Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
under the Host column all with the same Destination
address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
product but it just makes a list of these things, no
instructions on how to delete them.

Thanks.

Hi

Try Hoster and restore to "Microsoft original".

http://www.funkytoad.com/hoster.htm

It is also a good idea to remove all temporarily
junk before any spyware removal, CCleaner can be used.

www.ccleaner.com

--
plun


yelgnit4 formulated the question :
> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
> under the Host column all with the same Destination
> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
> instructions on how to delete them.
>
> Thanks.

Hi

More about this:

"the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs"

If you are running Spybots "teatimer" or maybe some
other real time protection you must disable this
protection before you can change your hosts file.

Running different programs with RTP is a mess and
MSAS is enough for RTP. Or uninstall MSAS and choose
another antispyware program with RTP.

You can use other antispyware programs for manual scannings.

My opinion is that Lavasofts Adaware, MSAS and CCleaner is enough
for mostly all PCs AND not forget a good updated antivirus program of
course !

TrendMicros Housecall is a good place for extra online checks.

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

--
plun

It happens that plun formulated :
> Hi
>
> Try Hoster and restore to "Microsoft original".
>
> http://www.funkytoad.com/hoster.htm
>
> It is also a good idea to remove all temporarily
> junk before any spyware removal, CCleaner can be used.
>
> www.ccleaner.com

Thanks plun. I'll try your suggestions. I do have adaware
and Norton Internet security and run them daily. Norton
has blocked several viruses. I ran the others hoping to
find something that fixes my pertpetual "hangs". I'll
post my results from your suggestion. Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi
>
>More about this:
>
>"the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs"
>
>If you are running Spybots "teatimer" or maybe some
>other real time protection you must disable this
>protection before you can change your hosts file.
>
>Running different programs with RTP is a mess and
>MSAS is enough for RTP. Or uninstall MSAS and choose
>another antispyware program with RTP.
>
>You can use other antispyware programs for manual
scannings.
>
>My opinion is that Lavasofts Adaware, MSAS and CCleaner
is enough
>for mostly all PCs AND not forget a good updated
antivirus program of
>course !
>
>TrendMicros Housecall is a good place for extra online
checks.
>
>http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
>
>--
>plun
>
>It happens that plun formulated :
>> Hi
>>
>> Try Hoster and restore to "Microsoft original".
>>
>> http://www.funkytoad.com/hoster.htm
>>
>> It is also a good idea to remove all temporarily
>> junk before any spyware removal, CCleaner can be used.
>>
>> www.ccleaner.com
>
>
>.
>

The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that have been added to
prevent them from re-directing your browser to another site. They, instead,
all get redirected to a "null" site on your own computer, 127.0.0.1. This
is a good thing, as it prevents surreptitious redirection.

If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that another spyware-blocking
program has added these there. The prime example is Spybot S&D, which adds
hundreds of files to the Hosts file.

You can examine your HOSTS file by going to C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc.
The hosts file has no extension, but can be opened with WordPad. My hosts
file, with the additions by Spybot S&D, is 52Kb. When I first examined it,
it had multiple entries of the same files from Spybot S&D, and was 412 Kb!.
Spybot adds text to the hosts file, telling you something like 'the
following files are added by Spybot S&D" (nice of them). I edited out all
but one copy of the file (after saving a copy of the original as back-up),
then saved the new file. Save it as a .txt file, then rename it without the
..txt and it will work fine.

The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than helpful. You WANT the
file to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block" the file in MSAS, it NO
LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave these files "un-blocked"
as they originally are: i.e. leave the file alone - it is a good, protective
thing!


"yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
> under the Host column all with the same Destination
> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
> instructions on how to delete them.
>
> Thanks.

Hi tobe

Malware can also place sites to this hosts file.

If you have hundreds of sites within hosts file it´s nearly impossible
to find these malware entries.

For normal users it´s much better to restore it to Microsoft original,
then let MSAS protect this file with one agent (built in).

It´s old fashion now with block files with MSAS, state of the art, real
time protection !

