Hi, guys!

Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
Any information about it would be very appreciated!

Thomas

AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF Controls
(Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc) and OS
primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is visible in
the browser but has no immediate use

"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, guys!
>
> Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> Any information about it would be very appreciated!
>
> Thomas

Hi, Alex

I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
information source?

Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?

What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have wrapped
the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.

Thomas

"Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF Controls
> (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc) and OS
> primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
> Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is visible in
> the browser but has no immediate use
>
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi, guys!
> >
> > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> >
> > Thomas

As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented anywhere.
If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand what's in it.
I know, it sounds like a catch-22.

-Chris


"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, Alex
>
> I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> information source?
>
> Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
>
> What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have wrapped
> the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
>
> Thomas
>
> "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF
Controls
> > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc) and
OS
> > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
> > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is
visible in
> > the browser but has no immediate use
> >
> > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi, guys!
> > >
> > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > >
> > > Thomas

You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
really related to my present work.

Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?

Tom

"Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented anywhere.
> If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand what's in it.
> I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
>
> -Chris
>
>
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi, Alex
> >
> > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > information source?
> >
> > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> >
> > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have wrapped
> > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF
> Controls
> > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc) and
> OS
> > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
> > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is
> visible in
> > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > >
> > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi, guys!
> > > >
> > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > >
> > > > Thomas

See, what Chris and I are saying is that it is *not documented*. That means
someone has to reverse-engineer it and produce the documentation. The thing
is that nobody really needs it, which makes you a prime candidate to do it.
I'm also curious as of in what line of work you might find it useful

"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
> really related to my present work.
>
> Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?
>
> Tom
>
> "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message
news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented
anywhere.
> > If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand what's in
it.
> > I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> >
> > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Hi, Alex
> > >
> > > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > > information source?
> > >
> > > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> > >
> > > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have wrapped
> > > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF
> > Controls
> > > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc)
and
> > OS
> > > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
> > > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is
> > visible in
> > > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > > >
> > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Hi, guys!
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas

Hi Alex,

The other thing about APIs that are not documented is that they may be
subject to change without notice. I don't know if that is a real concern in
this situation, but it's something to think about.
--
Ginny Caughey
..Net Compact Framework MVP

"Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> See, what Chris and I are saying is that it is *not documented*. That
means
> someone has to reverse-engineer it and produce the documentation. The
thing
> is that nobody really needs it, which makes you a prime candidate to do
it.
> I'm also curious as of in what line of work you might find it useful
>
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
> > really related to my present work.
> >
> > Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message
> news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented
> anywhere.
> > > If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand what's
in
> it.
> > > I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi, Alex
> > > >
> > > > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > > > information source?
> > > >
> > > > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> > > >
> > > > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have
wrapped
> > > > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF
> > > Controls
> > > > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc)
> and
> > > OS
> > > > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI
(Display
> > > > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is
> > > visible in
> > > > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > > > >
> > > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Hi, guys!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas
>
>

My company want to develop some Control on this platform. At present,
System.Windows.Forms.Control in .netcf has not provided enough support
for Control's developing. So trouble is coming. I have to wrap AGL or
Win32 to realize some functions. But in futrue, AGL will be changed,
so I want to know more to avoid some of future hard work.

"Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<#(E-Mail Removed)>...
> See, what Chris and I are saying is that it is *not documented*. That means
> someone has to reverse-engineer it and produce the documentation. The thing
> is that nobody really needs it, which makes you a prime candidate to do it.
> I'm also curious as of in what line of work you might find it useful
>
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
> > really related to my present work.
> >
> > Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message
> news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented
> anywhere.
> > > If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand what's in
> it.
> > > I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
> > >
> > > -Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > Hi, Alex
> > > >
> > > > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > > > information source?
> > > >
> > > > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> > > >
> > > > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have wrapped
> > > > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> > > >
> > > > Thomas
> > > >
> > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between CF
> Controls
> > > > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font etc)
> and
> OS
> > > > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI (Display
> > > > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it is
> visible in
> > > > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > > > >
> > > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Hi, guys!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas

But the whole Control object is not extensible. The helper classes are
either private or return values of private types. There is nothing to be
gained by trying to implement your wrapper in the same way AGL is done.
Besides 80% of it are wrappers for either things like
ListView_GetSelectedCount or calls like GDI/User calls, such as GetWindow or
SetWindowText.

