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All-in-wonder purchase help please

 
 
SDR
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      20th Apr 2006

I have a 9800 pro AIW at present and am upgrading the system. I think
I want top go PCi-e route but need an AIW card.

I am totally confused about the various X series options now. I need
this as I have a lot of VHS tapes which I need to convert to DVD. Also
I am in UK so PAL is a must.

Any recommendations will be very much appreciated. I want to keep the
spend to the minimum. Incidentally I will be using it with AMD 64
3700+, 1gb memory system.
 
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Tom Scales
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      20th Apr 2006

"SDR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I have a 9800 pro AIW at present and am upgrading the system. I think
> I want top go PCi-e route but need an AIW card.
>
> I am totally confused about the various X series options now. I need
> this as I have a lot of VHS tapes which I need to convert to DVD. Also
> I am in UK so PAL is a must.
>
> Any recommendations will be very much appreciated. I want to keep the
> spend to the minimum. Incidentally I will be using it with AMD 64
> 3700+, 1gb memory system.


If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.


 
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Jim Bailey
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      20th Apr 2006
Tom - sorry to jump in - but I'm thinking of doing this also. What video
card would you recommend to compliment this ? I have a Dell 24" flat panel
at 1920x1200, a 2.8GHz P4, 1 GB, and I'm not a gamer - I do DB development
but like to occasionaly watch TV while working.

Currently using All InWonder 2006 PCIExpress and it's simply flaky- want to
move away from it to something more stable.

Thanks.

jim

"Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
> Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
> software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.
>



 
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Tom Scales
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      20th Apr 2006
Darn near any decent card will work for you. I happened to pick up a nice
nVidia 6600 recently and it works flawlessly on my 1920x1080p LCD panel.

If you want two tuners, go with the Hauppauge PVR-500

Tom
"Jim Bailey" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Tom - sorry to jump in - but I'm thinking of doing this also. What video
> card would you recommend to compliment this ? I have a Dell 24" flat panel
> at 1920x1200, a 2.8GHz P4, 1 GB, and I'm not a gamer - I do DB
> development but like to occasionaly watch TV while working.
>
> Currently using All InWonder 2006 PCIExpress and it's simply flaky- want
> to move away from it to something more stable.
>
> Thanks.
>
> jim
>
> "Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6hK1g.174498$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
>> Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
>> software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.
>>

>
>



 
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SDR
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      20th Apr 2006
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:30:10 GMT, "Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
>Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
>software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.
>


I was under the impression that the ATI AIW cards are hardware
encoders as it captures MPEG2 on the fly. For Hauppauge option, is the
250 worth considering? I do not need the 2 tuner 500 option.

Am I correct in saying that these Hauppauge cards can capture from a
Hi8 analogue camcorder using composite leads?
 
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Tom Scales
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      20th Apr 2006

"SDR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:30:10 GMT, "Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
>>Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
>>software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.
>>

>
> I was under the impression that the ATI AIW cards are hardware
> encoders as it captures MPEG2 on the fly. For Hauppauge option, is the
> 250 worth considering? I do not need the 2 tuner 500 option.
>
> Am I correct in saying that these Hauppauge cards can capture from a
> Hi8 analogue camcorder using composite leads?


As far as I know, NONE of the AIW have a hardware encoder. Just because it
saves to Mpeg does not mean hardware encoder.

The 250 is fine (I have one), but the 150 is cheaper and a little newer
(read better).

You'd be surprised how many tuners you need. I have 7!

Tom


 
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      21st Apr 2006

"Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "SDR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:30:10 GMT, "Tom Scales" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>If you're upgrading, I'd suggest you separate the output from the input.
>>>Buy a good video card and then buy a Hauppauge PVR-150 card. The AIW are
>>>software encoders and more trouble than they're worth.
>>>

>>
>> I was under the impression that the ATI AIW cards are hardware
>> encoders as it captures MPEG2 on the fly. For Hauppauge option, is the
>> 250 worth considering? I do not need the 2 tuner 500 option.
>>
>> Am I correct in saying that these Hauppauge cards can capture from a
>> Hi8 analogue camcorder using composite leads?

>
> As far as I know, NONE of the AIW have a hardware encoder. Just because
> it saves to Mpeg does not mean hardware encoder.
>
> The 250 is fine (I have one), but the 150 is cheaper and a little newer
> (read better).
>
> You'd be surprised how many tuners you need. I have 7!
>
> Tom
>


I got a 150 happ and the aiw. They both work okay for me. Some differences
between them. The mainconcept software will capture from the happ, but not
my aiw.

I need avi files sometimes. The aiw will capture that, but not the happ.
The other way is to record to my sony camera, it outputs avi. I mostly
capture cable tv stuff. Use it in several editing packages, premiere, edius,
then dvd it.

xman


 
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SDR
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      21st Apr 2006
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:20:59 -0700, "xmradio" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I got a 150 happ and the aiw. They both work okay for me. Some differences
>between them. The mainconcept software will capture from the happ, but not
>my aiw.
>
>I need avi files sometimes. The aiw will capture that, but not the happ.
>The other way is to record to my sony camera, it outputs avi. I mostly
>capture cable tv stuff. Use it in several editing packages, premiere, edius,
>then dvd it.
>
>xman


Have you captured from an analogue source such as VCR please? If so,
which card, in your opinion, performs better?
 
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xmradio
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      22nd Apr 2006

"SDR" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:20:59 -0700, "xmradio" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>I got a 150 happ and the aiw. They both work okay for me. Some differences
>>between them. The mainconcept software will capture from the happ, but not
>>my aiw.
>>
>>I need avi files sometimes. The aiw will capture that, but not the happ.
>>The other way is to record to my sony camera, it outputs avi. I mostly
>>capture cable tv stuff. Use it in several editing packages, premiere,
>>edius,
>>then dvd it.
>>
>>xman

>
> Have you captured from an analogue source such as VCR please? If so,
> which card, in your opinion, performs better?


No captures from vcrs. Got rid of them a year back.

xman



 
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Gato Loco
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      22nd Apr 2006
Be warned that if you are going to run XP x64, that ATI software
support for AIW products is non existent. I mention this since you
designated a 64 bit processor. SO capture is a bit tough.

cheers
gato loco


On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 06:34:37 GMT, SDR <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

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>I have a 9800 pro AIW at present and am upgrading the system. I think
>I want top go PCi-e route but need an AIW card.
>
>I am totally confused about the various X series options now. I need
>this as I have a lot of VHS tapes which I need to convert to DVD. Also
>I am in UK so PAL is a must.
>
>Any recommendations will be very much appreciated. I want to keep the
>spend to the minimum. Incidentally I will be using it with AMD 64
>3700+, 1gb memory system.


 
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