--
plun

tobe brought next idea :
> The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that have been added to prevent
> them from re-directing your browser to another site. They, instead, all get
> redirected to a "null" site on your own computer, 127.0.0.1. This is a good
> thing, as it prevents surreptitious redirection.
>
> If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that another spyware-blocking
> program has added these there. The prime example is Spybot S&D, which adds
> hundreds of files to the Hosts file.
>
> You can examine your HOSTS file by going to C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc.
> The hosts file has no extension, but can be opened with WordPad. My hosts
> file, with the additions by Spybot S&D, is 52Kb. When I first examined it,
> it had multiple entries of the same files from Spybot S&D, and was 412 Kb!.
> Spybot adds text to the hosts file, telling you something like 'the following
> files are added by Spybot S&D" (nice of them). I edited out all but one copy
> of the file (after saving a copy of the original as back-up), then saved the
> new file. Save it as a .txt file, then rename it without the .txt and it
> will work fine.
>
> The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than helpful. You WANT the file
> to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block" the file in MSAS, it NO
> LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave these files "un-blocked" as
> they originally are: i.e. leave the file alone - it is a good, protective
> thing!
>
>
> "yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
>> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
>> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
>> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
>> under the Host column all with the same Destination
>> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
>> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
>> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
>> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
>> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
>> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
>> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
>> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
>> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
>> instructions on how to delete them.
>>
>> Thanks.

Thanks for the info. I had already taken the advise of
the previous post and restored to Microsoft original. I
had over 8,200 entries! My system is extremly slow even
though I have half of my 40GB left. I have no virus that
I can find. But Microsoft Outlook and Word "hang" all the
time. I thought that this would speed up the machine. It
didn't so I'm now going to look for other possible
causes. I have removed all the scanners except Adaware,
Norton, Zonealarm and the MSAS. Hopefully it will keep
the host file to a manageable level.

>-----Original Message-----
>The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that have
been added to
>prevent them from re-directing your browser to another
site. They, instead,
>all get redirected to a "null" site on your own
computer, 127.0.0.1. This
>is a good thing, as it prevents surreptitious
redirection.
>
>If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that
another spyware-blocking
>program has added these there. The prime example is
Spybot S&D, which adds
>hundreds of files to the Hosts file.
>
>You can examine your HOSTS file by going to
C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc.
>The hosts file has no extension, but can be opened with
WordPad. My hosts
>file, with the additions by Spybot S&D, is 52Kb. When I
first examined it,
>it had multiple entries of the same files from Spybot
S&D, and was 412 Kb!.
>Spybot adds text to the hosts file, telling you
something like 'the
>following files are added by Spybot S&D" (nice of
them). I edited out all
>but one copy of the file (after saving a copy of the
original as back-up),
>then saved the new file. Save it as a .txt file, then
rename it without the
>..txt and it will work fine.
>
>The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than
helpful. You WANT the
>file to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block" the
file in MSAS, it NO
>LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave these
files "un-blocked"
>as they originally are: i.e. leave the file alone - it
is a good, protective
>thing!
>
>
>"yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message
>news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware
has
>> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and
how
>> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
>> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
>> under the Host column all with the same Destination
>> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked,
although
>> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non
MS)
>> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
>> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds
to
>> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll
have
>> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all
of
>> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
>> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
>> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
>> instructions on how to delete them.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
>.
>

Hi

Did you remove all temporarily junk with CCleaner ?

Also it´s maybe better to use this protocol and end up in
a HijackThis forum.

http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm

With HijackThis its easier to see whats wrong.

