http://mysteryfcm.plus.com/chris/

this ftp site contains a very great collection AI (artificial intelligence)
software for MS DOS and a little bit AI software for MacIntosh, OS/2, Unix
and Warp.
There are also some good old dos utilities and games.
It's all freeware.


Over 500 Mb Artificial Intelligence software, divided in

AI data sets
AI languages like prolog, lisp
AI papers
AI various
Artificial life
Embedded
Expert systems
Fractals
Fuzzy Logic
Genetic algorithm
Hypertext
Macintosh - os/2 AI software
Mind games
Msdos utilities
Neural Networks
Neural Networks for Windows 3.x
Nlp - natural language processing
Robotics
Speech
Virtual reality
Vision

On that special day, chris, ((E-Mail Removed)) said...

> There are also some good old dos utilities and games.
> It's all freeware.

Really? I checked a game that was called "Wallmaster", and the first
thing I see in the readme, is, it is SHAREWARE.


Gabriele Neukam

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> > There are also some good old dos utilities and games.
> > It's all freeware.
>
> Really? I checked a game that was called "Wallmaster", and the first
> thing I see in the readme, is, it is SHAREWARE.
>
>
> Gabriele Neukam

you mean wallpipe?
yep, you are right. It is shareware; the file_id.diz didn't mention it. I
had to say : most of the software is freeware.
I have updated the indexes that this software is shareware. Shareware is
limited freeware so that must be the reason
it was on the list. I hope there are not too much surprises left for me.

>"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> > There are also some good old dos utilities and games.

>> Really? I checked a game that was called "Wallmaster", and the first
>> thing I see in the readme, is, it is SHAREWARE.

>you mean wallpipe?
>yep, you are right. It is shareware; the file_id.diz didn't mention it. I
>had to say : most of the software is freeware.
>I have updated the indexes that this software is shareware. Shareware is
>limited freeware so that must be the reason
>it was on the list. I hope there are not too much surprises left for me.

I "think" that all of the DOS archive programs are shareware. I know
PK has always been shareware. It's been too long to recall arj, zoo,
lha, and the rest, but I do think these might be shareware also.

Shareware was the thing in DOS days. The NE (No Edlin) editor is the
only one I recognize as freeware. This was very rare. That's a pretty
nice editor too. It just doesn't run right in higher versions of Win.





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"REM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...

> I "think" that all of the DOS archive programs are shareware. I know
> PK has always been shareware. It's been too long to recall arj, zoo,
> lha, and the rest, but I do think these might be shareware also.

no, you were strongly recommended to pay for the use of pkzip; pkunzip was
free. Just like
the other archivers. I had a pkzip licence and that's why all the programs
are archived by pkzip.
You didn't have to look everywhere for fancy archivers like zoo or ice.

> Shareware was the thing in DOS days. The NE (No Edlin) editor is the
> only one I recognize as freeware. This was very rare. That's a pretty
> nice editor too. It just doesn't run right in higher versions of Win.

indeed, a lot of flopy based games were shareware. If I remember well there
were level restrictions to play the entire game, but time limited like
today?
Freeware programs aren't that rare. A freeware program demands no support,
administration, tax paying, distribution lines, etc.. You like it or not.
It's more than a fulltime job to handle all the questions if you write
shareware. The missery alone already to support all the graphic cards.

>On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:41:22 +0100, "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>no, you were strongly recommended to pay for the use of pkzip

PKZip was always shareware.

Phillip W. Katz died 14 April 2000 at the age of 37.

The long frank recipe was perfected by a German butcher, Johann Georg
Lahner, who lived from 1771 to 1845. He developed such sausages while
working in Frankfurt and later in Vienna. From those towns are derived
the words “frankfurter” and “wiener.”

> "chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>"REM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

>> I "think" that all of the DOS archive programs are shareware. I know
>> PK has always been shareware. It's been too long to recall arj, zoo,
>> lha, and the rest, but I do think these might be shareware also.

