as harsh, that was not my intention. I do however believe in
>> commenting on these "myths", or else they just continue to go on.
>> ____________________________________________
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> Associate Expert
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>>
>> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:77D81DB0-C7B3-458C-8E62-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi Jonathan,
>> > thanks for putting me *STRAIGHT*
>> >
>> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi JJ,
>> >>
>> >> What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN
>> >> Messenger
>> >> or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
>> >>
>> >> He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you
>> >> propose
>> >> to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
>> >> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has
>> >> some
>> >> sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
>> >> ____________________________________________
>> >> Jonathan Kay
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
>> >> Associate Expert
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
>> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
>> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>> >>
>> >> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right
>> >> >click,
>> >> >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
>> >> > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
>> >> >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
>> >> > Hope this helps.
>> >> > J.J.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
>> >> >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off
>> >> >> msnmsgr.exe
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and
>> >> >> first
>> >> >> used
>> >> >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right
>> >> >> back.
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> go
>> >> >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the
>> >> >> startup?
>> >> >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it
>> >> >> always
>> >> >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP
>> >> >> Home
>> >> >> Edition.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Jonathan,
I've unchecked 'Auto logon to Win Messenger' in OE and as I say I've not had any probs yet (Hope that's not 'Famous last words'..........)
Cheers,
J.J.

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Hi JJ,
>
> The only two things you might encounter (in Windows itself anyway) is that Remote Assistance
> will no longer work and depending on what settings you have in Outlook Express, it may appear
> to "freeze" when you start it (you can solve this by simply running this .reg file:
> http://messenger.jonathankay.com/dow...ssenger_oe.reg)
>
> Other than that, everything should be normal =).
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
>
> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:FBD49FB3-4255-4039-8985-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Thanks Jonathan,
> > I've kept up with your comments and realise how off the track I was. My apologies.
> > A question, if you don't mind? I got rid of MSN from 'Windows Add or Remove', but I've
> > deleted Messenger from Program Files, have I let myself in for probs? I havn't encountered
> > any yet.
> >
> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi JJ,
> >>
> >> I do apologize if I came off as harsh, that was not my intention. I do however believe in
> >> commenting on these "myths", or else they just continue to go on.
> >> ____________________________________________
> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >> Associate Expert
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >>
> >> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:77D81DB0-C7B3-458C-8E62-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> > Hi Jonathan,
> >> > thanks for putting me *STRAIGHT*
> >> >
> >> > "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi JJ,
> >> >>
> >> >> What's in "Services" is the Messenger Service, which has *NOTHING* to do with MSN
> >> >> Messenger
> >> >> or Windows Messenger, it is the built-in networking messaging service within Windows.
> >> >>
> >> >> He is also referring to MSN Messenger here, not Windows Messenger (which is what you
> >> >> propose
> >> >> to "rename"). Renaming the folder also isn't a good idea because it can cause the
> >> >> Whiteboard, Application Sharing, Remote Assistance and any other application that has
> >> >> some
> >> >> sort of Messenger support (like Outlook Express) to either freeze or not work at all.
> >> >> ____________________________________________
> >> >> Jonathan Kay
> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> >> >> Associate Expert
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> >> >> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> >> >> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
> >> >> You *must* contact me for redistribution rights.
> >> >>
> >> >> "J.J." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> >> news:9513309C-8062-4484-B8EB-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> >> >I disabled Messenger from Control Panel>Services, scroll down to messenger and right
> >> >> >click,
> >> >> >choose properties and 'Stop' Messenger if it is running then set to disabled.
> >> >> > You could also boot into 'Safe Mode' and delete the Messenger folder from
> >> >> >>Start>My Computer>Program Files, scroll down to messenger and delete.
> >> >> > Hope this helps.
> >> >> > J.J.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Cliff Taylor (E-Mail Removed)" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I also don't want msn.messenger to log on to the internet and throw up two annoying
> >> >> >> screens every time I turn on my computer. I've used msconfig to shut off
> >> >> >> msnmsgr.exe
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> it works until I check my e-mail then it is back. I do want to use my msn e-mail,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> don't want msn.messenger at all. I just followed the WinMsgr link you gave and
> >> >> >> first
> >> >> >> used
> >> >> >> the Preferences tab instructions. No good. Checked my e-mail and it came right
> >> >> >> back.
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> then used the registry Messenger\Client instructions. Also no good. Is there a way
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> go
> >> >> >> into the registry and put in a line to remove or disable the msnmsgr.exe in the
> >> >> >> startup?
> >> >> >> Well I guess my computer has msn messenger herpes. I can't get rid of it and it
> >> >> >> always
> >> >> >> comes back. Please help if you can! I'm very very frustrated here. I also run XP
> >> >> >> Home
> >> >> >> Edition.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>