--
plun



yelgnit4 expressed precisely :
> Thanks for the info. I had already taken the advise of
> the previous post and restored to Microsoft original. I
> had over 8,200 entries! My system is extremly slow even
> though I have half of my 40GB left. I have no virus that
> I can find. But Microsoft Outlook and Word "hang" all the
> time. I thought that this would speed up the machine. It
> didn't so I'm now going to look for other possible
> causes. I have removed all the scanners except Adaware,
> Norton, Zonealarm and the MSAS. Hopefully it will keep
> the host file to a manageable level.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that have been added to
>> prevent them from re-directing your browser to another site. They,
>> instead, all get redirected to a "null" site on your own computer,
>> 127.0.0.1. This is a good thing, as it prevents surreptitious
>> redirection.
>>
>> If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that another spyware-blocking
>> program has added these there. The prime example is Spybot S&D, which adds
>> hundreds of files to the Hosts file.
>>
>> You can examine your HOSTS file by going to
>> C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc. The hosts file has no extension, but can
>> be opened with WordPad. My hosts file, with the additions by Spybot S&D,
>> is 52Kb. When I first examined it, it had multiple entries of the same
>> files from Spybot S&D, and was 412 Kb!. Spybot adds text to the hosts
>> file, telling you something like 'the following files are added by Spybot
>> S&D" (nice of them). I edited out all but one copy of the file (after
>> saving a copy of the original as back-up), then saved the new file. Save
>> it as a .txt file, then rename it without the ..txt and it will work fine.
>>
>> The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than helpful. You WANT the
>> file to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block" the file in MSAS, it
>> NO LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave these files
>> "un-blocked" as they originally are: i.e. leave the file alone - it is a
>> good, protective thing!
>>
>>
>> "yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
>>> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
>>> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
>>> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
>>> under the Host column all with the same Destination
>>> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
>>> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
>>> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
>>> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
>>> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
>>> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
>>> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
>>> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
>>> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
>>> instructions on how to delete them.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> .

Yes, did remove the temp junk with CCleaner. Did do the
HijackThis prior to my original post and there weren't
any of the O1 "Hijacks". What is the aumha.org used for?
Not sure if this is a cleaner or a hijack tracker.

Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi
>
>Did you remove all temporarily junk with CCleaner ?
>
>Also it´s maybe better to use this protocol and end up in
>a HijackThis forum.
>
>http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>
>With HijackThis its easier to see whats wrong.
>
>--
>plun
>
>
>
>yelgnit4 expressed precisely :
>> Thanks for the info. I had already taken the advise of
>> the previous post and restored to Microsoft original.
I
>> had over 8,200 entries! My system is extremly slow
even
>> though I have half of my 40GB left. I have no virus
that
>> I can find. But Microsoft Outlook and Word "hang" all
the
>> time. I thought that this would speed up the machine.
It
>> didn't so I'm now going to look for other possible
>> causes. I have removed all the scanners except
Adaware,
>> Norton, Zonealarm and the MSAS. Hopefully it will keep
>> the host file to a manageable level.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that
have been added to
>>> prevent them from re-directing your browser to
another site. They,
>>> instead, all get redirected to a "null" site on your
own computer,
>>> 127.0.0.1. This is a good thing, as it prevents
surreptitious
>>> redirection.
>>>
>>> If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that
another spyware-blocking
>>> program has added these there. The prime example is
Spybot S&D, which adds
>>> hundreds of files to the Hosts file.
>>>
>>> You can examine your HOSTS file by going to
>>> C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc. The hosts file has
no extension, but can
>>> be opened with WordPad. My hosts file, with the
additions by Spybot S&D,
>>> is 52Kb. When I first examined it, it had multiple
entries of the same
>>> files from Spybot S&D, and was 412 Kb!. Spybot adds
text to the hosts
>>> file, telling you something like 'the following
files are added by Spybot
>>> S&D" (nice of them). I edited out all but one copy
of the file (after
>>> saving a copy of the original as back-up), then
saved the new file. Save
>>> it as a .txt file, then rename it without the ..txt
and it will work fine.
>>>
>>> The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than
helpful. You WANT the
>>> file to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block"
the file in MSAS, it
>>> NO LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave
these files
>>> "un-blocked" as they originally are: i.e. leave the
file alone - it is a
>>> good, protective thing!
>>>
>>>
>>> "yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote in message
>>> news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> Mega problems on my computer - however MS
AntiSpyware has
>>>> been the most helpful, actually explaining things
and how
>>>> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
>>>> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
>>>> under the Host column all with the same Destination
>>>> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked,
although
>>>> non of these shows up on the hijack this program
(non MS)
>>>> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection
programs
>>>> I've run. The options to block these takes 20
seconds to
>>>> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll
have
>>>> to do - my question. Is there another way to block
all of
>>>> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host
is
>>>> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host
cleaner
>>>> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
>>>> instructions on how to delete them.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>
>
>.
>

Hi

Aumha.org is a great place with highly skilled "helpers"
for HijackThis log analyze.

