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Aligning one image on top of an (almost identical) image

 
 
Aaron Queenan
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      13th Apr 2004
Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one image
over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a blue
image over the matching part of a red and green image.

I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry. The
result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the blue
channel.

I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either the
red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried produces
an image with detail in all three channels.

As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and 108
matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them properly,
preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.

Thanks,
Aaron Queenan


 
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Don
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      13th Apr 2004
Try alt.graphics.photoshop or comp.graphics.apps.photoshop

Don


"Aaron Queenan" <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote in message
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> Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one image
> over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a

blue
> image over the matching part of a red and green image.
>
> I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry. The
> result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the

blue
> channel.
>
> I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either the
> red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried

produces
> an image with detail in all three channels.
>
> As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and 108
> matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them properly,
> preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron Queenan
>
>



 
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Don
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      13th Apr 2004
Sorry, my mistake. I see you have already cross-posted :-(

Don



"Don" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Try alt.graphics.photoshop or comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
>
> Don
>
>
> "Aaron Queenan" <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote in

message
> news:c5h4m5$eof$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one

image
> > over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a

> blue
> > image over the matching part of a red and green image.
> >
> > I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry.

The
> > result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the

> blue
> > channel.
> >
> > I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either

the
> > red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried

> produces
> > an image with detail in all three channels.
> >
> > As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and

108
> > matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them

properly,
> > preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron Queenan
> >
> >

>
>



 
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Johan W. Elzenga
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      13th Apr 2004
Aaron Queenan <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote:

> Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one image
> over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a blue
> image over the matching part of a red and green image.
>
> I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry. The
> result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the blue
> channel.
>
> I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either the
> red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried produces
> an image with detail in all three channels.
>
> As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and 108
> matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them properly,
> preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.


Drag and drop while holding the SHIFT key should align them perfectly.


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Ron Hunter
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      13th Apr 2004
Aaron Queenan wrote:

> Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one image
> over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a blue
> image over the matching part of a red and green image.
>
> I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry. The
> result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the blue
> channel.
>
> I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either the
> red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried produces
> an image with detail in all three channels.
>
> As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and 108
> matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them properly,
> preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron Queenan
>
>

Any photo editor that supports layers will do what you want, and
PhotoShop (and Elements) will do this.
 
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      14th Apr 2004

"Aaron Queenan" <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote in message
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> Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one image
> over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a

blue
> image over the matching part of a red and green image.
>
> I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry. The
> result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the

blue
> channel.
>
> I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either the
> red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried

produces
> an image with detail in all three channels.
>
> As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and 108
> matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them properly,
> preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.
>

The only thing I can think of would be to copy and paste in different
layers. Then adjust each layer for optimum. This adjustment should be
recorded as an 'Action' in Photoshop. Then it will be a simple matter of
calling up each picture paste and set the Action.


 
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      14th Apr 2004

"Johan W. Elzenga" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Aaron Queenan <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote:


> Drag and drop while holding the SHIFT key should align them perfectly.


Yes - do what Johan says. Sheesh - it's not rocket science.


 
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Mac McDougald
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      14th Apr 2004
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
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> "Johan W. Elzenga" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:1gc7804.gjr52m6e472wN%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Aaron Queenan <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote:

>
> > Drag and drop while holding the SHIFT key should align them perfectly.

>
> Yes - do what Johan says. Sheesh - it's not rocket science.


Well, that aligns image to center of layer, but does not necessarily
align one image to the other, if they aren't perfectly aligned to begin
with in reality (from camera,scanner, whatever originals).

You can of course reduce opacity of your top layer temporarily to see to
align but one is still doing it manually.

Mac
 
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Stephen H. Westin
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      14th Apr 2004
Mac McDougald <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
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> >
> > "Johan W. Elzenga" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:1gc7804.gjr52m6e472wN%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Aaron Queenan <aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au> wrote:

> >
> > > Drag and drop while holding the SHIFT key should align them perfectly.

> >
> > Yes - do what Johan says. Sheesh - it's not rocket science.

>
> Well, that aligns image to center of layer, but does not necessarily
> align one image to the other, if they aren't perfectly aligned to begin
> with in reality (from camera,scanner, whatever originals).
>
> You can of course reduce opacity of your top layer temporarily to see to
> align but one is still doing it manually.


Not to mention that most of the methods suggested seem to be limited
to single-pixel resolution (you really want subpixel resolution) and
all of them seem to ignore the possibility of rotation or warp in
addition to a shift. A warp could come about from any inconsistency in
scan rate from frame to frame.

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Aaron Queenan
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      14th Apr 2004
"stewy" {(E-Mail Removed)} wrote in message
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}
} "Aaron Queenan" {aqueenan_DieSpammerDie_@contingent.com.au} wrote in
message
} news:c5h4m5$eof$(E-Mail Removed)...
} } Is there any software (or feature in Photoshop) that will align one
image
} } over another image that is almost identical? Ideally it could align a
} blue
} } image over the matching part of a red and green image.
} }
} } I have some negative film, (accidentally) developed in E6 chemistry.
The
} } result is that the red and green channels are very dark compared to the
} blue
} } channel.
} }
} } I can adjust the gain (really the exposure) in NikonScan to get either
the
} } red and green channel OR the blue channel, but nothing I have tried
} produces
} } an image with detail in all three channels.
} }
} } As a result, I have 108 images with valid red and green channels, and
108
} } matching images with a valid blue channel. I need to align them
properly,
} } preferably without having to do the whole thing by hand.
} }
} The only thing I can think of would be to copy and paste in different
} layers. Then adjust each layer for optimum. This adjustment should be
} recorded as an 'Action' in Photoshop. Then it will be a simple matter of
} calling up each picture paste and set the Action.

Unfortunately, the x,y ofset for each image is different, because they were
scanned separately, so I'd really do with a program that aligns them
automatically.

Of course, I'd rather not pay too much for it, because it would only take a
few hours to do the job by hand, after all. *sigh*

Aaron.


 
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