>no, you were strongly recommended to pay for the use of pkzip; pkunzip was
>free.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SHAREWARE version of PKZIP 2.50 for DOS is intended for use on
DOS 2.0 or later running on an x86/Pentium processor. If you plan to
distribute the Shareware version of PKZIP 2.50 for DOS to friends,
associates, or to an online service, please distribute the file
PK250DOS.EXE rather than individual files.

Installation
--------------
To install PKZIP 2.50 for DOS:
....
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This little program is great for making an html page of all text files
in a directory:

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/zipindexator12.html

It's very easy to glean over the docs. The above was a Readme, rather
than the license.txt file.




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"chris" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> "REM" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>> I "think" that all of the DOS archive programs are
>> shareware. I know PK has always been shareware. It's been
>> too long to recall arj, zoo, lha, and the rest, but I do
>> think these might be shareware also.
>
> no, you were strongly recommended to pay for the use of
> pkzip; pkunzip was free. Just like
> the other archivers. I had a pkzip licence and that's why
> all the programs are archived by pkzip.
> -snip-
FWIW
[ quote ]

pkunzip /?
PKUNZIP (R) FAST! Extract Utility Version 2.50 03-01-
1999
Copr. 1989-1999 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Shareware
Version
PKUNZIP Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

zip2exe /?
ZIP2EXE (tm) Self-Extract Creator Version 2.04g 02-
01-93
Copyr. 1989-1993 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved. Shareware
Version

arj /?
-snip-
ARJ Copyright (c) 1990-92 Robert K Jung. All rights reserved.

ARJ is shareware and as such is NOT FREE for use in a business,
commercial,
government, or institutional environment. Registration of ARJ
for personal
(not at the office) use is not mandatory. If you find ARJ
useful, you are
encouraged to register your copy for $35 (US). Your financial
support is
needed to encourage further improvements to ARJ. Business,
commercial,
government, or institutional ARJ users must register ARJ after a
30 day
evaluation period as noted in the license document. For more
information
concerning ARJ, see the accompanying documentation or contact:

lharc /?
LHARC 1.14ß (c) Yoshi, 1988-89
-snip-
You may copy or distribute without any donations to me.

[ /quote ]

J
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:38:13 GMT, Mel wrote:

> PKZip was always shareware.

Yes. And no: Versions 1.x where free for noncommercial usage:

| SOFTWARE LICENSE
|
|
| PKZIP (tm) FAST! Create/Update Utility
| PKUNZIP (tm) FAST! Extract Utility
| PKSFX (R) FAST! Self-Extract Utility
| Copyright 1989 PKWARE Inc. All Rights Reserved
|
| PKSFX Registered U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
|
|
| You are free to use, copy and distribute PKZIP, PKUNZIP, and
| PKSFX for NONCOMMERCIAL use if:
|
| No fee is charged for use, copying or distribution.
|
| It is not modified in any way.

A 'sometimes free' kind of Shareware. Later versions did not provide
this possibility of rightful free usage.

BeAr
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:41:22 +0100, chris wrote:

> no, you were strongly recommended to pay for the use of pkzip; pkunzip was
> free.

No. It's a common mistake which has its root in the unarj program:

From License:
| UNARJ SOURCE CODE:
|
| Available in a separately distributed archive is the program UNARJ.EXE
| and its C source code. UNARJ is a simple ARJ archive extraction
| program.
|
| You may freely use, copy, and distribute UNARJ.EXE, provided that no
| fee is charged for such use, copying or distribution.
|
| This source code is intended to promote the building of utilities to
| support the use of ARJ and ARJ archives.

PkUnzip had always the same license status as the PkZip program with the
same version number. That's why it had been free for personal use up to
v1.x and was non-free at all later.

>> Shareware was the thing in DOS days. The NE (No Edlin) editor is the
>> only one I recognize as freeware. This was very rare.
[Snip]
> Freeware programs aren't that rare.

You are right. I have hundreds (if not thousands) of free programs for
DOS on disk. The feeling that one had to pay more often for programs in
past than today results from the distribution channels, IMHO. You had
to *pay* to get a Freeware or Public Domain program on a disk. And if
you used BBS you often payed the same amount of download telephone
charges as you had to pay for a resentful priced Shareware program to
the author(s).

BeAr
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