About Aumha
http://www.aumha.org/about.htm

HijackThis is used all over world for spywareremovals.
In the beginning younger users got help from this program
but now we have a lot of forums dedicated to spyware removal
with Hijackthis. These new forums using all modern UIs, so called
board forums. Much better then this old fashion newsgroup, messed up
with replies above and below and no qouting.

More HijackThis forums:
http://www.merijn.org/forums.html

--
plun

yelgnit4 formulated on måndag :
> Yes, did remove the temp junk with CCleaner. Did do the
> HijackThis prior to my original post and there weren't
> any of the O1 "Hijacks". What is the aumha.org used for?
> Not sure if this is a cleaner or a hijack tracker.
>
> Thanks.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> Hi
>>
>> Did you remove all temporarily junk with CCleaner ?
>>
>> Also it´s maybe better to use this protocol and end up in
>> a HijackThis forum.
>>
>> http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
>>
>> With HijackThis its easier to see whats wrong.
>>
>> --
>> plun
>>
>>
>>
>> yelgnit4 expressed precisely :
>>> Thanks for the info. I had already taken the advise of
>>> the previous post and restored to Microsoft original. I
>>> had over 8,200 entries! My system is extremly slow even
>>> though I have half of my 40GB left. I have no virus that
>>> I can find. But Microsoft Outlook and Word "hang" all the
>>> time. I thought that this would speed up the machine. It
>>> didn't so I'm now going to look for other possible
>>> causes. I have removed all the scanners except Adaware,
>>> Norton, Zonealarm and the MSAS. Hopefully it will keep
>>> the host file to a manageable level.
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> The sites listed in your Hosts file are sites that have been added to
>>>> prevent them from re-directing your browser to another site. They,
>>>> instead, all get redirected to a "null" site on your own computer,
>>>> 127.0.0.1. This is a good thing, as it prevents surreptitious
>>>> redirection.
>>>>
>>>> If your HOSTS file is very long, it is likely that another
>>>> spyware-blocking program has added these there. The prime example is
>>>> Spybot S&D, which adds hundreds of files to the Hosts file.
>>>>
>>>> You can examine your HOSTS file by going to
>>>> C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc. The hosts file has no extension, but
>>>> can be opened with WordPad. My hosts file, with the additions by
>>>> Spybot S&D, is 52Kb. When I first examined it, it had multiple
>>>> entries of the same files from Spybot S&D, and was 412 Kb!. Spybot adds
>>>> text to the hosts file, telling you something like 'the following
>>>> files are added by Spybot S&D" (nice of them). I edited out all but
>>>> one copy of the file (after saving a copy of the original as back-up),
>>>> then saved the new file. Save it as a .txt file, then rename it
>>>> without the ..txt and it will work fine.
>>>>
>>>> The MSAS help files for HOSTS files are less than helpful. You WANT the
>>>> file to be re-directed to 127.0.0.1. If you "Block" the file in MSAS,
>>>> it NO LONGER re-directs to 127.0.0.1. Therefore, leave these files
>>>> "un-blocked" as they originally are: i.e. leave the file alone - it is
>>>> a good, protective thing!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "yelgnit4" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>> news:022201c5b68f$f3d9c140$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>> Mega problems on my computer - however MS AntiSpyware has
>>>>> been the most helpful, actually explaining things and how
>>>>> they work. My problem in the the Windows Host File,
>>>>> under Advanced Tools. I have hundreds of items listed
>>>>> under the Host column all with the same Destination
>>>>> address. From what I gather I've been hijacked, although
>>>>> non of these shows up on the hijack this program (non MS)
>>>>> or on the 7 other anti-spyware/virus detection programs
>>>>> I've run. The options to block these takes 20 seconds to
>>>>> deactivate. Multiply that by the hundreds that I'll have
>>>>> to do - my question. Is there another way to block all of
>>>>> these at once? The option to Permanently remove host is
>>>>> not available (its grayed out). I've tried host cleaner
>>>>> product but it just makes a list of these things, no
>>>>> instructions on how to delete them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>
>>
>> .