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Billy
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      25th Jun 2004
June 24, 2004

Time was, Condoleezza Rice was admonishing the North Koreans -- who were
offering to dismantle their nuclear programme in exchange for food aid --
that the United States would not be victimised by Korean bribery.

Condi and friends are now whistling a different tune:

Seeking to persuade North Korea to abandon its threat to produce nuclear
weapons, the Bush administration yesterday for the first time handed the
North a detailed proposal promising an aid package and a guarantee not to
attack in exchange for a commitment to abandon its nuclear ambitions.

Now, any reason the Bush Administration couldn't have offered to lift Iraq's
sanctions had Saddam "in exchange" offered a "commitment to abandon its
nuclear ambitions"?
Well, maybe because the Bush Administration (like the Clinton Administration
before it) was well aware that Saddam had long since abandoned his nuclear
(and other banned weapons) ambitions, not to mention the weapons
themselves -- if only because he knew that it was a fool's game to try to
out-gun the Israelis and the Americans.

Given the Bush Administration's latest about-face, can there be any doubt
whatsoever that the Administration had absolutely zero expectations of
finding any sign of an extant banned weapons programme in Iraq?

Good ol' Scottie McClellan is keeping a stiff upper-lip, anyway: "One way to
look at this is to look at the Libya model. Good-faith action on North
Korea's part will be met with good-faith response by the other parties."

No doubt the U.S. will soon be making a similar "good-faith" offer to
Iran -- which, it was reported a few months ago, "could be unstoppably on
its way to producing nuclear material for its own bombs" as soon as this
summer.

So if the Bush Administration can offer "good-faith" negotiations with two
of the three charter members of the Axis Of Evil club, why not with the
third? (Of course, it's probably now wishing it had done.)

Simple: it saw Iraq as entirely defenceless. In other words, having disarmed
at least eight years prior to Bush's merry war, it had nothing of value to
offer in return -- save perhaps an oil concession, which the Bush
Administration preferred to take outright.

Given that it was a country with a military budget 400 times smaller than
the United States', with no weapons of mass destruction to its name, and
reeling from a decade of the most punitive sanctions regime in history;
stealing Iraq's oil should have been as easy as the proverbial taking of
candy from an infant.

Instead, the battered, bruised, and beleaguered Iraqis have stalemated and
crippled the U.S. military. (Retired General Barry McCaffrey goes even
further: "The Army is accelerating downhill at the moment, and if the course
isn't changed, we could damage it significantly or even break it in the next
five years.")

The "good-faith" offer to Iran is thus probably a foregone conclusion.
Begging the question, how soon 'til the United States makes a "good-faith"
offer to bin Laden, marking the official collapse of the "War On Terror" (a
topic to which this blogger will return in the near future)?

And, natch, how deftly will Limbaugh and McClellan be able to spin the
ignominious grovelling at the feet of the gooks and the towel-heads?


 
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James
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      25th Jun 2004
And this has what to do with Windows XP?

>-----Original Message-----
>June 24, 2004
>
>Time was, Condoleezza Rice was admonishing the North

Koreans -- who were
>offering to dismantle their nuclear programme in exchange

for food aid --
>that the United States would not be victimised by Korean

bribery.
>
>Condi and friends are now whistling a different tune:
>
>Seeking to persuade North Korea to abandon its threat to

produce nuclear
>weapons, the Bush administration yesterday for the first

time handed the
>North a detailed proposal promising an aid package and a

guarantee not to
>attack in exchange for a commitment to abandon its

nuclear ambitions.
>
>Now, any reason the Bush Administration couldn't have

offered to lift Iraq's
>sanctions had Saddam "in exchange" offered a "commitment

to abandon its
>nuclear ambitions"?
>Well, maybe because the Bush Administration (like the

Clinton Administration
>before it) was well aware that Saddam had long since

abandoned his nuclear
>(and other banned weapons) ambitions, not to mention the

weapons
>themselves -- if only because he knew that it was a

fool's game to try to
>out-gun the Israelis and the Americans.
>
>Given the Bush Administration's latest about-face, can

there be any doubt
>whatsoever that the Administration had absolutely zero

expectations of
>finding any sign of an extant banned weapons programme in

Iraq?
>
>Good ol' Scottie McClellan is keeping a stiff upper-lip,

anyway: "One way to
>look at this is to look at the Libya model. Good-faith

action on North
>Korea's part will be met with good-faith response by the

other parties."
>
>No doubt the U.S. will soon be making a similar "good-

faith" offer to
>Iran -- which, it was reported a few months ago, "could

be unstoppably on
>its way to producing nuclear material for its own bombs"