If you insist, use ildasm or Anakrino to peek inside
System.Windows.Forms.dll and see for yourself.

"Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> My company want to develop some Control on this platform. At present,
> System.Windows.Forms.Control in .netcf has not provided enough support
> for Control's developing. So trouble is coming. I have to wrap AGL or
> Win32 to realize some functions. But in futrue, AGL will be changed,
> so I want to know more to avoid some of future hard work.
>
> "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<#(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > See, what Chris and I are saying is that it is *not documented*. That
means
> > someone has to reverse-engineer it and produce the documentation. The
thing
> > is that nobody really needs it, which makes you a prime candidate to do
it.
> > I'm also curious as of in what line of work you might find it useful
> >
> > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
> > > really related to my present work.
> > >
> > > Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message
> > news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented
> > anywhere.
> > > > If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand
what's in
> > it.
> > > > I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
> > > >
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > Hi, Alex
> > > > >
> > > > > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > > > > information source?
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> > > > >
> > > > > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have
wrapped
> > > > > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thomas
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
> > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between
CF
> > Controls
> > > > > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font
etc)
> > and
> > OS
> > > > > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI
(Display
> > > > > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > > > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it
is
> > visible in
> > > > > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > Hi, guys!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thomas

Or better yet Salamander. But I have to agree with Alex that I think you're
on the wrong path and are destined to waste a lot of time. AGL is a tar pit
you'll have a hard time getting out of. If you want to create custom
controls and need the WinAPI, just P/Invoke the GDI calls directly.

--
Chris Tacke, eMVP
Co-Founder and Advisory Board Member
www.OpenNETCF.org
---
Windows CE Product Manager
Applied Data Systems
www.applieddata.net


"Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> But the whole Control object is not extensible. The helper classes are
> either private or return values of private types. There is nothing to be
> gained by trying to implement your wrapper in the same way AGL is done.
> Besides 80% of it are wrappers for either things like
> ListView_GetSelectedCount or calls like GDI/User calls, such as GetWindow
or
> SetWindowText.
>
> If you insist, use ildasm or Anakrino to peek inside
> System.Windows.Forms.dll and see for yourself.
>
> "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > My company want to develop some Control on this platform. At present,
> > System.Windows.Forms.Control in .netcf has not provided enough support
> > for Control's developing. So trouble is coming. I have to wrap AGL or
> > Win32 to realize some functions. But in futrue, AGL will be changed,
> > so I want to know more to avoid some of future hard work.
> >
> > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:<#(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > See, what Chris and I are saying is that it is *not documented*. That
> means
> > > someone has to reverse-engineer it and produce the documentation. The
> thing
> > > is that nobody really needs it, which makes you a prime candidate to
do
> it.
> > > I'm also curious as of in what line of work you might find it useful
> > >
> > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > You know, I also don't want to dig it out. But I have to for this is
> > > > really related to my present work.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone provide me any detailed information about it?
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Tacke, eMVP" <ctacke[at]Open_NET_CF[dot]org> wrote in message
> > > news:<uttNOL$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > As Alex alluded, it's internal plumbing and it's not documented
> > > anywhere.
> > > > > If you have need to use it, you'll both know it and understand
> what's in
> > > it.
> > > > > I know, it sounds like a catch-22.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > Hi, Alex
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I want to get a detailed introduction about it. Do you know any
> > > > > > information source?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is this native layer in "System.Windows.Forms.dll"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What relation is it between AGL and Win32? you know, AGL have
> wrapped
> > > > > > the windows Handle and this is really beyond me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Alex Feinman [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> > > news:<(E-Mail Removed)>...
> > > > > > > AGL is a native graphic layer used by CF as a plumbing between
> CF
> > > Controls
> > > > > > > (Form, Label etc) and graphic objects (Graphics, Brush, Font
> etc)
> > > and
> > > OS
> > > > > > > primitives such as User (Windows, Menus, Controls) and GDI
> (Display
> > > > > > > Contexts, Fonts, Bitmaps) objects.
> > > > > > > You are not supposed to use it directly. In VB.NET projects it
> is
> > > visible in
> > > > > > > the browser but has no immediate use
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Thomas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > > Hi, guys!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you know what is "AGL" on earth? its design or purpose.
> > > > > > > > Any information about it would be very appreciated!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thomas
>
>