as soon as this
>summer.
>
>So if the Bush Administration can offer "good-faith"

negotiations with two
>of the three charter members of the Axis Of Evil club,

why not with the
>third? (Of course, it's probably now wishing it had done.)
>
>Simple: it saw Iraq as entirely defenceless. In other

words, having disarmed
>at least eight years prior to Bush's merry war, it had

nothing of value to
>offer in return -- save perhaps an oil concession, which

the Bush
>Administration preferred to take outright.
>
>Given that it was a country with a military budget 400

times smaller than
>the United States', with no weapons of mass destruction

to its name, and
>reeling from a decade of the most punitive sanctions

regime in history;
>stealing Iraq's oil should have been as easy as the

proverbial taking of
>candy from an infant.
>
>Instead, the battered, bruised, and beleaguered Iraqis

have stalemated and
>crippled the U.S. military. (Retired General Barry

McCaffrey goes even
>further: "The Army is accelerating downhill at the

moment, and if the course
>isn't changed, we could damage it significantly or even

break it in the next
>five years.")
>
>The "good-faith" offer to Iran is thus probably a

foregone conclusion.
>Begging the question, how soon 'til the United States

makes a "good-faith"
>offer to bin Laden, marking the official collapse of

the "War On Terror" (a
>topic to which this blogger will return in the near

future)?
>
>And, natch, how deftly will Limbaugh and McClellan be

able to spin the
>ignominious grovelling at the feet of the gooks and the

towel-heads?
>
>
>.
>

 
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David
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      25th Jun 2004
Bush2's statement: "We are in the Age of Attrition: Aren't We?"

"Billy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> June 24, 2004
>
> Time was, Condoleezza Rice was admonishing the North Koreans -- who were
> offering to dismantle their nuclear programme in exchange for food aid --
> that the United States would not be victimised by Korean bribery.
>
> Condi and friends are now whistling a different tune:
>
> Seeking to persuade North Korea to abandon its threat to produce nuclear
> weapons, the Bush administration yesterday for the first time handed the
> North a detailed proposal promising an aid package and a guarantee not to
> attack in exchange for a commitment to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
>
> Now, any reason the Bush Administration couldn't have offered to lift

Iraq's
> sanctions had Saddam "in exchange" offered a "commitment to abandon its
> nuclear ambitions"?
> Well, maybe because the Bush Administration (like the Clinton

Administration
> before it) was well aware that Saddam had long since abandoned his nuclear
> (and other banned weapons) ambitions, not to mention the weapons
> themselves -- if only because he knew that it was a fool's game to try to
> out-gun the Israelis and the Americans.
>
> Given the Bush Administration's latest about-face, can there be any doubt
> whatsoever that the Administration had absolutely zero expectations of
> finding any sign of an extant banned weapons programme in Iraq?
>
> Good ol' Scottie McClellan is keeping a stiff upper-lip, anyway: "One way

to
> look at this is to look at the Libya model. Good-faith action on North
> Korea's part will be met with good-faith response by the other parties."
>
> No doubt the U.S. will soon be making a similar "good-faith" offer to
> Iran -- which, it was reported a few months ago, "could be unstoppably on
> its way to producing nuclear material for its own bombs" as soon as this
> summer.
>
> So if the Bush Administration can offer "good-faith" negotiations with two
> of the three charter members of the Axis Of Evil club, why not with the
> third? (Of course, it's probably now wishing it had done.)
>
> Simple: it saw Iraq as entirely defenceless. In other words, having

disarmed
> at least eight years prior to Bush's merry war, it had nothing of value to
> offer in return -- save perhaps an oil concession, which the Bush
> Administration preferred to take outright.
>
> Given that it was a country with a military budget 400 times smaller than
> the United States', with no weapons of mass destruction to its name, and
> reeling from a decade of the most punitive sanctions regime in history;
> stealing Iraq's oil should have been as easy as the proverbial taking of
> candy from an infant.
>
> Instead, the battered, bruised, and beleaguered Iraqis have stalemated and
> crippled the U.S. military. (Retired General Barry McCaffrey goes even
> further: "The Army is accelerating downhill at the moment, and if the

course
> isn't changed, we could damage it significantly or even break it in the

next
> five years.")
>
> The "good-faith" offer to Iran is thus probably a foregone conclusion.
> Begging the question, how soon 'til the United States makes a "good-faith"
> offer to bin Laden, marking the official collapse of the "War On Terror"

(a
> topic to which this blogger will return in the near future)?
>
> And, natch, how deftly will Limbaugh and McClellan be able to spin the
> ignominious grovelling at the feet of the gooks and the towel-heads?
>
>



 
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